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    MVP777(?) - Rule 4

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    Kryth

    Date of Incident
    August 16, 2022

    Your Character Name?
    Elder Burrower (NPC-230)

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    MVP777(?)

    Accused Character Name
    Fledgling Facehugger

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    4:30 AM CST

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 4

    Description of the incident:
    I was a burrower, i got hit with incendiary and was burning

    I hid behind a resin door, close it, facehugger leads a marine towards me and opens 2 doors to expose me

    The facehugger died moments before I did.

    Video should be proof enough

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    What resolution are you seeking?
    my opinion wont really matter here, I would have have just ahelped this but no staff was on at the time

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    Forgot to add, mod got on later in the round but had other ahelps to deal with. Told me to create the PR since it needed more investigation

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    I didn't lead a marine towards you.

    You were on fire, which the marines caused and knew, and they chased after you to finish you off before you could resist it away.

    As you can see in the video I opened the 1st door and ran up until it opened to avoid getting shot and killed by the marine that was chasing the flaming Burrower as a Facehugger is extremely fragile with 35 health and that's only if resting on weeds so one bullet and I'm dead. 200-300 ping and panicking resulted in me overshooting by a tile which opened the 2nd door below the now open 1st door that I meant to go through originally.

    I went up 1 tile and went through the 1st door I opened as that was my original goal and clicking like hell to close the 2nd door to prevent you from getting shot while going through the 1st door which obviously failed. Me standing to the left of both of the doors until I was shot and killed was also me fervently clicking to try and close the doors which also failed.

    I felt like crap and apologized immediately after we both died and told you my Ckey of my own volition when you said that you had no way of finding it out so you could adminhelp/PR me.

    My screw-up got you killed and I owed up to it in deadchat instead of just logging out immediately after without saying a word, or respawning as a Facehugger and trying lead marines to other vulnerable Aliens.

    I don't play Space Station 13 to grief as I loathe screwing over other players for the sake of it and I do not deliberately or intentionally betray my team for the sake of doing it as it's a serious dick move not to mention against the rules itself. Double more so considering it's Colonial Marines and respawning as an alien can take a significant amount of time.

    Did my attempt to try and fail to close the doors ultimately result in you dying much more quickly? Yes.

    Was it deliberately and intentionally done for the sole sake of screwing you over because 'lol funneh' and intentional griefing? No.

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    2022/08/16: [09:43:14]ATTACK: Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) slashed /(Sergey Petrenko)
    2022/08/16: [09:43:46]ATTACK: Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) grabbed /(Sergey Petrenko) in the South Western Caves (48,111,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:43:49]ATTACK: Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) slashed /(Sergey Petrenko)
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an incendiary slug in the South Western Caves (46,109,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) hisses.
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an additional buckshot in the South Western Caves (46,109,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an additional buckshot in the South Western Caves (46,109,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an additional buckshot in the South Western Caves (46,109,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) hisses.
    2022/08/16: [09:44:02]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with a buckshot shell in the South Western Caves (46,109,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:04]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) needs help!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:06]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:08]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) needs help!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:10]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) needs help!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:12]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:12]SAY: Elder Burrower (NPC-230): Why (CKEY: Kryth)
    2022/08/16: [09:44:12]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Mvp777/(Fledgling Facehugger) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (36,113,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:14]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (33,113,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:14]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (32,113,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:14]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:14]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) roars!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:14]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (32,113,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:15]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : FUCK
    2022/08/16: [09:44:15]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (32,111,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:16]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (32,110,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:16]EMOTE: Elder Burrower (NPC-230)/Kryth : The Elder Burrower (NPC-230) needs help!
    2022/08/16: [09:44:20]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : BOILER I AM SO SORRY
    2022/08/16: [09:44:24]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (30,108,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:24]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (30,108,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:24]ATTACK: /(Sergey Petrenko) shot Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)) with an armor-piercing rifle bullet in the South Western Caves (30,108,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:44:25]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : BOILER I AM SO SORRY
    2022/08/16: [09:44:32]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : I SCREWED THE FUCKING POOCH FUCK
    2022/08/16: [09:44:48]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : That was NOT intentional AT ALL. I feel like a total tool.
    2022/08/16: [09:45:07]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : i dont even know
    2022/08/16: [09:45:09]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : who this player is
    2022/08/16: [09:45:13]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : so i cant even ahelp it
    2022/08/16: [09:45:18]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : Mvp777.
    2022/08/16: [09:45:23]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : I admit to my fuck up and it was not intentional.
    2022/08/16: [09:46:11]ADMIN: Ticket #11: Kryth/(Elder Burrower (NPC-230)): Theres a facehugger that just died recently, they had no tag so idk who it was, but they opened up a resin door to expose me to marines This literally does not feel like an accident, he opened two doors
    2022/08/16: [09:46:35]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : theres no staff
    2022/08/16: [09:46:36]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : okay
    2022/08/16: [09:46:39]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : my ahelp is going on deafears
    2022/08/16: [09:46:56]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : I panicked like a shit and got the burrower killed.
    2022/08/16: [09:47:06]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : yep
    2022/08/16: [09:47:07]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : no staff
    2022/08/16: [09:47:09]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : just gonna make a PR
    2022/08/16: [09:47:30]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : facehugger opened doors for marines to expose me while i was resisting on fire behind doors
    2022/08/16: [09:47:44]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : Failing to mention that I was trying to run away and close the door as well.
    2022/08/16: [09:47:46]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : they opened
    2022/08/16: [09:47:48]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : 2 fucking doors
    2022/08/16: [09:48:05]SAY: Ghost/Kryth : i have this shit recorded
    2022/08/16: [09:48:14]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : You don't hear me denying it, dude.
    2022/08/16: [09:49:31]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : My thought process was 'shit shit shit run run run open door wrong door close close it fUCK' dead.
    2022/08/16: [09:51:07]ATTACK: /(Gustavo 'Thumb' Sybila) shot Kryth/(Larva (51)) with a rifle bullet in the Western Caves (18,159,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:51:07]ATTACK: /(Larry Gunter) shot Kryth/(Larva (51)) with an armor-piercing smartgun bullet in the Western Caves (19,159,3).
    2022/08/16: [09:51:18]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : If I really intended to fuck you over Burrower I would have never given my ckey.
    2022/08/16: [09:51:26]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : I would have just logged afterwards.

    Left out the ahelp, as the only thing relevant not really incuded in the PR is me telling them id like do to more logs and to hear from the hugger player.
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    I was a CM moderator a few years back, so I have a good idea on how log generation works. If I truly wanted to deliberately grief you I would have ran immediately after opening the doors instead of standing there and trying to close the doors until I got shot and killed.

    If I did run away and say, de-spawned myself via egg-morpher or died at a later date the lack of combat logs, active staff at the time and the fact that Facehuggers do not have a number(356 ect)attached would have made it extremely difficult if not impossible to track down my Ckey and report me.

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    If I did do it deliberately(which means I would have ran away to avoid getting shot, ergo avoiding generating combat logs which includes my Ckey)

    Then even if every Fledgling Facehugger player in the match was PM'd and asked about this incident all I would have to do is deny having done if I was PM'd and that would that and I would get away with it due to the points mentioned above.

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    Helping scarlet out, and we've reviewed this. This is similar to a friendly fire incident for marines, and based on everything posted here, we do not believe MVP was trying to grief you. We believe this was a ingame accident, he apologized for it.
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