Ban AppealByond ID?MusleyCharacter Name?Rex TexasType of Ban?Job/Role BanAdmin who banned you (if known)GrimcadTotal Ban DurationPermanentRemaining DurationN/AWhat other servers do you play on?N/AAre you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?N/AReason for BanSpecific report concerning overzealous MP action in enacting CO commandsLink to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):It exists, don't have access to it due to new forumYour appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc)So I'll just quote Grimcad's rationale for banning first.
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Alright. So this one is a little bit tricky but I am going to be breaking it down.
When Carson ordered you to keep the marines in the FOB it was a valid order at the time. However I believed that the actions taken were not the actions that a reasonable MP would take, and that the order became invalid very shortly after issued due to the proximity of the Xeno force. I think this is best show in these two lines.
[19:33:56]ATTACK: Kennard 'Trap' Davis (littleblast) shot the Elder Ravager (461) (sverd) with a rifle bullet in the Hospital
[19:33:56]ATTACK: Grady Molina (slduggy) shot Kennard 'Trap' Davis (littleblast) with a taser bolt in the Hospital
No matter the order an MP would, and should not, tase someone in the middle of fighting a hostile force. This is further supported by Marine Law. "Should there be hostiles in the vicinity, the MP is required to abort the arrest and move to a secure area."
It is fine to try to keep Marines in the FOB. But the moment Hostiles start to approach the FOB, it becomes and unsafe area and the order is thrown out the window in the best interests of safety.
Teargassing the marines while the area is under attack is the same. Hostile forces are in the area, do not take any measures that would harm your own side. The only thing you are doing is attacking your own force.
Something similar applies to teargassing them to get them to move out of the FOB. This is not WWII Russia. This is not the Warhammer 40k Universe. You do not injure your own in order to get them to go where you want them to be.
The charge of attempted murder on Kennard 'Trap' Davis was false. Assault, yes. Attempted murder no. It could have been a legitimate accident. But with everything else going around at the time, and the fact that you only reneged on the charge when you were bwoinked by an admin, I am inclined to believe it was not.
In summary I believe both MPs went too far and were too zealous in the enforcing of an order made by the Captain. As both MPs have notes relating to MP issues. Both players in question will receive MP and CMP bans.
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And then I'll clip together my conversation with Grimcad regarding the ban from discord.
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Me: "i did nothing questionable, never gassed a marine, never stunned near xenos, in fact when xenos were near i was actively trying to engage them with lethals (as seen by accidental ff of a marine near the rav). can you please reconsider? i always play mp with the idea in mind that when xeno threat is imminent i don�t enforce law/arrest
just find it all very unfortunate considering on that case alone, i did nothing wrong, but like with the shotgun ban, my name gets lumped in"
Grimcad: "But. You did tear gas marines. [19:39:41]ATTACK: Unknown (as Rex Texas) (musely) primed a M66 teargas grenade (JMP)
[19:39:43]GAME: A chemical smoke reaction has taken place in (Northwest Colony Grounds|36, 148)[ Condensed Capsaicin ]. Last associated key is Musely."
Me: "i�d also add even in defense of the cmp, we weren�t teargassing to keep them put of fob, but denying areas beyond barricades with gas to keep them back, which for my part, didn�t gas anyone
thats the only situation i teargassed at all
would just kindly ask for a little reconsideration and leniency of your part
i�d also just add as far as kennard, i didn�t levy the charge, i just saw he was wanted for that charge and arrested. if he wasn�t in that state, i wouldn�t have looked twice at him
and i only pursued him within the fob/lz"
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I would specifically ask that people don't chime in with their opinions of how they view me as a shitter because I brigged them for breaking the law, etc. I min sentence, I give warnings before I arrest, and I don't "softgrief". The person who made the appeal and several people who have put notes on me, on discord, have said they'd love to see me banned and hate my guts, etc. Very biased. It seems to me as though, in this case, not only did I get lumped in with the CMP in terms of gassing marines, which I myself didn't do, only denying areas beyond barricades with gas, but also was banned from a perspective that wasn't accurate to the situation on the ground, ie. gassing areas beyond marine control to keep marines in, rather than out of the FOB, and myself not actually gassing a single marine, but gassing areas to keep marines out. I arrested a marine for being wanted for a major crime, which is standard procedure.
I think this ban came about through a misunderstanding of the details surrounding the situation, and had maybe one note on me prior to this ban since the last job ban in the MP role?