Staff Report
Your BYOND Key Solidfury7
Date of Incident February 9, 2020
Your Character Name? William 'Mengele' Crimson
Their BYOND Key VortexGaming
Approximate time and date of the incident Around 13:00 US Central (Around 18:50 GMT)
Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken 2. Investigate the situation
3. Determine the seriousness of the issue
5. Determine the punishment.
(These were done to an extent but not to the standard I think required)
Description of the incident I will first start with adding the ban note, for context.
Reason: Jobbaned from MP/CMP for arresting a marine for hooliganism and resisting arrest, arrested another marine for "intefering with an arrest" who was simply being shoved into him in a crowd. Original marine got a 5 minute sentence while the interfering with an arrest marine got 25 minutes. Known for being an excessive hardass and constantly bordering marine law in the past. This time he is bordering grieifing rules using CMP..
During this round, I was banned by VortexGaming for detaining someone who believed my application of marine law was one of abuse.
I am writing this appeal to contest this.
During this situation, I came across a marine who was commit the crime of Hooliganism and arrest, I observed the occuring and went in to assist, detaining someone who was interfering with this arrest by shaking the suspect up.
This situation was not contested by the Trial Moderator in question.
However, during the follow up, while the two MPs were dragging away the prisoners, a marine specifically walked in to one of the arresting MPs, however this was not the every day bumping that can occur and does occur,
This is interfering equivelant of saying "The M Word", Delta often does this as a way to avoid arrests, however this case was an obviously blatent attempt to free the marine with the near constant walking pushing)
to the point where I actually step in and stun them, the other MPs proceed while I deal with the marine.
After arresting him, the other MP who is unaware I have detained him, requests his arrest for interfering.
Now, here is the specific charge.
Interfering with an arrest
To disrupt or interfere with a lawful arrest done by the military police.
Same punishment as accused
Permanent confinement
Now, I believe what VortexGaming has taken issue with, is that the fact I generally punish interfering with arrest with 1.5x - 2x sentencing, which is permitted within marine law, as the crime doesnt really have a sliding scale like most other crimes. This round in question, these suspects who were decided to interfere with an arrest,
which had both been confirmed by myself, and the MP who was interfered with as being intentional. These marines actions, caused Delta to do the classic "Shall we mutiny", resulting in marines breaking in to the brig, breaking in to the MP armory and
causing the ship to be elevated to the red alert.
At this stage I was boinked and asked why detained said individuals, I explained they broke the Interfering with arrest rules, and that the Trial Moderator in question should perhaps look in to the actions of the two interferees, rather than myself.
During dealing with these boinks, the officer places the original hooliganism arrested person (for hooliganism ) in the brig and gives them 5 minutes, rather than the 15 they should have been given, when questioned, the MP said they didnt want to watch the prisoner. Considering resisting arrest is an optional charge, I believed that it would be iffy to add the charge on to the timer, as that is the only time you can technically alter timers to have more time (If the arrest is incorrect,eg, wrong charge)
However, the two other individuals were still going to have the assigned time for the crimes involved, however with the esculating situation, the timers were amended to be 1.6x the original charge. Which is, fair considering the context of the situation, and the fact that their actions had caused a whole lot of drama. This is why Assault with deadly has a sliding scale, someone who gets shot once during a fight, does not get the same time as someone who tries to murder the CE. Context is king in these cases.
Now, one of my main concerns with this,is the fact that within my note, the note shows that this situation was not investigated remotely well enough, and it has some concerning content.
Number one, the note claims that the interferer was being pushed by a crowd, this is, quite blatently false, the individual was on his own, specifically pushing in to the MP. The marine in question stated in his appeal that he tried to walk around him and that it was an accidental bump, he mentioned nothing about a crowd (Because there wasnt one,) this would have been noticable if logs were examined, or further investigation was made.
Two, the note does not mention the specific rule I have broken in this case, nor was I told over PMs, I am assuming from the note that it is Rule 4, which quite blatently doesnt fit the bill, as I had relevant roleplay reasons(Due to the brig break ins, armory break ins and talks of mutiny)
Three - During the start of the conversation, I specifically mentioned that the two individuals who interefered with the arrest had broken server rules, however, before the ban was placed, I asked VortexGaming if any punishment had been applied to them, he informed me No, and asked me if I could provide names, this was a huge red flag for me, as It showed he had not investigated the situation suffeciently, especially because this whole situation was caused by the two interferees.
Four - One thing I dislike is the fact that he references my character being a "hard-arse" in a way that implies it in a negative connotation, this who know my correct, know that I am by the book, I am fair but I ALWAYS follow the law, at all costs. The only time I can honestly say I've breached that, was recently during an mini-event (of sorts) which resulted in the CMP executing me, and I was saved by the CL and marines, and I returned to the brig in disguise to free one of the CTs who saved me, before realising I wouldnt have the chance to do so without killing the CMP, who executed me around an hour earlier. The whole situation was a rare little thing, which had amazing roleplay, the only issue was I didnt ahelp prior.
This note was used against me to paint a supposed history of not following marine law, which, many staff, even those which arent too fond of my character, will know is laughable, he is based around being by the book, to a /fault/,
So, overall.
I got job-banned for following marine law and applying a timer which wasnt minimum, because the context of the situation. And because a trial moderator who did not witness the situation unfold, nor took in to account the unrest the crime was caused(red alert, calls for mutiny, breakins to brig and brig armory)
Yes, job-banned for not applying minimum sentencing, that is as silly as it sounds.
Evidence Logs from the Military Police requesting one of the interfering marine (Pushing guy) to be arrested for interfering with arrest
PMs between staff and players involved
How you would punish the accused I don't think he did this maliciously, although it did concern me he used my characters IC reputation and RP style as "evidence"
I'd probably just giving him the rundown through Marine Law and how to handle marine law ahelps.
Oh and removal of the note.