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    Quote Originally Posted by Call me Arty View Post
    Good. I like this.
    Having to start the "Red Dogs! What are these, giant lizards? Screecher!" game every round was a pain, and felt a bit too Paradisey for my comfort.

    Are there any planned disciplinary actions for breaking RP etiquette? I don't mean small cases of "Oh hey, Ravager and Praetorian up there because this is my first time seeing them and I already know the common given names for them." type stuff, but moreso like all of Delta rushing a common nesting spot, xenos targetting those in Specialist/Tanker/Commander armor, etc. Will it be the usual "voice of god", something along the lines of more LV-Fog, or decicated Admin PMs and marks on records?
    Xenos can probably tell who a leader is based off of pheromones or something, power dynamics n shit, if you see one guy point towards something and shout and everyone around them stops what they're doing to do that, the shouty guy is /probably/ the leader, and xenos understand what leaders are

    as for spec weapons, they know how they work generally, and since they're a hive mind it might not be unreasonable to think that the tube that one host pointed towards you all might be dangerous, though they probably wouldnt know exactly how it works or what the payload will be

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    �The aliens... they are coming for us all... secure the vents and prepare our defenses, we need to slaughter as many as we can! We got a colony to save!�
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    All the younglings are already up in arms against this. Saying like "ew we have to do cringey RP". Like. Get over it. It's an RP game that involves fun things you get to kill eachother with. Don't hate on people for doing the right thing, or now better yet; just following the rules.

    I personally like this. It allows for easier for both sides of the spectrum to avoid/enjoy RP without getting into trouble for slip ups.

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    How would the its too early to spread the hive workout since the xenos know the marines arr coming

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    I'm not a fan if this turns into, "Lets allow players to say XENO MAD IC" or "Lets allow xenos/marines to meta rush someone."

    I know. You say there are going to be rules against that but, to be frank, you are relying on an honor system. Its na�ve and the past shows us mods already rarely, if ever, punish meta rushes. If this idea is to work, you're going to have to crack down, and early at that, on any meta-rush tendency or idea that sprouts from some convoluted belief that its now allowed just because they know a bit about Xenos and their general existence.

    Additionally, I know it says marines have understanding of the xenos, but have they fought them before? I think that's a key distinction we should make and helps the argument of not being able to meta every single thing about them.

    I see potential I wasn't aware of actually in the idea this could be a new route of RP and Server basis, but if this fucks up we'll just become Corporate Merc: CM V2 Edition.

    In that vein of thought, if we do this, we should elaborate a little more on the RP side of things and make sure we aren't removing a system that works with a system that doesn't.
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    Now this, is Epic.
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    Does this mean I can say xenos mad ICly now doe
    We're having a general crackdown on meme/lrp, so the phase itself is fine but likely going to be overused to the people it gets banned. I'd advise you use it in a phase other than just, "Xeno mad."

    Are there any planned disciplinary actions for breaking RP etiquette? I don't mean small cases of "Oh hey, Ravager and Praetorian up there because this is my first time seeing them and I already know the common given names for them." type stuff, but more so like all of Delta rushing a common nesting spot, xenos targetting those in Specialist/Tanker/Commander armor, etc. Will it be the usual "voice of god", something along the lines of more LV-Fog, or dedicated Admin PMs and marks on records?
    As far as knowing Xeno names, this is IC and made to be much more organic in nature. If you're a new player, you will just naturally have no clue what anything is called. If you're naming them, even if you're RPing as your first Xeno mission, you could still know what things are called though other people. So as far as Xeno names and such go, there is no real "illegal" way to RP with the names. As far as metarushing goes, we're looking to make this strictly an IC thing where you really just can't rush. This is still like the river on Desert Dam or the FoB in LV. Xeno targeting may be annoying, but this is an IC thing since even if we did make a rule against it, you can't really prove someone is actually attacking someone because they're a Smartgunner, IO, etc etc. As such, with a stronger influence on the round, you're more likely to be targeted by the enemy so you need to be with men and women who can protect you.

    I like the idea of this. But will it be enforced?
    The rules, yes. The Roleplay style; well yes, but actually no. As far as Expected Contact goes, there's nothing to really enforce outside poor RP, which is a different thing and is being cracked down on. Expected Contact simple removes the old restrictions we had on RP where you didn't know anything about the Xeno and all the server rules tied into that. As such, as far as RPing about Xeno, there's not much there to get in a huge amount of trouble over.


    Parting from the principle that the Marines know about this new xenomorph species from the start and that The Company��� was responsible for causing the events of the previous movies. Why the marines just don't skin the CL alive at the start of every round?
    CL lore can be fleshed out in the future (we didn't want to go too crazy with lore/rule changes for the testing phase), but it can be assumed that The Company��� was either just testing on the Xeno in this area, or simply covered their tracks enough as far as general connections are concerned. Keep in mind we are in no way affiliated with Fox, Disney, or the Alien license.

    I can say this is the kind of move I wanted, main thing are rules to prevent people trying to use them as an excuse to pull things like rushing at xenos to make it work. If those are enforced well enough should work out.
    The biggest issue is that metarushing is a very hard thing to pin on a single person or apply punishments that are fair and not being applied to uninvolved players. Ideally, we can help get more IC roadblocks for players to work on overcoming and interacting with rather than us just having to step in and say, "You attacked too fast".

    How would the its too early to spread the hive workout since the xenos know the marines arr coming
    I don't quite know what you're referring to. Taking it literally, if you're talking about expanding the hive, there is no rule against this. The only new rule the Xeno currently have is that they can't just sit at the LZ's to attack the Marines as they all try to unload from the dropship. It would be really cheap and unfun to walk out the door and instantly die to boiler gas when you can't even move out of it. Hopefully that answered your question.

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    Hmm...

    So does that mean that Marines can weld all vents planetside immediately, as previous knowledge shows they use vents? If so, you can bet that's going to happen every time.

    Also, I think there is two roles who are going to get major and much needed boosts from this -

    Corporate Liaison
    Researcher

    They could be made to be the source of much of this information. The RP opportunities expand greatly as now CIC have a reason to talk to the Researcher who could blurt out what they know, or expand on current understandings.

    Interesting change. Very interesting.

    I wait with excitement for the day I see the Researcher deliver a briefing after the CO on the ground threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilm View Post
    So does that mean that Marines can weld all vents planetside immediately, as previous knowledge shows they use vents? If so, you can bet that's going to happen every time.
    Implying it doesn't already.

    Personally, I think this is a good change, too. Most everyone already acts as if they know what's going to happen. If you get crabbed, you go to medical. If you see a ravager, you pretty much already know it's fireproof. The screecher is a really important target to focus. Now everyone can use the appropriate terms without feeling silly and what we see done in the game reflects what people are going to say/how they're going to talk about it. It's a CL/Researcher RP buff, marines can finally use the term bug-hunt, and xenos still can't meta. I really, really hope this sticks.

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    Yeah based on Discord and what I've heard there and here...

    It sounds like either the Devs are gonna have to change the maps/sides up to basically make metarushes not a thing anymore at all or... the mods will have to crack down on a period of CM where marines begin metarushing cause, "Muh Swift Victory" and "I meta know xenos are in caves so nothing stops me meta rushing it."

    Just a thought.

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