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    Mevennos - Commander Application

    Commander Whitelist Application
    Byond ID?
    Mevennos

    Player Name You Use Most?
    Kyleigh Kendall

    Make a list of links to all of your applications and (job)ban appeals, including whitelist and staff apps, within the last year. Also, provide "Ban reason; Verdict" beside each (job)ban link
    None so far!

    Have you received any ban within the last month? How long was it and what for?
    Nope!

    Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
    Yes

    How do you view the tool of Battlefield Execution to be used? What circumstances do you think it would be necessary to BE a member of the crew? Where do you think the Battlefield Execution Mechanic Differs from regular Execution and why?
    My character perceives the value of the lives of her subordinates to be extremely high. Thus, the BE tool to Kyleigh is an absolute last resort solution to an immediate threat to other crew members, the integrity of the ship, or the chain of command. Any individual(s) who can be subdued and confined by Military Police will be. A Battlefield Execution from Kyleigh would require a threat greater than MP could deal with in a reasonable fashion or amount of time.

    To give an example of when I would deem it necessary to BE someone: I have permitted a Marine charged with manslaughter an audience in CIC under MP escort to hear him out. I have decided to hear him out in CIC because my XO is groundside or absent, and I do not wish to leave the CIC in the hands of a Lieutenant. For whatever reason, the MP presents them uncuffed and unsearched. In the middle of our discussion, he knocks the MP over, pulls out his flamethrower and lights the MP on fire. His next course of action would be pretty obvious, and with no other MPs available and no other way to subdue them, I would be forced to BE the Marine.

    The difference between Execution and Battlefield Execution is subtle, but very important in my opinion. Regular execution underlines the consequences for capital crimes against Military Law, and publicly states that those who do not adhere will be dealt with accordingly. To me, it is a statement. Battlefield Execution is a swift and decisive means to end an immediate and nearly out of control threat to the round or chain of command. It is a quickdraw punishment for the sake of preservation.

    How will your Commanding Officer run his/her ship? Provide a detailed explanation on how he would handle situations that might commonly occur such as, a insubordinate Req, Engineering, MP, or Command Staff
    The lives of the Marines are the most important thing to Kyleigh. She will not order reckless charges into enemy lines, but will instead offer a slow and deliberate approach to the enemy that will minimize casualties. I will likely enforce readbacks on all CAS and OB information to ensure accuracy and that no friendly fire occurs as a result of these tools, even if it reduces their effectiveness against the enemy. This is not to say that Kyleigh would not take the initiative and be aggressive when necessary.

    Kyleigh would likely try to sound out insubordinate personnel first before anything. No arrests or anything, just a quick chat to see what's wrong. Maybe they're having a bad day or their wife just divorced them and they need a little pep talk. People are more than mere machines, and need the necessary care and affection to do their jobs well. Kyleigh believes her job is to be a leader, not a dictator and is convinced that talking is just as effective as brute force, if not more so. Arrests would only be issued if they were continually insubordinate, or if they had opened hostilities upon Kyleigh or other parts of the crew. Is Delta rioting again over an MP making a justified arrest? She would likely give in and pardon the Marine in question to get the ship back on track as soon as possible. She lets go of any delusions of a sense of superiority, and can make compromises to keep things moving as they should be. She would be friendly to every Marine, and would do her best to make every Marine feel acknowledged and appreciated. Even PVT Howard, that guy nobody likes.

    What do you think is the job of a Commander?
    The role of the CO is to provide top level direction to the Marine forces and ensure a swift and decisive victory. This means acting as a leader that inspires faith in his/her subordinates that you can get the job done, and that you know what you're doing. This, to me, means acting with confidence regardless of the level of confidence actually experienced by the person in the bubble, as any lack of confidence will be felt strongly as the orders trickle down. As well as acting with the highest degree of care and attentiveness to the scenario unfolding whilst keeping the ramifications of every order in mind, and projecting those consequences into the future.

    Furthermore, the CO is responsible for maintaining discipline among the ranks of the Marine forces by enforcing Marine Law to prevent griefing, as well as to provide an enjoyable avenue for events to be carried out. The CO has a lot on his/her plate at any given moment but their decisions are the most critical, and their actions directly trickle down to affect the rounds of literally everybody else. Essentially, the CO controls the flow of the round both directly and indirectly. Through the use of troop movements all the way to letting that infected monkey burst in containment, they shape and mold each round to make it unique as no one else aboard the Almayer has the level of authority to influence events like they can. To sum it up, a CO's job is to help craft the story that the round is telling, one decision at a time.

    As a player what do you think could be added for Commanding Officer to benefit the role?
    I know it’s been stated by Devs that it won’t be added, but I think an overwatch console in the bubble that could tap into the helmet cams of all non-squad crew would be great, personally.

    What do you think you could contribute by being whitelisted?
    I hope to add more diversity to the pool of Commanding Officers. Frankly, I think diversity is what COs lack most as I feel the majority of players gravitate towards the 'old, gruff, "do anything to win", strict on rules' archetype. I want to give way to a new wave of interesting rounds that involves a lot of player-driven RP and decision making.

