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    Husky8129 - Synthetic Application

    Synthetic Whitelist Application
    Personal Information

    Byond ID?
    Husky8129

    Discord ID?
    Husky#2345

    Marine Name
    Marine:Ricky 'T' Tavi Beno: DD

    Other Whitelist Applications
    Predator application over a year ago that did get accepted.

    Character Information

    Name of the Synth Character you wish to play
    Robert

    What is your Synthetic's Personality?
    Robert tries to fit in with the marines by being a more "rugged" and vulgar personality. More suited for dealing with grunts rather than the Brass.

    Why do you want to be a synthetic/why should we whitelist you?
    I'm really interested in more active Roleplaying scenarios and I love to play support roles on the server.

    What is your most memorable interaction with a synthetic?
    I haven't had many Synthetic interactions because I hardly run into them due to playing near the front a lot.

    Synthetic Character Story
    The Robert model was designed to be user friendly towards Marine ground forces. A large part of his marketing campaign involved his much more dogged personality compared to similar Synthetic models making him preferable to slick talking marines over the much more refined models. However a lot of Officers find his personality grating at best and WY has seen it fitting to install a personality Dampener.

    "Calm down, you look better like this anyway." The droid, Robert, said with a gruff chuckle as he applied a tourniquet to what remained of the poor private's arm, who was still grimacing in pain. Robert reached into his shirt pocket and pulled out a carton of greens. "I wouldn't worry about that arm so much. We can just make you a better one." he stated, putting one of those greens into the mouth of the stabilizing private. Flicking open his zippo "Like mine!" and lit the cigarette before clenching his other hand into a fist and grabbing an injector. "Besides you're not that fucked up Marine!" The private grimaced one last time as that sweet pain stop juice hit their arm.

    Experience

    How familiar are you with Engineering?
    I've repaired enough APCs onboard the Almayer and set up Tcomms enough times to know what I'm doing without using a guide.

    How familiar are you with Command?
    I haven't been in command much myself but I'm pretty keen on getting the knowledge I need from comms chatter or spread it if necessary.

    How familiar are you with Medical?
    I love being medical. I haven't played medic in a while but I play a lot of DCC and always help with medical needs and have yet to kill anyone.

    How familiar are you with Requisitions?
    I know how to run the Req line and use the powerloaders. I should be able enough to fulfill any requests the RO should need.

    What are some scenarios that you can perform combat in? Give us a brief example.
    If the marines had a hard push going on I could be actively healing any marines that have taken damage on the frontline before they have to run back to a medic or start setting down roller beds.

    Confirmations

    Are you familiar with the Synthetic Programming and Guidelines?
    Yes

    Have you read the application process page?
    Yes

    Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or the Synthetic Programming Guideline?
    Yes

    Do you understand that you cannot advertise your application on any platform for votes. Do you also understand you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes

    Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason? Do you have any active jobbans?
    No

    Are you currently banned from our Discord, and if so, why?
    No

    Discord Ban Reason
    -

    Other Information

    Do you have anything else you would like to include about your application?
    I've been playing on CM for almost four years now. Unfortunately not a lot of that time was spent in the discord. I did have a Pred WL over a year ago but unfortunately my computer died and it was removed due to inactivity.
    Last edited by Husko; 12-17-2022 at 12:06 AM. Reason: Accidentally made an emoji

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    This is, quite possibly, the least complete application I've ever seen. Please reference examples of accepted apps. The story is non-existent and barely shows a single vague personal interaction before ending with a barely existent personality. The combat answer is also a strong indication of a failure to assimilate the combat restrictions.

    If you are in fact serious about wanting the WL, I would suggest utilizing the discord for the WL application help channel and/or communication with council members for a follow-up attempt.

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    Unfortunately there is a severe lack of any substance on this application (View accepted to see that a lot of them have more than 1 sentence about their synth personality and more than 5 sentences for synth's story). On top of that, I don't know who you are and the synth's personality will lead to conflict as vulgar speaking and actions has a higher chance of in-sighting conflict and arguments.

    Notes:

    1. give more substance for the questions about how much you know about the departments, like give them situations/what you do usually when you are a doctor/CT/RO/ETC so the councilors "know* you have experience and knowledge in that field.

    2. A better story, What you gave was a paragraph...... A single paragraph. You more or less NEED a STORY not a paragraph. Write more and see where your imagination leads you, look at other accepted applications to see what I mean by this.

