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    Reason will *eventually* prevail

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    Every game will always have people who never get decent at the game. It's a plain old fact. A whitelist is not gonna stop that. A co, pred, synth, dont need to be good at the game. Queen doesnt either so dont lock something which will only make more issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    At this point what Queen has that other benos don't?
    Neuro? Check
    Screech? Prae check
    Observing other benos? Every beno Check
    Pheros? Drone and such Check
    Being armoured and with fairly big HP pool? Crusher and Defender Check
    Laying eggs? Carrier Check
    Building? Drone and such Check

    The only thing is ovi, and you have all the time you need to learn OVI on your first real Queen round, where you are experienced with other benos and what they can do.
    Just dropping some baldo benomain as Queen for "trial by fire" is simply stupid and will result with beno buffs which is even more stupid.
    You can learn 95% what Queen does just by observing her and playing benos a bit. You won't learn how to be good Queen after even 10 rounds of being a Queen as complete baldo who never played CM.
    Is your argument in agreement with timed lock or in agreement with whitelist? Because you're making a really solid argument for a timelock.

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    the easy fix is remove queen and add swarmlord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daturix View Post
    Same question. Do you even play video games?
    More than staff does. Hehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daturix View Post
    Every game will always have people who never get decent at the game. It's a plain old fact. A whitelist is not gonna stop that. A co, pred, synth, dont need to be good at the game. Queen doesnt either so dont lock something which will only make more issues.
    Whitelist is just a griefing shield, timelock on the other hand... It is what keeps complete baldos and fresh griefers from taking important role, role that other players depend on.

    On many servers you can't get Captain, or AI, or HoP, or any Head of Staff when you first visit a server, or play one round.
    The whole argument about "people who never get decent at the game" is not important. Yes, such people exist, but timelock would be a strainer that would filter every complete baldo and fresh griefer, leaving only decent players and those who never get decent.
    In the end:
    Queen without timelock pool: Fresh Griefers, Complete baldos, decent players, players who never get decent. 3 out of 4 choices are disaster for benos (while somebody who played beno required ammount of time will be better than fresh meat and griefers anyway).
    Queen with timelock pool: Decent players and players who never get decent. 1 ouf ot 2 choices is a disaster for benos, however not complete.
    Pros and cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corocan View Post
    Is your argument in agreement with timed lock or in agreement with whitelist? Because you're making a really solid argument for a timelock.
    Whitelist is a griefing shield.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ View Post
    the easy fix is remove queen and add swarmlord
    Remove benos, add Scrin instead.

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    None of the roles you listed are essential to the game. If you made a queen whitelist, Then you fuck over a lowpop round where no one has said whitelist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty40 View Post
    Still wont solve the issues, only stop a few more cases per week. A few less rounds of mind numbing stupidity. But if they make it only take 4-8 hours to unlock, thats only 2-3 rounds played, not nearly enough time for a new player to understand anything before selecting queen, it really only forces those that are abusing the role with alt accounts to age those queen alt accounts instead. And before someone says I have on too much tinfoil, start watching the actions of suspiciously dumb queens. Last week we had 3 outright suicide charges from more or less silent queens that didnt heal or direct the flow of combat all round. And those were just the rounds I was on xeno and paying attention
    I never said it would solve issues. I pointed out how a whitelist would create more issues than it solves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty40 View Post
    >intelligent discussion on one of the biggest issues currently, multiple points that could be addressed or argued against.

    >Staff response: "Do you even play video games?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    More than staff does. Hehe.



    Whitelist is just a griefing shield, timelock on the other hand... It is what keeps complete baldos and fresh griefers from taking important role, role that other players depend on.

    On many servers you can't get Captain, or AI, or HoP, or any Head of Staff when you first visit a server, or play one round.
    The whole argument about "people who never get decent at the game" is not important. Yes, such people exist, but timelock would be a strainer that would filter every complete baldo and fresh griefer, leaving only decent players and those who never get decent.
    In the end:
    Queen without timelock pool: Fresh Griefers, Complete baldos, decent players, players who never get decent. 3 out of 4 choices are disaster for benos (while somebody who played beno required ammount of time will be better than fresh meat and griefers anyway).
    Queen with timelock pool: Decent players and players who never get decent. 1 ouf ot 2 choices is a disaster for benos, however not complete.
    Pros and cons?



    Whitelist is a griefing shield.



    Remove benos, add Scrin instead.
    tl;dr timelock is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daturix View Post
    tl;dr timelock is good.
    Do you even play the forum? Hehe.

    Of course timelock is good. Whitelist is bad.

    The funniest thing right now is that you can't become moderator, or Admin from the "get go", you have to first pass "trail" period. Why not let people with "trail by fire" to full on Adememebus? Oh, better to keep irresponsible people away? Queen? Everyone should have access.

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