    I will not Battlefield Execute an individual who refuses to deploy. Instead, I will invite them to CIC to discuss why they feel the way they do, and try to convince them to deploy. I want to be a forgiving CO that can accept the mistakes of others, and encourages everyone to do their best. I want winning to be second to preserving life in my CO's list of priorities. I will not make threats against potential mutinies, but instead try to talk it out and find a common solution. Not every CO needs to be an absolute autocrat.

    But most of all, I want to be enjoyable. I'd never neglect the groundside operation, as that's a source of fun for many players, but often times there's a great degree of opportunity for shipside fun as well. And I will not neglect this either. In my opinion, this is where the real meat of the round grows and evolves, and I will do what I can to encourage people to get involved and experience a round that is both enjoyable and memorable.

    Your story (potential topics listed below)
    Do you understand that you cannot advertise your application on any public platform for votes. Do you also understand you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes

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    Active and good at commanding. +1 good luck.

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    Shame no one has commented here yet, anyway, you're a good leader, you know how the chain of command and CIC works in general. You might be a little bit on the unknown side playerwise but I feel like whitelisting you is a great opportunity for other people to meet Kyleigh. You certainly have the roleplay skills to handle this role well, proved by several interactions we've had. Your applications has some effort put into it and I believe further questions and answers would improve your chances.

    Question: During briefing, a huge fight ensued. Both delta and charlie are in a huge fight, irrelevant who started it and why, there is only one MP that is already out of flashbangs and any other means of stopping a mass amount of people. The briefing flasher is on a cooldown and doesn't seem it works as a deterrent, as people still keep fighting and shaking each other up and even bringing the fight elsewhere. There are reports of knives and even shots fired with a supressor. How do you handle this situation? If you don't manage to break up the fight, what would you announce and how would you deal with possible deployment?

    This is a very realistic situation that has already happened once and how you as a commander handles it means a lot.

    It's up to you if you'll answer the question given. This is +1 for me. Hopefully Council will not prolong this WL because you truly deserved it.

    *salute, captain!

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    I'm gonna start with your story because I think it's both real good and also does a good job of explaining your character's niche. First and foremost I think that the thought and creative energy put into your story is indicative of a player more than willing to bring some HRP energy to the role, and your use of the word "attrit" is certainly proof that you can speak English! Especially given the fact that the forum spell check says that word doesn't exist.

    It also does, in my opinion, a better job of explaining the niche of your character than the question on the application, which is absolutely 100% a good thing. As funny as I think hardass COs are, an overly sympathetic one would certainly be nice to see occasionally.

    I'll lead this into what I've seen of you in gameplay, and you already do a very good job of playing this archetype even while playing Commander. Furthermore, given that I haven't played a huge number of rounds recently, it's impressive that you've been CO or in the CIC for such a large chunk of them! So I have no doubt that you are familiar with the mechanics. You keep RP in mind and treat the setting of the game with respect - something which is very important for a CO. I don't see your prospective CO's actions breaking immersion any time soon and honestly that's the biggest concern with COs and the reason for the whitelist, in my humble opinion.

    Furthermore, you're by this point a long time player, so I have no doubt that you've got non-CIC game mechanics on lockdown. You aren't a noob, so that is good.

    In summary, your story very well explains the type of character you want to play, that archetype is something you already show you are capable of playing well when you play Commander, it is not another gruff guy Captain, and you are experienced enough and familiar enough with CM to know all of the necessary mechanical requirements.

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    I have already had first hand experience of the player as an XO under me as a CO as well as interact in multiple occasions.

    They have a pretty good grip on command roles and I believe they have the skill to carry the responsibility of leading a round and all the competences that come with it. It's not often you get to have such players.

    On another note this is one of the most well written apps I have seen around.

    So for me there's just one question left. How much do you know about the Marine Law, SOP, rules and how the CO stands in the middle of those? And how much experience do you have in this regard? Cause you're going to need to know these things to stay out of trouble. Just some word of advice.

    And as a player they're one of the most friendly and charismatic, and quite fun to interact with.

    So, it's a solid +1 from me. Good luck and make yourself proud.

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    I've played with you a ton during my Captain games and to further elaborate on that you've even gone to the extent to message me after games for criticism to improve on the command role.

    I can safely say that a lot of the games that I have won while you were my XO were because you were extremely competent and gave the game your full attention all the time which is something even I struggle to do.

    You've led the operation for me, and have handled shipside issues. Honestly I feel like this application was almost a little late with how much experience you have lol.

    Hard +1 from me! Can't wait to see you get your whitelist.
    Elena 'Tofu' Mei
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    First, I'd like to say that the amount of support my app has received in such a short amount of time is truly flattering. I am grateful for everyone's kind and supportive words, and I'm glad that many of you are pleased with the experiences you've had with me while I learned Command. I hope I can continue to offer positive experiences to the community.