    3. Work on a good synth personality, a unique personality is certainly good and will give you a 1 up on the application but it wont be the golden bullet. And sometimes a simple "Happy go lucky" personality can be done (If the story is GOOD and shows the personality excellently, Talk to the councilors about this specifically as they are very finicky and picky about synthetic's personailties)

    4. You been here for almost 4 years now, you should DOMINATE on command/req/etc as time gives experience and this is your answer for command? "I haven't been in command much myself but I'm pretty keen on getting the knowledge I need from comms chatter or spread it if necessary." it shows you know not enough in command to be eligible for the job of synth.

    5. Talk to Synthetics, they are always willing to speak and flant their personalities *with exceptions of being on the front line and if the synth is busy. Do not bug synthetics with menial tasks too.*. Unfortunately every time I have tried to RP with a synth they were busy so it more or less luck based if they are open for a chat or not.


    With this being said, I am not a WL'd synth nor synth councilor. So the WL'd synths can change/remove/add on/etc to what I said as they wish and whatnot.

    That's all I have to say for the moment, and unfortunately I will have to -1 this application due to the mentioned reasons above.


    God Speed Marine

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    Andy 'Mutton' Marcotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespy24574 View Post
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    Thank you for the enthusiasm, the criticism you gave was valid, but please keep commentary about the application itself reserved to whitelist holders and councilors

    We're more than happy to have you make a reply to an application, but please keep it to positive/negative commentary about the player OOCly/character ICly, such as if they're a nice person, they're a good roleplayer, etc.
    Phillip Clap and Esther

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    I appreciate the replies but I'm not trying to go for anything outrageous here. I just want a whitelist on a SS13 server because I want more opportunity for roleplay in a lore setting that I really enjoy. I'm open to actual criticism but don't say this is the most incomplete app you've read, I've read worse. I'd absolutely love to post my Yaujta WL app but it got deleted. If you want to read the stories associated with that app then by all means.
    Clan Lore: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...0P8PyEvoQ/edit
    Character Story: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...97B8I_saI/edit

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    Hello!

    I'll attempt to clear up some confusion and questions you have that others have said about your application for the Synth WL.

    Synthetic Personality
    When I read over this, I thought to myself "How does this distinguish yourself from Marines?" and I quite literally couldn't think of a single thing. Marines act vulgar to each other and there's nothing that makes you stand out, your explanation of said "personality" is short and uninteresting in the slightest. I'm not saying you can't use it but you gotta make it enjoyable, workable and have yourself stand out because your selected personality could be aggressive with Marines, which is something we really don't like.

    Synth Story
    Your story is very short and it doesn't even show off how you'll be roleplaying as "Robert". When I read this story, it felt like basic dialogue any marine can do. Your Synthetic should have an interesting personality to display via dialogue. Not every time, but it should be distinguishable because Synthetics are not Marines.
    I suggest looking through accepted Synthetic apps, see what personalities and quirks you can adapt for your next Synth app, be creative but not overzealous.

    Synth Combat
    This example of combat is very poor and it sounds like you'll intentionally run to Marines actively shooting targets to feed them pills which is distracting when they're attempting to move around. We want to know what happens when your Synth is attacked and what YOUR response will be, not just active combat at the frontlines. It's obvious you don't run in the middle.
    Make up examples, "what would happen if a Burrower attacked FOB" "What would I do if I saw 2 runners attacking and attempting to kidnap 1 marine". Think about these types of scenarios.

    Overall opinion
    I do not know who you are, I have never met you in game and this is something the other WL Synthetics would say. It would help if you were in the Discord so we would have some awareness to your presence but it's not required. In-game however, try to stand out from the crowd but don't break the server's rules doing so. I see potential in everyone, even if they don't want the WL, you have potential as well but you're not quite there yet. I want to know who Ricky Tavi is but I won't know if you're another random name who mindlessly plays the game without doing memorable actions.

    This app is a -1 from me and I suggest withdrawing the app, join the Discord and ask in the specific channel there to get help for your future application. Good luck!

