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    V3nturis - Ban Appeal (Discord Ban)

    Ban Appeal
    Byond ID?
    V3nturis
    Do you confirm you have read the Appeal Rules and that this appeal conforms to them?
    Yes
    Character Name?
    Cooter Davenport
    What is your discord tag? (If appealing a discord ban)
    V3nturis#2881
    Type of Ban?
    Discord Ban
    What is your Bancode?
    Unknown No Code
    If jobban, which job are you appealing?
    N/A
    Admin who banned you (if known)
    Katie - Approved by Lunarflu
    Total Ban Duration
    Permanent
    Remaining Duration
    N/A Appealable in 30 Days After Previous Appeal
    What other servers do you play on?
    N/A
    Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?
    No
    Do you play using a Virtual Machine?
    No
    Is your copy of Windows legitimate?
    Yes
    Do you connect using a VPN? If so, which provider?
    No
    Reason for Ban
    Stated "There's a lot of Groomers in LRC today"

    There was detailed, drawn put conversation in the admin feedback channel regarding that statement and the reason I feel such.
    Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc). If you were in the wrong, explain what you did that was wrong, and describe how you have or will improve your behavior.
    To be succinct and TLDR in the onset. I was advised that my previous ban appeal was cordial, and not low effort, but my personal belief that I was not wrong is reason for denial of an unban.

    The denial, as expressed by TheSoldier and others was, as quoted from a follow up staff report;

    "For the record, Moonshanks and the discord staff/volunteers discussed your ban appeal, and the overall opinion of everyone was your appeal was "I did nothing wrong, but I won't do it again." This isn't one person decided to deny your appeal for your information, managers make the final decision in all ban appeals, but they're still discussed internally. In this case input is taken from discord staff/volunteers, as opposed to a game related ban which would be admins."

    The details from the staff report aren't necessarily important. There was an oddity with my report that appeared nefarious at first, but upon explanation made sense.

    Regardless, at this time my understanding is that in order to be "unbanned" from discord I have to state that I myself believe I did something wrong. My personal feeling on the matter regarding posting cropped porn, horny posting, or otherwise have not changed. Truthfully, my desire to return is so that I may actually see whats going on with development, the rules that are changed or amended relatively often, and other items out of simple nuance.

    The forums are, by and far, rather unused. Rule clarifications, information, and otherwise is not...routinely updated.

    I cannot in good faith lie simply to be unbanned. The soldiers comment is entirely accurate. I did not believe then, nor do I believe now, that I did something wrong.

    I admittedly misunderstood how personal persons that enjoy posting cropped porn and commit general horny posting take to statements that they are performing acts that are indicative of grooming behavior. Perhaps it's the significant difference in personal habits, upbringing, or otherwise, but it's rather difficult for me to consider intentionally exposing 13 year olds to cropped pornographic materials as being a meme or joke. I don't recall as it's been some time now, but I don't believe there are any 18 or adult content warning pop-ups for those areas. There is, what I feel, intentional disregard for the lengthy conversation in admin feedback, which gave significant clarity to the singular, almost cherry picked, statement in LRC.

    The only fault, if any, I can acknowledge in earnest is not adequately gauging the willingness of staff to engage in conversation and discourse. Had I been aware prior to this event that open, earnest conversation and statements were not acceptable I would have simply, and quietly, muted the folks posting cropped porn and horny posting.

    This is neither my house, or fight to fight. As stated before, admittedly, I have no interest or intent in addressing further observations of cropped porn, or horny posting in areas that are open to 13 year olds.

    In the same manner, I also cannot agree what i did was wrong, or that performing those actions are not indicative of grooming behavior. If possible, I would like to know if I additional appeals are a misuse of community staff time. I have acknowledged in multiple locations, discord DMs, and here on the forums, that I will not accuse, insinuate, or otherwise express my opinions on posting cropped pornographic material and horny posting on discord or other CM controlled media. I'd rather be earnest, than simply lie and pretend just so I can be unbanned.

    Regards,
    V3nturis
    Do you understand that making low-effort appeals (short/does not address the issue/shitposts) may lead to immediate denial and/or other types of consequences?
    Yes

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    After a detailed discussion we have decided to ACCEPT this appeal. We feel that you have shown dedication, and after discussions in DMs, understanding that it was not you reporting what you felt was immorale activity was wrong, but how you reported it.

    Thank you for your persistence and patience.
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