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    n/a - Rules: 3, 4, ~5, 11.

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    CallMeArty

    Date of Incident
    September 2, 2019

    Your Character Name?
    Grizwald Everard

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    n/a

    Accused Character Name
    Lauren Von Fusenaga

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    Between 9:35pm and 12:24pm, September 2nd.

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rules: 3, 4, ~5, 11.

    Description of the incident:
    I had spawned as a Tank Crewman alongside Lauren Von Fusenaga. We discussed roles, and decided that they would gun, and that I would drive.
    They got me a marine suit of armor and uniform and told me to get out of my tanker armor "so we didn't stick out", and did the same for themselves.

    The map was Solaris Ridge, and we had reached the end of the road branching East from LZ1, where Marshall Offices and Hospital meet (https://i.imgur.com/O0gZFmu.png?2). I was unsure of where to go, and was facing the Marshall's Offices hallway (only two wide, similiar to the hospital's door). When I commented on the situation, Lauren said "just drive!" So, I drove towards Marshall's and began crashing into the wall, thinking they knew something I didn't. Nope, they began berating me for the action. They then insisted we switch seats, and drove through the hospital shutters. To a degree, I understand the anger, though it would have been a better situation had they instead just given directions. Oh well.

    We busted through the hospital, and then the real problems started. Lauren, evidently, did not care for the safety of themselves, or their teammates. They drove through marines and xenos alike, and berated me for not firing more often. Unfortunately, there were a number of issues with this.

    Firstly, these orders to "fire!" came when there were a large group of marines intermingled with, infront of, or behind a small group of xenos. I understand that as dastardly it may be, friendly fire can be a necessary evil. The issue came when Lauren insisted that I fire into two smartgunners, a squad leader, a specialist, and a number of others to harm a defender and lurker. I had announced that there were "too many friendlies" and asked that they "fallback" or "get behind the tank!"

    Secondly, was the loadout. We had the minigun, grenade launcher, and, ballistic armor. I don't know a whole lot about the tank, but I know that the ballistic armor is for "High penetration weapons and slashing attempts" whereas the grenade launcher could be described a "large explosive projectile". Lauren repeatedly berated me for not firing the launcher almost directly on top of us to get the xenos. I responded by telling them that we clearly had the wrong armor/weapon combo for this, and that I wasn't a great gunner, and they insulted me more.

    Thirdly - and this may be more of a matter of opinion than anything else - they were spinning the tank erratically. If we were surrounded, I would understand this. However, we were defending from two directions, and they turned to face four. Lauren would say "grenade!" , I would attempt to fire, and they would turn. I see this as equivalent to repeatedly bumping into someone treating a patient, using the tactical binoculars, applying medicine, building, or any number of easily-interruptible actions. Once is an accident, twice is annoying, but continuously for the period of a couple minutes is enough get suspicious of something.

    This was all within the initial engagement.

    I was not as composed as I could have been, but I did my best to communicate these things to Lauren, so that we could work better in the next engagement.

    The second engagement, they drove directly into a group of xenos while demanding that I drop grenades directly on top of our already-damaged tank while repeatedly backing over the aliens we were on while I objected and asked that we back up. When they finally did, they took time to tell command that I was awful and should just quit life. In that time, we were surrounded. They backed into a wall rather than retreat, drive through the aliens blocking our retrurn to the FOB, asking me to shoot them, asking to switch seats, or even angling the tank in a way that I could do any of those myself. They planted a block of C4 on the wall without warning me and . . . we narrowly escaped because we were stuck in a wall directly adjacent to a sleeper, and were able to enter it to get through the wall.

    They seemed fine, but I took the brunt of the C4, deaf, going blind, and handicapped on the floor. They walked away, turned around, and rendered aid by doing "*shrug". They walked away. When I finally got my hearing back, I heard them complaining about me to command taking no responsibility for their own actions, and continuing to insult me even after the CO ordered us to stop bickering in the command comms.

    After treatment, I went groundside to battle alongside the marines in my original armor, they ran by in a folded paper hat, and I later heard that they were Battlefield Executed for flushin Jones down the toilet.

    TL;DR: A Sergeant First Class and one of two players on the marines who can turn the tide of the entire fight refused to communicate with the only other person sharing this position, acted immaturely, irrationally, and without regard for friendly players, eventually trashing the most powerful tool the USMC has within the given planet's orbit seemingly out of spite, only to redeem themselves by running into battle looking like Curious George (https://folditcreations.files.wordpr...paper_boat.jpg) and harassing command. In addition, they chose to disguise themselves as a normal marine so as to be less of a target (debatable, as it makes sense IC-wise, and it is arguably meta for the aliens to target the tankers during repairs).

    I brought this up in Dchat and later OOC, and multiple players had mentioned multiple accounts of Lauren having similiar behavior in the role, including Discord Staff Sargash, and moderator Scsnv.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    No logs/screenshots from the game, though this is from the CM discord the night of the incident. https://imgur.com/9sHvkWv

    How you would punish the accused:
    Considering the grief that they caused myself, in addition to other players for a highly coveted and borderline cherished roll, I believe they should be banned from the position of Tank Crewman for the forseeable future pending an appeal.

