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    Unknown - Yautja honor code

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    troutyoghurt

    Date of Incident
    August 22, 2022

    Your Character Name?
    Randy Schrader

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    Unknown

    Accused Character Name
    Unknown pred player

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    12:20

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Yautja honor code

    Description of the incident:
    A group of us (marines) walked through ETA research labs (Big red) and out into western caves following a ping as we were chasing down the last xenos. LCpl Lawrence Rhinehard and PFC Marshall K. Miller were among some of the people present.

    The ping turned out to be a pred and I called out to the others referring to it as a "Jamaican". The pred then started attacking me and PFC Marshall K. Miller seemingly unprovoked. I shouted that it was hostile over comms and tried to walk away and hide using the snipe ghillie armor camouflage ability, but it just kept attacking me until I died. I did not fire a single bullet during the whole encounter, nor did I punch it, shove it, point to it or even try to speak to it before it attacked me. Miller however started firing back after it attacked me and him. Some other marines also started firing on it

    The pred then dragged my corpse around the caves for some time before dumping it in a cave near LZ2 where a medic found and revived me.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    https://puu.sh/Jhrxx/2634ff945c.PNG
    https://puu.sh/JhrxC/bce803cfe4.PNG
    https://puu.sh/JhrxE/a44ed1e1a8.PNG

    Command Announcement

    MAKE YOUR WAY TO SE CAVES, CLEAR... EVERY ROCK.

    Signed by,
    Captain Joe Gage
    Marshall K. Miller starts climbing onto the window frame!

    The resin door collapses from the lack of support.
    PFC Marshall K. Miller says, "West"
    You put the M2132 machete into the H5 pattern M2132 machete scabbard.
    Lawrence Rhinehart points to the floor
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart says, "Motion"
    You grab M42A scoped rifle with both hands.
    Lurker (BR-284-U8) is hit by the high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the right foot!
    x3

    That's Lurker (BR-284-U8).
    A beefy, fast alien with sharp claws.
    It is DEAD. Kicked the bucket. Off to that great hive in the sky.
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart says, "Not tjat"
    LCpl Randy Schrader says, "Hmm"
    Lawrence Rhinehart points to the floor
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart says, "There"
    You go prone, and begins adjusting your ghillie suit.
    ALMAYER DEFCON LEVEL INCREASED

    THREAT ASSESSMENT LEVEL INCREASED TO LEVEL 2.

    LEVEL 2 assets have been authorised to handle the situation.
    You peer through the scope of the M42A scoped rifle (Wielded).
    The M42A scoped rifle (Wielded) does not have any usable underbarrel attachments!
    Lawrence Rhinehart points to the floor
    You will now use Aimed Shot with middle-click.

    LCpl Randy Schrader says, "Jamaican"
    Your camouflage fails!
    You are now carrying M42A scoped rifle with one hand.
    You will no longer use Aimed Shot with middle-click.
    You look up from scope of the M42A scoped rifle (Wielded).
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart says, "Oh"
    PFC Marshall K. Miller says, "Oh damn"
    Randy Schrader has been sliced in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    Your chest hurts badly.
    LCpl Randy Schrader says, "The fuck"
    Cara 'Cutie' Parker peers through the the binoculars.
    Marshall K. Miller has been torn in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    Marshall K. Miller has been sliced in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Marshall K. Miller!
    PFC Marshall K. Miller screams!
    Cara 'Cutie' Parker looks up from the binoculars.
    2ndLt Virtue 'Vektor' Ganymede [Charlie (DP)] says, "Normandy on ground. Will cycle back up in 5"
    Marshall K. Miller has been diced in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    Marshall K. Miller fires the MOU53 break action shotgun point blank at Unknown!
    You grab M42A scoped rifle with both hands.

    You go prone, and begins adjusting your ghillie suit.
    2ndLt Adam Rivers [Charlie (IO)] says, "A."
    LCpl Randy Schrader yells, "Jamaican hostile!!"
    LCpl Randy Schrader [Charlie (Spc)] yells, "Jamaican hostile!!"
    Sgt Boris Vladifslov [Charlie (SL)] says, "QUEEN"
    You will now use Aimed Shot with middle-click.
    LCpl Randy Schrader screams!
    Randy Schrader has been stabbed in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    Something feels like it shattered in your chest!
    You peer through the scope of the M42A scoped rifle (Wielded).
    The M42A scoped rifle (Wielded) does not have any usable underbarrel attachments!
    You are now carrying M42A scoped rifle with one hand.
    You will no longer use Aimed Shot with middle-click.
    You look up from scope of the M42A scoped rifle (Wielded).
    LCpl Randy Schrader screams!
    Randy Schrader has been slashed in the chest with clan sword by Unknown!
    Your camouflage fails!
    Command Announcement

    Fight is in SE caves. Lots of fortifications including sticky resin.