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    Alright so I can see people are already misunderstanding what this character is supposed to be. Its not meant to stand out. Its meant to be a generic face that gets along with marines. I feel like you guys aren't even reading what I wrote and just missing the point of the character. I never said anything about running into live fire or anything about my characters personality attempting to make conflict. Don't try to make it seem like I'm going to unga out in front of a marine push or actively try to fight command staff. Don't get the term vulgar twisted, I'm just meaning he throws out the F bomb to fit in with marines. And I'm not going to simply remove this post if it gets denied I'll simply try again in a month. Again I'm open to valid criticism if its actual criticism and not "I dont know you lol" I have no interest in actively knowing every person on the server in fact I don't play the server to make friends, I got my people I know and hang out with I don't need to meta comm with everyone to enjoy the community. I'm here for roleplaying not forcing friendships. Memorable moments happen on the server at a constant as well, just because I'm not killing predators or because what I did wasn't talked about in ooc or dchat doesn't mean it wasn't memorable to those actually involved. I also don't have the time to be playing back to back to back rounds to get a chance for those memorable moments. I do the roles I play well, and I do them without causing fuss or being an asshole. My roleplaying is just being a normal marine, I dont want to be a snowflake like most of the "roleplayers", nothing meant by that but I just dont need to be noticed for me to enjoy the server and I don't think I should be noticed to get a simple synthetic role. The fact that I don't draw attention to myself constantly should be a good thing and not a bad one, I'm active. I know the rules. I know the do's and don'ts. I don't try to be a jerk to people.

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    You put basically 0 effort into the synth story, the combat answer is practically non-existent. The app is extremely low effort, and the fact you try to obfuscate this by saying "well there's worse apps" is telling about you, especially combined with your other replies. You being relevant or well known in the community is completely irrelevant for getting synth. I was a complete nobody when I got synth, the synth players themselves love the WL so much they'll dedicate time to watch you to see if you're mechanically skillful enough to hold the WL.

    You did the bare minimum for this application, you didn't talk to anyone who has the WL, nor did you talk to the council. The arrogance you showed in this application and your replies is extremely telling, and you should work to improve on that.
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    If you want no-holds-barred feedback, I shall proffer some.

    In the eyes of WL holders and more importantly council members you have demonstrated a complete misunderstanding of the character and role, and displayed several troubling behaviors.

    Firstly, synthetics in CM are not infiltrators meant to perfectly blend in, they're second-hand nice civilian models that were acquired and staffed on our ship due to force casualties while out in the middle of nowhere. We aim for unique, or at least different from marine/military standard. You can have a synthetic who swears, any synthetic can, but don't make your entire personality into "talks like a marine", it's shallow and doesn't give any background foundation for mindset or other behaviors. For example 2 good ones: Dale is based on the character Black Dynamite, he's cool, over-the top, and jazzy. It goes past how he speaks, he takes on situations with that thought of "what would a badass martial arts karate master do" and then puts the synthetic restriction filter on it and goes. Another example might be a Urban Search and Rescue unit who takes on body grabs and cuts through walls more readily as part of their background, or who might be more tenacious about efforts to recover, or stubborn about scope of practice and darker in their speech because of their experience in a regimented pre hospital environment. Personalities for synthetics are not just "I cuss a lot just like marines", it's a mindset that colors both speech and actions, and gives background for stories you might tell. Almost any synthetic you could ask about their past on different occasions and get consistent answers because of this.

    Second, seek out synthetics in rounds. Many of us enjoy hanging out at rear front line or might be around FOB, and it can be a very good experience to chill with one or offer escort around some dangerous areas. Interaction with synthetics is a good way to see examples of what they're supposed to be coming out in a round.

    Third, when you do a story you need to reference accepted applications or even better get feedback from councilors. You've spent more effort being hostile to the people you want to WL you than you did writing your story.

    Fourth, your "combat scenario" is not one. At least the people who post the copy-paste "I smack runner until it goes away or die when it attacks me when I am alone" are actually using a legitimate scenario that involves them doing combat. If you have questions about things like Delta Alert rules, times it's okay to finish off targets, rules regarding fighting humans, ask them in WL app help and get an answer from a synthetic or synthetic councilor.

    Lastly, that hostility makes me fairly confident that you would not be able to handle the organic, hostile situations that marines would get into with you. We've been far more tame than some of the people you meet in rounds, and we've gotten a level of hot-headed response that is deeply concerning with regards to the prospect of holding this WL.

    So yes, with no real personality, a small snippet of dialogue instead of a story, no combat scenario, it is about the least complete application I've seen.

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    Synthetics are subject matter experts in all things support, a jack of all trades that have mastered all of them. We can go down the list, the personality is light on detail. This can be forgiven to a degree when it is supported by the 1000 to 2000 word story that is on every accepted application in the last 2 years. I encourage you to read through those applications. I recommend reading the Synth Guidelines to understand what the combat question is asking. Synths and the members of the council often observe an applicant's rounds to confirm their in-game knowledge. There is nothing wrong with contacting councilors and synth WLers to get feedback on your synth's personality and story, and I would enjoy you to do so before submitting a future application. This application is denied.

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