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    Unknown - Rule 3

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    thedexfiles

    Date of Incident
    October 15, 2019

    Your Character Name?
    Garret Dalheart

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    Unknown

    Accused Character Name
    Ancient Lurker XX-529

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    Around 12:30 CT

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 3

    Description of the incident:
    I didn't want to make a report but was urged by fellow players, so here it is.

    I was fighting the last of the Xenos in the caves of LV when we were all swarmed by the Queen and several xenos and all killed.
    Ancient Lurker XX-529 then eventually dragged my now dead body off into the west jungle, since I had been hugged not too long before and hid me in the bushes, causing perma death; when I would have been revived by the squad that got there soon after, and chased the xenos away from where me a several other marines had fallen.

    I ahelped but was told it was an IC Issue by AcuteCircle, and when I said I didn't understand why, was told "it is. devs are working on a gameplay fix" and the auto reply of "ask your Chain Of Command about your issue if you believe Marine Law has been broken", that was sent first didn't make any sense to me at all for my issue.

    Not sure where it is written down, but I know dragging off dead bodies to be hidden is not something Xenos should be doing; perhaps someone can point me in the direction to where that's written down; or correct me if I am mistaken?

    It would be appreciated, thank you.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    I wasn't able to screen grab my body due to round end and focusing on Ahelps, but I copied the conversations before round end.

    I imagine logs can and should be pulled to verify.

    AHELPS

    PM to Staff (Gameplay / Roleplay Issue):
    ?Ancient Lurker XX-529 hid my body in the bushes after I died. Was told to ahelp it


    NOTICE: AcuteCircle is autoresponding with 'IC Issue'. This issue has been deemed an IC (In-Character) issue, and will not be handled by staff. In case it's relevant, you may wish to ask your Chain Of Command about your issue if you believe Marine Law has been broken. You may click on the staff member's name to ask more about this response.http://cm-ss13.com/wiki/Rank'>Chain Of Command about your issue if you believe Marine Law has been broken. You may click on the staff member's name to ask more about this response.>


    PM to AcuteCircle: I don't see how it's an IC issue


    TrialAdmin PM from AcuteCircle: it is. devs are working on a gameplay fix


    DEADCHAT

    DEAD: Oliver 'Unhinged' Door says, "Dex"


    DEAD: Oliver 'Unhinged' Door says, "ahelp time"


    DEAD: Oliver 'Unhinged' Door says, "ur being dragged"


    DEAD: Garret 'Dex' Dalheart says, "why"


    DEAD: Oliver 'Unhinged' Door says, "to be hidden"


    DEAD: Garret 'Dex' Dalheart says, "oh"

    These are unedited copy and pastes, cut down for usefulness, and I would prefer logs be pulled.

    How you would punish the accused:
    Whatever staff agrees is right, I will respect their decision whatever the outcome.

    I'm not that upset, just kinda felt cheated really, which is something I rarely feel in CM if I'm being honest.

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    We've been getting similar ahelps with the same/similar situations and we would have different views about it. This was ruled IC in the meeting we had earlier due to it being hard to enforce and devs are working on a fix as acute said. We just have to be patient.
    Last edited by Sakuyoi; 10-16-2019 at 06:36 AM.

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    Alright, that's fair.

    Garret Dalheart reporting for Duty!
    Captain Howard Dalheart Captain of the USS Almayer Deceased
    Ckey: TheDexfiles
    Joined the fight 19 Dec 2017


    Current Record holder for most dead in a single OB at 25
    Sorry mates

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    Yep it sucks but it is IC issue for now. It was OOC for a while but it's hard to enforce/invstigate, so for now we're just waiting for devs to make a gameplay fix while it's IC.
    Former staff, also former Synthetic senator.

    Now just a shitposter and lurker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcuteCircle View Post
    Yep it sucks but it is IC issue for now. It was OOC for a while but it's hard to enforce/invstigate, so for now we're just waiting for devs to make a gameplay fix while it's IC.
    Well thanks, it's was just kinda lame to be hidden.

    I was just really confused by the IC Auto response since I was dead.

    Garret Dalheart reporting for Duty!
    Captain Howard Dalheart Captain of the USS Almayer Deceased
    Ckey: TheDexfiles
    Joined the fight 19 Dec 2017


    Current Record holder for most dead in a single OB at 25
    Sorry mates

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    IC response is used whenever issue is IC and not OOC. It's just kinda outdated on the marine law thing, but the first part of the response is still correct.

    Are you retreating this report?
    Former staff, also former Synthetic senator.

    Now just a shitposter and lurker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcuteCircle View Post
    IC response is used whenever issue is IC and not OOC. It's just kinda outdated on the marine law thing, but the first part of the response is still correct.

    Are you retreating this report?
    Yes please I would like to withdraw this report.

    I feel silly for making it lol

    Garret Dalheart reporting for Duty!
    Captain Howard Dalheart Captain of the USS Almayer Deceased
    Ckey: TheDexfiles
    Joined the fight 19 Dec 2017


    Current Record holder for most dead in a single OB at 25
    Sorry mates

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    Resolved - report withdrawn
    Former staff, also former Synthetic senator.

    Now just a shitposter and lurker.

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