    Now, to answer the questions that have been asked so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enyonggg View Post
    Question: During briefing, a huge fight ensued. Both delta and charlie are in a huge fight, irrelevant who started it and why, there is only one MP that is already out of flashbangs and any other means of stopping a mass amount of people. The briefing flasher is on a cooldown and doesn't seem it works as a deterrent, as people still keep fighting and shaking each other up and even bringing the fight elsewhere. There are reports of knives and even shots fired with a supressor. How do you handle this situation? If you don't manage to break up the fight, what would you announce and how would you deal with possible deployment?

    So, if it was primarily Charlie/Delta duking it out, the first thing I'd do is announce that Briefing will be held in the Hangar today. Thus, all the well-behaved Marines naturally move to the Hangar while those caught up in shooting each other keep doing so near Briefing. This would serve multiple purposes in my eyes. Firstly, it allows everyone an out from the area, even the Charlie/Delta members who don't want to take part. Second, it limits the capability for the shenanigans to spread further and encompass more people, and makes managing the situation much more doable. Fewer people in the Briefing, fewer people to get caught in the crossfire.

    With only one MP, no flashbangs, and the briefing room buzzer being a useless deterrent, I wouldn't have much in the way of capability to stop Charlie/Delta without inciting a full scale mutiny anyway. I'd deputize all available SO's and ask them to bring dead marines to medbay where I'd instruct the Doctors to calm them down with the assistance of loyal Medics. I would, of course, do what I could by way of announcements saying things like 'save your hate for the enemy', and getting people to relax when they are inevitably taken to medbay. Hopefully by talking them down one by one the shenanigans could be dealt with and the round could start in earnest. My overall strategy would be similar to dealing with an onboard fire. Compartmentalize to limit the spread, and deal with it little by little. No one would be arrested, as this would likely spark the shenanigans once again, and I'd keep Charlie/Delta separated as much as reasonably possible when the situation could be resolved. If things simply were not deescalating, I would fire a shot from my Mateba into the wall to underline the behavior would not be tolerated for much longer. And pray this doesn't start a mutiny and helps quell the shenanigans. If that failed, I would utilize the BE tool, and cite them as a threat to the operation and the integrity of the ship plus its crew.

    But to be completely honest, this scenario sounds like it stretches into admin intervention territory, with some people possibly getting OOC consequences. I've seen it happen on multiple occassions where Delta riots over something MPs are doing usually, and it quickly gets smacked down by MOOC. But with the limitations imposed on the given scenario, that's how my CO would react to the situation ICly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arbs View Post
    So for me there's just one question left. How much do you know about the Marine Law, SOP, rules and how the CO stands in the middle of those? And how much experience do you have in this regard?
    I won't sugar coat this one. This is easily my biggest concerns as a CO as I've identified this as the weakest part of my understanding. That's not to say I lack understanding or familiarity, but more to say that compared to everything else this is my shortcoming. For example, I'm aware that the CO has the right to alter brig timers, pardon non-capital crimes, and the CO may grant access to any part of the ship on ID cards (all with some limitations/an asterisk or two attached). Overall, I'd say on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the highest level of understanding, mine would be approximately a 7, maybe pushing a 7.5 currently. I don't know everything, and I won't claim to.

    BUT I will say that because I've identified this as my weakest area, I play Command with both the ML and SOP pages of the wiki open at all times and refer to them if I'm ever in doubt. If the wiki does not offer the solution to the issue I'm facing in game and I'm still in doubt, I have no issue ahelping before making a call IG. Furthermore, I read these pages out of game occasionally to try and further grow my understanding and memorize them. I've also taken to playing MP sometimes to help improve my understanding of ML while taking notes of what the CO can and cannot do.

    As for how much experience I have.. I would say it's limited to be honest. Most rounds the CO handles things shipside while I primarily focus on the ground operation. However, I do have some experience. In one instance, it was determined that an MP was accepting bribes from the CL to be his personal bodyguard. There was no CO awake at the time, and the CMP had built a compelling and damning case against the MP in question. I notified HC via fax and together with the CMP, authorized the arrest of both the MP and CL. The CMP (if memory serves me well) charged the MP with Desertion, and the CL with disorderly conduct. I personally disagreed with the Desertion charge, instead advocating for neglect of duty, but knew the CMP has authority over the XO when it came to ML. The CMP urged strongly for an execution on the MP, but needing both CMP and XO authorization in the absence of a CO, and in keeping with my character, I declined to authorize an execution on the MP. Instead he was permanently confined until 'a proper investigation' could be conducted.

    I hope this adequately answered your question.

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    What I was going to say for this application has already been said. I've observed a lot of your games primarily due to the fact that I have terrible luck rolling survivor so I just ghost.

    +1, keep up the good work as an XO.

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    I want to echo SwirlyKins’ post in that Kyleigh is competent in all respects as an XO. They’re decisive in their actions and communicate effectively through the round. After watching them as XO multiple times, both as Xeno and Marine, I fully believe they’d make a good CO.

    +1.

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    Great application, easy +1

    Good luck
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