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Guidesu
04-14-2021, 01:24 PM
Staff ReportYour BYOND Key
SSGT_BR Date of Incident
April 14, 2021 Your Character Name?
Charlie 'Gamma' Epsillion Their BYOND Key
FortyPercent Approximate time and date of the incident
10:05 BRT/UTC-03:00 Which Staff Protocols (https://cm-ss13.com/forums/showthread.php?5-Staff-Ranks-Code-of-Conduct-and-Protocols) were broken
Enforcement of the rules Description of the incident
I was playing survivor on Kutjevo Refinery.
I was around with Lancey walking doing survs stuffs when i saw the lil monkeys around.
I well killed them because.
The character has IC paranoia about Xenos.
After that Forty dm'ed me asking why i killed the "small" even he was playing as Xeno.
I explained there was NO PLACE AT RULES at all saying about killing monkeys as survivors and that being punishable.

"Survivors have more leeway than marines with their mental stability due to the trauma they may have experienced during the xenomorph attack. They may be suffering PTSD, paranoia or similar conditions for roleplaying purposes. Survivors may NOT be hostile unless they have been spawned as hostile survivors (CLF)."

This was the ONLY place on the rules i found something about survivors.
And there's nothing at all on the survivor guide page which i was reading while playing.
https://cm-ss13.com/wiki/Survivor

And it's not even metagaming.
He said:
Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): You do not. You know people are hosts, not critters.

If you are surviving the colony for this whole long and CLEARY saw Xenos picking the critters/friends/family, why i would let the thing who killed all my friends reproduce?

Again there's no place at rules at all about this. Evidence
Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Still busy?

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Nah i died. So i will tell why i killed they its kinda simple

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Why i would as surv let monky live if they are free-caps and will feed the hive and i have IC knowlogy about that correct?

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Why i would as surv let monky live if they are free-caps and will feed the hive and i have IC knowlogy about that correct?

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): You do not. You know people are hosts, not critters.

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): For future reference, do NOT kill smalls. This is your one warning.

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): ooookay. I don't see any place on rules about killing critters as surv.. soo?

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): You've been told now.
(Funny i have told now but WHERE IS EXACTLY)

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Survivors have more leeway than marines with their mental stability due to the trauma they may have experienced during the xenomorph attack. They may be suffering PTSD, paranoia or similar conditions for roleplaying purposes. Survivors may NOT be hostile unless they have been spawned as hostile survivors (CLF). I have several IC reasons to be paranoid about ANYTHING could be host

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): And you are probably just mad because you are an crusher
(I was just angry at the moment, meh sorry about this)

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): If you disagree with my ruling, you can make a staff report on the forums. But you recived my ruling.
(Which i did)

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Yeah sure

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Here's the link: https://cm-ss13.com/forums/forms.php?do=form&fid=12

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Just to know. No notes right?

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): You got a note. Lemme grab it.

PM to FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Why...dude...honestly why...i was going to make my fucking pred WL and you note me this

Moderator PM from FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)) (?): Heavy Warning for Meta - Went around the map as survivor and killed all the smalls. by fortypercent (Moderator) on 2021-04-14 06:53:58

Funny thing is he did not said anytime while chatting it was metagming which is not.
AND WORST ITS AN HEAVY WARNING. How you would punish the accused
Just...
I don't want to punish anyone.
I just want my note removed and the survs rules updated about this.

Warfan1815
04-14-2021, 07:52 PM
will pull logs

Warfan1815
04-14-2021, 08:37 PM
SSGT_BR (Gudseui's true byond account) kills some monkies

[06:33:27]ATTACK: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion) shot *no key*/(unknown) with an additional buckshot in Kutjevo - Abandoned Construction (147,103,3).
[06:33:29]ATTACK: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion) shot *no key*/(unknown) with an additional buckshot in Kutjevo - Abandoned Construction (147,102,3).
X4

[06:33:52]SAY: Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion: Bad free caps (CKEY: SSGT_BR) (JOB: Survivor)

[06:34:13]ATTACK: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion) shot *no key*/(unknown) with an additional buckshot in Kutjevo - Abandoned Construction Interior (123,126,3).
X4


SSGT_BR's admin PM logs

[06:41:10]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[WARRIOR]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): Mind explaining why you are shooting smalls?

[06:41:23]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[WARRIOR]): busy

[06:43:27]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[)->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): Whenever you have time, then.



[06:51:21]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): Still busy?

[06:51:40]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/(Crusher (FA-374-L5)): Nah i died. So i will tell why i killed they its kinda simple

[06:52:17]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Why i would as surv let monky live if they are free-caps and will feed the hive and i have IC knowlogy about that correct?

[06:52:40]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): You do not. You know people are hosts, not critters.

[06:53:32]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): For future reference, do NOT kill smalls. This is your one warning.

[06:54:10]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: ooookay. I don't see any place on rules about killing critters as surv.. soo?

[06:54:39]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): You've been told now.

[06:54:52]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Nah theres nothing on the rules page about this pal

[06:55:20]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Neither on survivors guide page

[06:56:04]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): And you have been told now.

[06:56:12]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Dude WTF

[06:57:09]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Survivors have more leeway than marines with their mental stability due to the trauma they may have experienced during the xenomorph attack. They may be suffering PTSD, paranoia or similar conditions for roleplaying purposes. Survivors may NOT be hostile unless they have been spawned as hostile survivors (CLF). I have several IC reasons to be paranoid about ANYTHING could be host

[06:57:31]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: And you are probably just mad because you are an crusher

[06:57:38]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): If you disagree with my ruling, you can make a staff report on the forums. But you recived my ruling.

[06:57:47]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Yeah sure

[06:58:14]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): Here's the link: https://cm-ss13.com/forums/forms.php?do=form&fid=12

[06:59:50]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Just to know. No notes right?

[07:00:07]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): You got a note. Lemme grab it.

[07:00:28]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: Why...dude...honesly why...i was going to make my fucking pred WL and you note me this

[07:00:38]ADMIN: PM: FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]->SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion): Heavy Warning for Meta - Went around the map as survivor and killed all the smalls. by fortypercent (Moderator) on 2021-04-14 06:53:58

[07:00:50]ADMIN: PM: SSGT_BR/(Charlie 'Gamma' Epsilion)->FortyPercent/[CRUSHER]: ITS NOT EVEN META WTF

End Of Logs

Doctorprobe69
04-16-2021, 02:43 AM
It is an unwritten rule and has been around for a long time. Marines, Survs, etc, should not be killing small hosts (it is seen as meta-gaming and takes away future larva for Xenos heavily at roundstart/throughout the game). The note will stay for now as it's intended. I am open to removing it if another option or clarification is made. Resolved.