State of the Queen

[MasterShakeEZ]

Yes, I'm pretty sure the plan is for timelocks across the board. At least I remember a dev talking about for Marines only PFC and MT/CT wouldn't be locked.

I wish they would put in the timelocks for everything without gathering time first. So we would have rounds of only t1 vs pfc and crazy shennanigans for a week. Would be hillarious.

[Sixty40]

Not a shitpost, but to be honest, the griefing shield also known as "whitelist" should be removed. Timelock with like 100 gameplay hours (being alive) for playing Pred is enough. 20 hours of MT, Req and Doctor is enough to play Synth. 15 hours of playing SO/XO is enough to play CO.

This way admemes can handle any issue in real time, without responding like: "Oh, he is griefing by violating his shit code? Fill a report mate, he will be able to do whatever he did not only to the end of this round, but untill report is resolved, like a month, or more".

Indeed, 10 hours of beno is enough to be decent Queen.

Agree on all points as long as the time counted is spent alive

[Madventurer]

4-8h xeno timelock is sufficient.

If you have the patience to play xeno for that long, you'll pick up SOMETHING and at least have some kind of clue what you're doing. If not, then nothing can help it.

[Cakey]

We are working on a timelock system that will affect all roles and have pre-requisites based on other roles rather than global playtime. This will come into effect for any role that isn't a PFC or a whitelisted role. For example, roundstart queen will require X hours as a standard xenomorph before being selectable, and RO will require X hours as a CT before being selectable.

[Pigeon]

We are working on a timelock system that will affect all roles and have pre-requisites based on other roles rather than global playtime. This will come into effect for any role that isn't a PFC or a whitelisted role. For example, roundstart queen will require X hours as a standard xenomorph before being selectable, and RO will require X hours as a CT before being selectable.

TBH I wouldn�t mind other features being put on hold to push a time lock out as a time lock doesn�t just stop problems of new players taking important roles it also gives a better path of progression for new players.

[Daturix]

christ, if low-pop rounds are such a problem (which it really isn�t), just make queen a �soft� whitelist. if a guy with queen whitelist is present and has queen set to yes, he gets prioritized over everyone else.

so never let new players play queen and alllow people to grief by locking that role?

[Cimo]

I played before they added CO whitelist, everyone could play it and there was a shitlist via jobban, and I can assure you, nothing improved after they added it, the same shit, and it got even worse now cuz u got the same ppl with the same meta strats repeating forever into an incest cycle, atleast back then u had the occasional odd CO that gave flavor to the round, a queen whitelist wont improve its performance imo, it would just be another obstacle in the way, a time lock however will rly help as it will weed out ppl who literally joined the game for the first time.

[LubedDwarf]

I think a 24 hour timelock would suffice, anything less is a straight baldie. Honestly, even after 24 hours of xeno playtime a person would still be relatively bald, but it would be manageable.

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

I would like to remind Daturix and everyone that keeps going on and on about "THINK OF THE NEWBIES". We only wish to stop the very absolute baldie with 0 xeno (or hell, even SS13) experience from going queen. Time and time again, people have said that new players can play queen all they want as long as they've had a bit of xeno experience to at least ovi on time, maybe screech while on the same screen as marines, and know the game a little bit. 90% of the skill needed to play queen can be gained by just playing other castes, and spending some rounds to observe and see how the game flows.

If anything, THINK OF THE NEWBIES. Every time an absolute baldie plays queen, they get trashed on and mocked so much that some completely give up playing altogether. You know why? Because unlike the current whitelisted roles, A QUEEN IS ABSOLUTELY PIVOTAL to xeno's victory (especially the roundstart queen). Pred, synth, and CO are whitelists; even though you can easily learn to play them by playing xeno (for pred, melee skill basically), support roles (for synth), and XO (for CO). Yet, xeno queen as of now HAS NOTHING to prevent or at least limit the newest of new players from playing it and ruining rounds; which is a very very common thing these days, as we're getting more and more new players.

Whenever someone else brings up "buh but, new players tho", just give them a screenshot of this post pls tks.

[spookydonut]

people in this thread are confusing whitelists with preferential whitelists (soft whitelists).

What some people want for queen is a preferential whitelist where queen is picked by;
Anyone on the preferential whitelist that wants to be queen
Anyone else.

If you also added timelocks then it would as such;
Anyone on the preferential whitelist
Anyone who has enough hours to unlock queen
Anyone else.


A queen timelock just by itself is basically just a preferential whitelist, since if no one with enough hours to unlock queen wants to play queen that round, you either have no queen round start (this is usually annoying for xenos) or you have to let anyone play as queen that round.