    CLear WALLS and WEEDS. QUEEN!

    Signed by,
    Second Lieutenant J.D. Bishop
    LCpl Tim Harley [Charlie (ComTech)] says, "DONT FLAME THE DAMN PUSH YOU CUNTS"
    Randy Schrader has been torn in the chest with wrist blades by Unknown!
    OH GOD! Your chest is hurting terribly!
    Lawrence Rhinehart mans the M2C Heavy Machinegun.
    LCpl Randy Schrader screams!
    Randy Schrader has been sliced in the chest with wrist blades by Unknown!
    Slater Perris talks into the marine charlie radio headset
    PFC Slater Perris [Charlie (RFN)] says, "Jamaican killing people"
    LCpl Tim Harley [Charlie (ComTech)] says, "EXTINGUISH NOW"
    LCpl Randy Schrader says, "The fuck"
    Unknown is hit by the heavy machinegun bullet in the chest!
    x2

    Lawrence Rhinehart lets go of the M2C Heavy Machinegun.
    Unknown's armor deflects the heavy machinegun bullet!
    Unknown is hit by the heavy machinegun bullet in the groin!
    Lawrence Rhinehart has been sliced in the chest with wrist blades by Unknown!
    ... You can almost hear someone talking ...

    Your source of light shorts out.
    DEAD: S'kra K'wii (F) says, "You just kept spam shoving?"
    DEAD: Prime Praetorian (MA-299-G3) (F) says, "i saw them nading their own push"
    You hear a nasty ripping noise, as if flesh is being torn apart.
    Randy Schrader has died to wrist blades at the Wey-Yu Research Lab Caves from Unknown
    DEAD: Tim 'Caz' Tilton (F) says, "DONT TUNNEL"
    That's a cave.
    x3

    It is underground. The cavern roof lies above. Can probably stop most ordnance.
    x3

    PFC Slater Perris exclaims, "Medic!"
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart shouts an inspiring cry!
    LCpl Lawrence Rhinehart screams!
    x2

    You hear a sickening crack!

    What resolution are you seeking?
    I've only seen this kind of unprovoked attack from preds happen a few times before, but never to me. In this case perhaps it was just a misunderstanding on their part, but in the moment it just came off as an attempt to grief since the pred just seemed to be attacking people indiscriminately.

    Maybe there is something in the Yautja honor code that I don't understand, but if you can just kill anyone for no apparent reason then what's the point of the honor code?

    I'm not seeking any punishment, but if the pred player did break the honor code someone should probably at least talk to the player in question.

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    CM-SS13 Host ThesoldierLLJK's Avatar
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    Are you aware that predators are side antagonists and if you are at the health conditions and considered worthy/huntable prey that they can attack you at will regardless if you have roleplayed with them or not? They have the option to roleplay, but they are not required if you are considered huntable/worthy prey, and can attack you.

    Before we have a staff member pull logs, I just want to verify this.
    Last edited by ThesoldierLLJK; 08-22-2022 at 07:53 PM.
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    https://youtu.be/eIi_W5e8MNY

    Note: Un-huntable is only the case if they are not actively attacking you, have not attacked you in the recent past or are not otherwise dishonorable.
    Un-huntable:
    Non/Indirect Combatants
    Working medic, synth, almayer ship crew
    Drone castes, boilers
    Any Xeno or Human defending a key location. (Hive, LZ, FOB etc.)
    Injured below 75% huntables. (splints excluded, will appear with a yellow healthbar)
    Faction Command Structure
    CO, XO, SO
    Queen
    Honoured

    You were worthy this was not an honour code break. Please watch my POV in the linked vid
    Last edited by Joe Lampost; 08-22-2022 at 08:07 PM.
    Now I just feel sorry for the Pred council. Those poor people only get the nut jobs...

    HTB

    Nan'ku K'wii clan leader of the poorest pred clan in the game

    Joe 'Death Dealer' Smith

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    CM-SS13 Host ThesoldierLLJK's Avatar
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    I've reviewed the video, there was no honorcode breaks.

    This is a friendly PSA:
    Predators are SIDE Antagonists and are not required to roleplay, if you meet the requirements of huntable prey, you can be attacked at any time. Moreover, humans are not required to roleplay with predators, and can attack them at any time. We've had predators and marines roleplay together only for a SADAR to sneak up on one an blow it to smitherines.
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