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    Should Rule 1 Be Changed?

    Rule 1. No Erotic Role Play (ERP), erotic content, or 18+ sexual content - Roleplay intended to elicit a sexual response from the receiver(s), including but not limited to writing stories (WGW) or posting links to adult content. Doing so will almost always result in an instant permaban from our server. This is not to be confused with distasteful but acceptable marine bravado such as scratching your crotch or cup-checking. However, these actions could still be susceptible to Marine Law.

    The current rule is something a lot of staff members do what they want with, as they decide if it falls into this category. The rule needs re-written because who scratches their crotch in-game or cup-checks? Just about no one. With that, we have marine law for a lot of offenses in-game, so why do a lot of them get thrown with the 18+ rule when they can be dealt with in-game?

    No ERP is quite fine because the server isn't meant for that. 18+ sexual content is a grey line because what do you mean by that? Wouldn't anything having to do with the genitals be 18+? Though we allow scratching of the crotch and cup-checking; this makes no sense. 18+ sexual content rule needs to be changed to something like pornography links, and stuff like WGW. This is not happening, and multiple people are getting in trouble for stuff that is 18+ going on between two adults that isnt (ERP, something to elicit a sexual response), but is what the rule calls marine bravado.

    The rule needs to be changed, and it's disgraceful how it's being used to nit-pick things.
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    Say it will fuck over marines more. 100% Guaranteed rule rewrite.
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    Honestly anything that's not porn links, some kind of fucked up harassment, or ERP (to elicit a sexual response) should be fair game in my opinon. I just don't see the reason for censoring anything else.
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    It's a difficult line to walk, especially with any kind of Alien franchise material which will always have 18+ undertones. On one hand I don't want Colonial marines to regress to Vore station levels of trash where the game mechanics support ERP and worse, but to an extent, with material such as face huggers and devouring, this is already present, just not acknowledge as such.

    I suspect the 18+ rule is supposed to signal that yes, Colonial marines has some 18+ content, but that doesn't make it okay to live out a fetish on this server. From what I've gathered the rule also exists to satisfy some of the server host problems due to host country laws, but that's just mild speculation. This makes it somewhat difficult to not make a vague harsh law even if it has to ignore the 18+ content already present in the Alien franchise.

    tl,dr: It's harsh and mildly hypocritical but if we didn't have it, we'd be vore station with extra steps

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    apparently if you talk about your peepee but with another word thats 18+ so its gotta be kid friendly we can no longer say the D word lumdor because i know so many marines who go in game just to say lrp retarded shit like "MY PEEPEE HURT" but if you said "MY D hurt" then its all of a sudden 18+ same sentences just different word lol. just like how staff couldnt tell apart IC racism and LRP racism and trolling so they just took the IC racism clause out lol.

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    Rule could definitely use some rewording, but right now I feel it serves its purpose. Context is what matters, just saying a dick shouldn't get you in trouble but the context in which the word dick is used.

    Also don't forget "Rule 0.1 Rules are enforced as intended. Every example of a rule break cannot be defined as written, therefore, enforcement of the rules is subject to staff interpretation of the rule's intention"

    Staff is very diverse, we have different cultures and different definition for what is sexual. Perhaps more up to date clarification for the rule could be used. Also remember, if you're unhappy with how a staff is enforcing this rule, you can file a staff report. But in most cases this rule is used as intended.
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    The scope of the rule is way too vague. I've seen admins let some pretty blatant ERP and 18+ content fly while others seek out and punish extremely minor offenses if they even apply at all.

    It's pretty clear that this is indicative that any rule that lacks a consensus on what it means and how it's enforced is, by definition, bad. Making the rule more lenient yet specific is ideal, since it won't alienate over half the playerbase (who are over 18 anyway) while making mods have an easier time enforcing it.

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    A few thoughts:

    1. There is an obvious "creep factor" to SS13 that is well known among the playerbase. This is common in pretty much any RP-centric online multiplayer game.

    2. I have found myself "held back" a few times on something I wanted to say for humors sake, but not often. Part of me feels like it is for the best given how often I've seen people take things "too far" in games, especially by jumping off of someone else's dirty joke and taking it one notch higher back and forth until it gets weird.

    3. IMHO "IC romances" are 100% cringe 100% of the time, sexual or not. But what can ya do.

    4. Porn links and sexual copypasta are a no-brainer, I don't think anyone could argue that part of the rule.

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    just allow full on ERP
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    people throw slick shots and obvious hints of sexual positions and such but if they dont say it directly some mods will just see it as fine and also its like i said i've seen players say "My Peepee got shot off"
    but when a player says "my dick got shot off" thats when most mods would step in to do something lmao. but not anything to the people who go around walking naked in bras and panties and making dirty jokes and shit that only few people understand.

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