Dutch Dozen: Wasted potential? Discussion.

[Steelpoint]

What does Dutch's Dozen conflict with? I can't recall that term ever being used outside of CM.

Also in what hell does Iron Bears reach copyright issues but the USCM or Xenomorphs don't?

[Cimo]

everyone seems to think Dutch's Dozen were regular humans like other ERTs and marines, no they werent, last time I saw them they were mechanically stronger/tankier than normal humans, they were faster too (as fast as a ravager), the last time I played one during Sulaco times, the Supermatter engine exploded taking the whole east side of the ship, I was in the evac area as a Dutch Dozen, I legit sat there suffocating for about 10mins before finally dying, a regular marine would take 3 mins max considering I had taken some explosion damage too, so yeah they were stronk af, and some of their gear, like the Ol Painless, wasnt that bad too.

[spookydonut]

the uscm logo is a copyright issue but the names uscm and xenomorph are sufficiently generic to not be an issue.

[TheDexFiles]

iron bears were removed/renamed to UPP due to copyright issues.

dutchs dozen are not lore friendly and are also a copyright issue, if memory serves.

The UPP are also apart of the Aliens universe.......

[MasterShakeEZ]

What does Dutch's Dozen conflict with? I can't recall that term ever being used outside of CM.

Also in what hell does Iron Bears reach copyright issues but the USCM or Xenomorphs don't?

Xenomorphs aren't what aliens are actually called they have some weird code name but they aren't called Xenomorphs

[Steelpoint]

Their official technical designation is Xenomorph XX121.

My point stands.

Xenomorphs are infinitely more recognisable than the damn UPP let alone Dutches Dozen. At least the UPP appeared in the aborted Alien 3 script, I've never heard of the DD outside of old CM.

[CABAL]

https://www.octulipfestival.com/port...m/dutch-dozen/

Real Dutch Dozen. Infinitely better than CM version... Hehe

[spookydonut]

Dutch's Dozen is the team of soldiers from the first predator movie, UPP is actually non-canon part of the aliens universe which makes it okay to use them.

Iron Bears are from AVP2 video game and aren't okay to use.

[Heckenshutze]

We can always re-work and edit the DD/Iron Bears in a way we can use them like we changed WY to just �The Company�, The lore thing argument can be rolled over with the good old fact we have our own lore and with the copyright argument we can do what we did with all the copyrighted shit: change names, logos and visuals.

So, why instead of giving excuses we just do it? I don�t know why so much trouble for a game played on a 2D spaceman simulator

[TheDexFiles]

So, why instead of giving excuses we just do it? I don�t know why so much trouble for a game played on a 2D spaceman simulator

They own they the property rights and enforce their copyright. I mean Disney did shell out $52 billion on the 20th century Fox deal so it would make sense that the folks at Fox want to get all of their properties in line before the mouse comes to inspect the new franchises it can ruin with quickly written and mass produced films.

You will live to see a Disney Aliens Vs Predator Cinematic universe.