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pismorizzo
11-20-2021, 05:19 AM
Player ReportYour Byond ID?
pismorizzo

Date of Incident
November 19, 2021

Your Character Name?
Steven Colins

Accused Byond Key(if known):
Usnpeepoo

Accused Character Name
Klu'in Veraz

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
11:20 ish CST

What rule(s) were broken:
Rule 2, Rule 3 (Metagrudge)

Description of the incident:
During the LV round at 6:30 PST I was a surv and had gotten some blast nades, marines were dying to preds. Round was nearing a close or had already ended and I found a pred (Usnpeepoo) just sitting by engi, I walked off screen and threw the blast nade killing him instantly as he had no armor on. I C4'd his body cause I thought he was still alive and after round end posted a screenshot of me c4ing his body where Usnpeepoo responded. The next round I was surv again about 45 minutes in I tried to honorably duel a pred (no clue if this was Usnpeepoo or one of the other many preds that round) I only had 1 foot and did not expect to win, I of course died and was later revived. About 40 minutes later I had snuck away from the FOB siege and had been walking around colony and avoiding xenos when 2 preds walked up, Usnpeepoo said "your skull" and started attacking. I, being right near ETA entrance, had no plans to fire off a shotgun and get myself killed. I threw my guns down to try and show I was not hunting him and to try and get him to calm down which he ignored and proceeded to finish killing me and decap me in about 4 seconds. I thought this was very bad rp but I knew preds were allowed to do this. I ahelped and asked if that was bad or not when I then found out that this pred was also Usnpeepoo although I wouldn't piece that together till a bit later. This just seemed like really bad pred play at the time but now knowing it was also Usnpeepoo who seemed upset at me in the discord feels like pretty blatant metagrudging. I know he didn't break any honor code rules here but still this seems like it went against the spirit of pred to engage someone in a hunt in a very dangerous spot and declare intent to decap me off the bat after I had done nothing to wrong him that round.
I reliazed this was Usnpeepoo after dming Mymindisblank when I had just thought this was bad pred play.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
https://imgur.com/a/IyCvIic

Screenshot I had posted to the discord showing me C4 Usnpeepoo's body.

What resolution are you seeking?
I am honestly not sure I am just making this cause it felt really bad to get decapped for no reason with no warning for what I assume was because I had killed him the last round. Just a slap on the wrist or a warning, I don't feel that strongly about this but I was told to make this so here I am.

Usnpeepoo
11-20-2021, 06:10 AM
Bro I don't metagrudge anybody I didn't even realize u were the guy who killed me last round until i was beheading you because all i checked for was whether you had weapons or not (which you did) so i said something to indicate that I was about to do something very bad to you. I really didn't care that i died to you the previous round and I've never been pissed off at a guy enough to hunt them down after I die as a xeno or marine.

Other point on me beheading you is that you threw your guns on the floor when you (as a survivor) could've easily fought back and decided to not do so, and you were practically the only person I could get a good fight for since i spawned in as a pred. I wasn't even pissed on discord either, and me saying "your skull" was a response to you saying "what's cracking" when I showed up. Basically, i get that you didnt like me beheading you and its definitely not something i always do, mostly when there really isnt anything to hunt and its a dry pred round for me that i decide to spice things and actually perma people. But I really didn't have any intention to metagrudge you, nor have I considered it for any other player in CM.

ito726
11-22-2021, 08:02 PM
All the interactions between the 2, in the 2 rounds mentioned. Allegedly there is some on discord too, but I believe those are public to everyone. Ahelp was not included as there is nothing of interest in it, however, Ugnip55 was the mod who handled it.

The survivor killing the pred with a nade, seeming an ssd one.
2021/11/19: [21:31:43]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) punched *no key*/(Mark 'Expendable' Poley) in the East Central Jungle (97,30,3).
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) blew up Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) with a M12 blast grenade in the East Central Jungle (98,30,3).
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) blew up Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) with a M12 blast grenade in the East Central Jungle (99,29,3).
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) blew up Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) with a M12 blast grenade in the East Central Jungle (99,29,3).
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) was harmed by explosion in East Central Jungle caused by M12 blast grenade at (98,30,3)
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) was harmed by explosion in East Central Jungle caused by M12 blast grenade at (99,29,3)
2021/11/19: [21:32:06]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) was harmed by explosion in East Central Jungle caused by M12 blast grenade at (99,29,3)
2021/11/19: [21:32:14]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Got em. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:15]ADMIN: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins)(?) planted plastic explosives on Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz)(?) with 10 second fuse
2021/11/19: [21:32:15]GAME: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) planted plastic explosives on Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) with 10 second fuse
2021/11/19: [21:32:17]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: All me. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:21]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Gottem. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:23]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: All me. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:40]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : dont ever have byond crash in caves at 8 pm
2021/11/19: [21:32:42]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : worst mistake of my life
2021/11/19: [21:32:43]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: The trick is. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:48]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: You prime the nade. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:51]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Off screen. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:32:52]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : i crashed for 40 seconds bro
2021/11/19: [21:32:53]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : 40 seconds
2021/11/19: [21:33:01]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Yeah now he is muish. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:04]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: I kileld the rped. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:08]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: C4. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:08]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Gibbed his ass. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:15]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Gibbed him. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:17]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: C4. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:21]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Trick is blast nade. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [21:33:29]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Well now he is mush. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)


Duel with another pred, just the duel, the medical care and everything else was left out.
2021/11/19: [22:24:25]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) shot /(A'kei Teer) with a heavy pistol bullet in the Filtration Plant (112,78,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:27]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) shot /(A'kei Teer) with a heavy pistol bullet in the Filtration Plant (115,78,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:32]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Filtration Plant (114,77,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:33]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Filtration Plant (116,77,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:37]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) shot /(A'kei Teer) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the Southern Colony Grounds (110,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:38]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (110,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:40]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:41]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:41]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) shot /(A'kei Teer) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the Southern Colony Grounds (110,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:42]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:43]ATTACK: Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) shot /(A'kei Teer) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the Southern Colony Grounds (110,80,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:44]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:45]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) attacked Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) with clan sword (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).
2021/11/19: [22:24:47]ATTACK: /(A'kei Teer) grabbed Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (109,79,3).



