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    ParadoxSpace - Pred Honor Code

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    Awan

    Your Character Name?
    Queen/Awan Oostveen

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    ParadoxSpace

    Accused Character Name
    Ikthya-de Luar'ke

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    13:33

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Pred Honor Code

    Description of the incident:
    The player went into the hive early into the round and got captured.
    The accusation got made that they were not fighting back and intentionally becoming an abomination.
    In this case, I myself am not 100% convinced that this is the case but for me, it is more likely than not.
    The attack logs do not show much fighting back against the Xeno's.
    This due to the fact that they made and used a healing crystal when captured in crit.

    The second thing is that before this incident the aliens had nested (not infected.) humans and the pred removed them and took them away. I got told by another pred that this was because they wanted to pit them against each other. I am of opinion this goes against the Slaves/Apprentices/Gladiators part of theYautja rules clarrification. But this is upto the council I guess.
    The survivor was also left on the pred ship for an hour. Without any of the other preds knowing. (This is second hand information though.)

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    Somewhere along the round I have started my recording because I expected the other preds to have to come in and plasmacast. I can share these at a later time but they do not contain him being captured not much of him not fighting back because I had other things to deal with as queen.

    I did export his attack logs and send them to sailordave. Because he was a councilmember online at the time.

    How you would punish the accused:
    This I leave upto the council.
    Last edited by awan; 01-01-2019 at 07:56 PM. Reason: Adding information.

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    Yes, I fucked up.
    One of ours was with me at the time two survivors were nested outside the armory. They took one, I assumed they brought them to the ship, so I brought another one to the ship. I thought it'd be fun for the two survivors that they'd have to battle to see who gets to go home. In the intro to myself getting crab'd, I was called away from my computer, when I did come back, I thought it would be oocly fair to the xenos that, for as few times it happens a year, they could get to have a bone thrown their way and have a Predalien, though I did eventually try to fight back (it would've been fruitless as I was surrounded by like 57 xenos.)
    Regardless, I'll take whatever punishment is thrown my way. I horrendously fucked up this round (more than I usually do atleast.)

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    [12:34:51] Grabbed Sydney 'Lilly' Wood () = null 
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    [12:48:50] the �Mature Spitter (242) shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spatter in the �Unknown Area. = null 
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    [12:50:33] the �Mature Spitter (242)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spatter in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:50:59] the �Elder Sentinel (834)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:51:02] Grabbed by �Mature Runner (429) () = null 
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    [12:55:14] the �Mature Sentinel (589) shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
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    [12:57:36] the �Elder Sentinel (834)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:57:36] the �Ancient Sentinel (102)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:57:36] Attacked �Elder Sentinel (834) () with wrist scimitar (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) = null 
    [12:57:37] Attacked �Elder Sentinel (834) () with wrist scimitar (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) = null 
    [12:57:54] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
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    [12:57:57] Grabbed by �Young Lurker (429) () = null 
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    [12:58:00] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:03] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:05] Grabbed by �Elder Sentinel (846) () = null 
    [12:58:06] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:10] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:13] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:17] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:17] Grabbed by �Young Lurker (429) () = null 
    [12:58:18] Grabbed by �Young Lurker (429) () = null 
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    [12:58:24] the �Mature Sentinel (945)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:58:43] Grabbed by �Young Lurker (429) () = null 
    [12:59:05] the �Ancient Sentinel (102)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:59:35] the �Ancient Sentinel (102)/ shot Unknown/paradoxspace with a neurotoxic spit in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [12:59:51] the �Elder Spitter (431)/tomato416 shot Unknown/ with a neurotoxic spatter in the �Unknown Area. = null 
    [13:05:20] Grabbed by �Ancient Sentinel (102) () = null
    I am quite sure I cut all ckeys out from this.

    I also mostly made the report because the accusation got made.
    And in my opinion it has to be investigated.
    Last edited by awan; 01-01-2019 at 07:50 PM. Reason: Adding information.

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    I was a predator during this round, K'zar Thar'n.

    Initially Paradox had captured a survivor and left them on the ship. I ask why, they tell me they wanted to make them and another survivor fight for their freedom... so I nod my head and say okay.

    Little after that Paradox dives into the hive to take a nested and infected host, bare smack in the middle of the hive with the Queen nearby. They obviously get captured, are put in crit... and they crystal themselves...? So they end up bursting despite all of our efforts to recover them.

    I am of the opinion this was done on purpose. This doesn't make any sense - and what leads me to believe this is that Paradox didn't even ask for help - and yes, comms were up. Moreover they didn't fight back, they just stood there.

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    I was an observer during this round, and watched from around when the Predator was captured by the xenos. The Predator had multiple chances to fight back, if not escape entirely, but at no point resisted further than a few punches before bursting. The Predator had their bracers, and could have used their wrist blades to fight, but did not attack with them. In addition, I also witnessed him use the healing crystal while captured, but again, made no effort to fight back.

    It is my opinion that they intentionally allowed themselves to burst, violating the Honor Code's section on abominations.

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    Right, I was a drone during this (I forget what the number was) and basically what happened is shortly after I burst out of a monkey and just before I could evolve a pred decloaks in the middle of the hive. We all watch it trying to figure out what it's doing there when 5-7 xenos and the Queen are nearby when it cuts open a secure nest, grabs one of the infected Survivors, and tries to teleport away. The other xenos swarm it and start slashing/tackling it while I scream over the hivemind that they're trying to steal the hosts. At some point during this the predator got facehugged and the predator spent the next 10-15 minutes being tackled by no fewer than 4 xenos at any given time, sometimes as many as 5-6, making occasional punches or attacks whenever it got up. I remember it was able to kill a Sentinel or Spitter before it died since I was sitting there as a drone with frenzy pheromones to try to up the tackle chances, so it wasn't that it wasn't fighting back but that it wasn't able to make many hits.

    After that it was a pretty intense and fun round to both play and spectate with the Predators going ham on the Abom and Xenos alongside the Marines, making for an intense and enjoyable round, but I do agree that the initial incident, the attempted theft of an infected Survivor, definitely wasn't cool and we lost more than 200 ticks of maturation/evolution time since the queen deovied and the other Preds (who were in the area when this incident happened) ran to tell the Marines where we were. If the abom didn't burst, the Xenos most likely would have lost because of the Predators' (as in all of them) antics.
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    Predator's are held to high standards and being rusty or out of touch isn't an excuse when it comes to breaking rules. While possibly only a suspension from Predator would occur from intentionally being infected, there were multiple other red flags and general disregard for the Predator role. Going afk for extended periods while planetside instead of the ship is taboo and ignoring most of the capture/gladiator rules is yet another mark all in the same round. Because of these reasons, ParadoxSpace will have their predator whitelist revoked. The whitelist can be recovered in the future here.

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