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    Accused Ckey is JahFairy

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    Thank you, sorry about th- oh man how did I miss the "title" block?

    JahFairy - Rules 3, 4, ~5, and 11.

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    Was XO that round. Can confirm that Lauren did berate Grizwald for not firing the GL secondary after running over some aliens, no idea if that would've damaged tank or out and out destroyed it. TBH I thought they died when we lost the tank marker on the tactical map.

    Otherwise would add that the TC roll ussally gets hot blooded people over time. It pretty common for driver and gunner to argue on what should be done or not, this is because the role is very dependent on both being in sync with what they want done and should be done but cant communicate due to limitations of text chatting while fighting. For comparison I would look at games like Squad or Planetside which also has multiple players needed to man various vehicles yet do have voice chat abilities to help facilitate communications and prevent as much conflict as we typically see.

    That said really need chat logs on it because I am not sure if they continued to berate Call me Arty even after the tank was destroyed or what else happened with the two.

    Oh and can confirm Lauren was BEed for flushing Jones down the disposal, it was after also just harassing CIC with silly shenanigans and other stuff, we were far from defcon 2 (were at defcon 4) and aliens were low in numbers and so we were we so it was going to be a we run out of men and defend the alaymer or we finally get the aliens, just background information on that. It was RPed out and announced so it wasn't just BLAM for flushing Jones.

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    Hello. This is not about the round mentioned but i have to say i also had fairly bad experiences with Lauren. The first time was after a marine with with the tank playing a central role. She went and bought the flamer and the grenade launcher before saying in LOOC "tired of that meta shit", which was referring to the classic and only decent tank loadout. She then got herself near naked, delayed us by getting arrested, being rude and generally not very cooperative for the rest of the round. Unsurprisingly, we didn't kill anything. It wasn't complete grief and after all, every weapon should be viable, but it is clear to me that they knew it was far from the optimal loadout and were doing it on purpose. This particular instance was in the night of the 27 to the 28/08, CET time.

    I'd also like to say that she also bought the Cupola again yesterday and the deadchat pretty much went into arms to talk about how annoying she is. You can also find some people expressing dislike of her as a tanker within discord by searching her name.
    My intent is not to get her banned, but to make sure Call_Me_Arty post doesn't get relatively ignored due to a lack of logs.

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    Lauren as tanker, holy shit, where to begin. First, I want to say that I was indeed a PFC this round and can back up everything CallmeArty has said. She drove the tank erratically and did not give a damn about allied casualties. Second, I've seen Lauren as tanker enough times to post as a character witness to how she pretty much griefs as the role. Lauren has no regard for her fellow tanker, she rushes the vendor and buys whatever she pleases without consulting them. She has no regard for human life, friendly firing anyone in her way of a kill. She has no regard for the health of the round, suicide charging with the tank, dismounting, and dying for no solid cause. I count my lucky stars that I've never had the displeasure of actually tanking with them. I have not ONCE seen Lauren have her tank survive more than 20 minutes while she's driving. It's not just incompetence, it's sheer disregard for her own life and everyone else's lives. Not to mention her LRP actions, such as getting battlefield executed for killing the Captains cat.


    I'm happy that someone whose round she ruined finally made a report, so that we can get this problem resolved. I fully support a J-ban from Tank Crewman.

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    This is not going to become a dogpile or a series of character witnesses against JahFairy. If you were a witness to the events in this report and can contribute information, you are permitted to do so. Otherwise, let's put a lid on the comments.

    Also, a side note; I have had little-to-no interaction with JahFairy and have not made any comments about them, as this report states. I did show you how to file a player report, but beyond that I deny any involvement.
    Trial Moderator: 4/18/19 - 5/2/19 / Moderator: 5/3/19 - 10/1/19 / Senior Moderator: 10/2/19 - 12/26/19 / Trial Admin: 12/27/19 - 1/11/20 / Mod Manager: 1/12/20 - 4/18/20

    Cerwick/Balakura/etc
    Discord: noah#7322

    Former staff member and long-time CO Council member, now I just wave my boomer cane at people when I want something to complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scsnv View Post
    Also, a side note; I have had little-to-no interaction with JahFairy and have not made any comments about them, as this report states. I did show you how to file a player report, but beyond that I deny any involvement.
    I apologize for not making that sufficiently clear. I wrote the report some hours after the round-of, and my memory of the pre-round OOC wasn't too clear. I remembered a fancy color of text also commenting on their behavior, but didn't think to screenshot the discussion.

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    Logs:

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    Grimcad will be handling this now:

    However here is some further evidence I was sent about previous behavior as a tank crewman by a Moderator and Senior Moderator

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    Last edited by ThesoldierLLJK; 09-04-2019 at 01:38 AM.

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