The 'your skull' is clearly a joke on what the survivor said, rather than an out-of-context threat or declaration of intention to perma them. Granted they would still be killed and/or hunted, but the line has a clear IC reason for it.
2021/11/19: [23:03:24]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Oh. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:28]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Whats crackin. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:31]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: 2. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:34]SAY: Yautja Translator/usnpeepoo : your skull
2021/11/19: [23:03:38]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: For what. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:39]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) punched Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:41]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:41]SAY: Steven Colins [1]: Ow. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:42]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) punched Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:44]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:45]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) punched Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:47]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:48]SAY: Unknown (as Steven Colins) [1]: I ajve no weapon. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:49]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) punched Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:50]SAY: Unknown (as Steven Colins) [1]: Just rude. (CKEY: Pismorizzo) (JOB: Survivor)
2021/11/19: [23:03:52]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:53]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:54]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:55]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) skewered Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:57]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:03:58]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) skewered Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:04:00]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) busted Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (98,74,3).
2021/11/19: [23:04:02]ATTACK: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) grabbed Pismorizzo/(Steven Colins) in the Southern Colony Grounds (97,75,3).
2021/11/19: [23:04:05]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : ok
2021/11/19: [23:04:10]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : thats really cool
2021/11/19: [23:06:42]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : fuckin just walkin around colony when a pred says your skull
2021/11/19: [23:06:50]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : kills me as I refuse to fight back and ecaps me
2021/11/19: [23:10:41]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : I was just sneaking around the colony
2021/11/19: [23:10:45]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : it said your head
2021/11/19: [23:10:50]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : and decapped me as I refused to fight back
2021/11/19: [23:11:25]SAY: Ghost/Pismorizzo : I have killed many preds I aint new just never ever had on walk up and delcare it was about to perma kill me


A few other such declarations of the pred letting people they are about to be hunted in the round. These are all of other people, not the survivor.
2021/11/19: [23:17:45]EMOTE: Unknown/Usnpeepoo : Unknown puts their finger and slits it around their throat
2021/11/19: [23:17:49]EMOTE: Unknown/Usnpeepoo : Unknown points to the prey
2021/11/19: [23:31:15]INTERACT: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) has marked /(Lurker (TI-74)) for the Hunt in the Southwestern Caves (23,100,3).
2021/11/19: [23:35:16]INTERACT: Usnpeepoo/(Klu'in Veraz) has marked /(Mature Runner (TI-74)) for the Hunt in the Cargo Landing Pad (28,100,3).

The preds comments on the round and a discussion with some ghosts and who they hunt.
2021/11/19: [23:45:51]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : borin ass round
2021/11/19: [23:46:07]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : wow LOL
2021/11/19: [23:46:11]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : ugnip rlly is the only fucking mod on
2021/11/19: [23:46:32]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : are u just handling all the ahelps rn
2021/11/19: [23:46:44]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : or were u rlly tryna get preds to have less HC for this round


2021/11/19: [23:51:07]SAY: Ghost/p1 : this crusher is MAD
2021/11/19: [23:51:10]SAY: Ghost/p1 : jesus
2021/11/19: [23:51:52]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : crusher is playing against baldies
2021/11/19: [23:52:05]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : yeah so robust
2021/11/19: [23:52:08]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : he just killed some alpha pvt
2021/11/19: [23:52:15]SAY: Ghost/p2 : cope
2021/11/19: [23:52:26]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : what am i coping for? lol
2021/11/19: [23:52:36]SAY: Ghost/p2 : you guys are killin baldmos too
2021/11/19: [23:52:47]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : not rlly true
2021/11/19: [23:52:53]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : only kill baldies who shoot at me
2021/11/19: [23:53:00]SAY: Ghost/p1 : why is the crusher so upset with the preds?
2021/11/19: [23:53:00]SAY: Ghost/p2 : oh boo hoo
2021/11/19: [23:53:08]SAY: Ghost/p2 : it's a war zone big fella
2021/11/19: [23:53:33]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : ok
2021/11/19: [23:53:59]SAY: Ghost/p2 : i mean unless he was like chasing you across the map why bother
2021/11/19: [23:54:26]SAY: Ghost/Usnpeepoo : im gonna go play drg
2021/11/19: [23:54:40]SAY: Ghost/p3 : oh no, i got killed by a creature which is and always will be hostile to me, even if sometimes they dont kill me outright.

pismorizzo
11-23-2021, 12:09 AM
Oh that makes more sense in response to the 'What's crackin'. Whats crackin is just an automatic thing I say as a hello, so to me it doesn't even register that I am saying that. From my perspective I had said hello then he said 'your skull'. Makes more sense in context. Feel free to close this seeing as that basically clears up my idea that he had went out of his way to hunt and then declared his intent to decap me.

ThesoldierLLJK
12-03-2021, 02:31 PM
After reviewing this, there are no rule violations.