Preface:
This will be a bit long as I usually try tot be complete.
Also there will be examples some of you might have been in.
There is no reason to start discussions here about a specific case.
This is purely about rank, chain of command andere the issues with communication.
Problems:
- People seem tot misunderstand who can order who (nog even considering lawfull or not)
- Everyone and his mom contacts the XO CO skipping people like SO CMP RO CMO
- XO CO accept all these plights begin tot meddle and want stuff resolved fast (they do not delegate) causing issues.
TL;DR solutions:
- XO CO should send issues over to the departement head.
- If the person that brought forth the issue could contact that head XO CO should also say stop bothering me unless it is important.
- People should learn to contact their departement heads and to be frank not RP buddy with XO CO for "immunity". This is a military chain of command.
- Departement heads should tell XO CO to (respectfully) stop half ass messing with their departement.
- If the meddleing caused too many issues CMP should be contacted, he should warn them for Neglect of duty even in case of CO and if it continues arrest or contact high command depending on who.
Examples:
Generalized examples
- CMO is te head of medical andere research including any possible xeno breeding or drugs being made.
All too often the CO is just asked directly.
Licht issue why have a CMO even? CO XO can overrule but he is just ignored.
- CT refuses service marine goes to SO (and I'm being kind here have seen plenty of direct CO XO contact)
MP's are ordered to arrest for NOD. So we head in state charge NOD no RO in sight, have people asking why NOD pushing blocking. Maybe even resisting arrest.
So now we have 1 or more CT in cell. And find out said marine was asking a item out of stock or ordered by RO not to be given out.
This is legal there was no crime committed. But even then i need to make the initial arrest (see spoiler) and resisting arrest and interference with arrest does not get removed if old crime is deemed innocent.
Spoiler:
So now should I arrest the officer? How about adding a NOD that can be done to any officer.
Solution:
Contact the RO to look into the matter it is his department. That was all!
Don't like him not giving out HEFAs to PVT or PFC? Only then should you inform XO or if not available CO.
Big detailed example:
As a dirty MP I notice a researcher giving out as he calls it 'Space drugs' even offering me one. He drops the pill I ask space drugs? He confirms.
This is in requisitions he was let in. I proceed by ordering him to the ground state he is under arrest for Neglect of duty. He doesn't go to ground but asks why NOD I tell him I'll explain in detail while in brig but because he offered me space drugs. I have no obligation to explain and make a law discussion there. He begins to move to the exit but has no access. He moves to flaps and that's where I stun him. Several CTs begin questioning me a MP is there too and the researcher contacts the XO.
Now trying to get the researcher to brig 2 marines keep watch one blocks but moves away as the second MP comes into sight the MP seems to doubt if he wants to stop me or not blocks me but then gives me passage. But him being there scared off the marines but a CMO begins to question me. The XO demands I explain myself I ignore her for now as I'm watching the situation and have a stunbaton now ready in case the marines or MP CMO did interfere.
I am inside the brig mind you this all is required => brig only!
The XO gives me ultimatums explain or researcher will be appealed on principle. Researcher still edging on the XO asking me to explain not even in cell. (Appeals are made once you are in the cell) I try to give the XO the awnser NOD is the Charge let me first explain and process the researcher. Before explaining to you several times. She would not relent. So after telling her that a few times I continue to strip and detain the researcher. Not even adding time for resisting minimal NOD time. I decide to keep the radio off. As it has been used to escalate. The researcher clearly just wants the XO to step in. It is fully in my right. I again explain to XO to wait I need to tell the researcher what's up first yes she non stop kept spamming me. Because I cannot type in multiple channels and directed to multiple people at once but I am dealing with 2 and a MP that is meddling the researcher had time to a help about radio. Now I have another person to awnser. Who after a short reply asks me to copy paste all the responses the researcher gave over radio!
Mind you I haven't been able to explain researcher his right to appeal or the detail why NOD. Half been arguing with XO a MP stepped in to give radio to the one I am processing. And now a ahelp too!
In the end the space drugs where not actually space drugs bad RP on researcher. Still he wasn't allowed to give them out was even told not to by XO. So he was testing (read giving out like cookies) them unauthorized on anyone who would take one.
Oh and we have a CMP who is by rank in things concerning ML above the XO! And he is my head not the XO.
I'll let the ahelp be as it is though my character was fully in ML to deny the radio, my character believed it was abused. This is pure IC and not a OOC rule.
Solution is simple:
- XO tell the CMP to look into it. Also know the CMP is the ONLY head ABOVE you when its about ML. No other head is above you.
- MP tell the CMP if you believe I made mistakes he is our head.
- CT marines CMO tell the CMP, contact someone to ask the CMP
- CMP tell everyone to shut it you will look into it!
Being a MP main I never feel any hate to anyone even rubbing Chloe the wrong way it is this RP I like. How can I uphold the law with as least as possible force needed. Convince people to do stuff different if they are chuckle fucks. This challenge I love. But this is the first time a issue actually made me wonder hmmm what now? Arrest the XO? Complaint about the staff that made a mistake in my eyes? Arrest anyone who blocked me? Next time perhaps add the resist 25 mins total so people fear resisting?
Chain of command, know your rank and position, delegate.
A other pool of examples:
- God mode XO bringing flood lights (even asking a mp to carry them to DS) doing medical and req prep work to give marines more stuff. Delegate you have staff in every department. Also uncalled for floodlights because they can't be destroyed meta much?
- CMP ordering req for stuff like attachies. Chain of command
Spoiler:
- Cross department orders. No a CE CMP cannot order a SL MP or combat medic for anything just because higher rank.
MPs are there for security not dragging floodlights or xeno bodies. A SL is not your personal vend me squad attachments goon.
Order a MP to guard fine but the MP can cross reference to the CMP if its OK.
- Contact your own head not everything to the CO. He should be free to roam and work with important issues. Instead of first come first serve oops a big issue is now out of control and too late.
What do you guys think should heads retake the control?