Kerek - Predator Honor Code

[Sinthell]

Player Report

Your Byond ID?

Sinthell

Date of Incident

March 20, 2020

Your Character Name?

Reene Rivera

Accused Byond Key(if known):

ChainsawMullet,Kerek and Quickload

Accused Character Name

unknown

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)

central US- 5.25

What rule(s) were broken:

Predator Honor Code

Description of the incident:

To sum it up, out of nowhere three preds decided to tackle me( they even used their plasma gun I think), cuff and send to their ship to act as gladiator. After I refused(I stayed mute), they infected and sent me planetside naked and cuffed. This happened when xenos were about to launch DS2, so I had no chance to do anythig beside dying. From my point of view this is nothing but a grief. They did not mark me as their prey, no warnings, just three preds removing me from this round for no reason.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

Logs.

How you would punish the accused:

removal of predator whitelists.

[50RemAndCounting]

Will pull logs later.

[ChainsawMullet]

To sum it up, out of nowhere three preds decided to tackle me

two*

( they even used their plasma gun I think),

plasma caster*

cuff and send to their ship to act as gladiator. After I refused(I stayed mute),

Staying mute is not refusal, at worst it's mute acceptance.

they infected and sent me planetside naked and cuffed.

Only one pred did this (not me), the other two were not consulted or told this was happening to you.

This happened when xenos were about to launch DS2, so I had no chance to do anythig beside dying.

We're not omniscient, from what we saw the round was going to continue at a stalemate for a while. We only get told xenos have taken the LZ when the queen launches the ship.

From my point of view this is nothing but a grief. They did not mark me as their prey, no warnings, just three preds removing me from this round for no reason.

Marks don't show to non-preds, so you would not have been warned even if we HAD. Also, you admit we had a reason - we wanted to use you as a gladiator. Additionally, you would've died with the rest of the marines even if we HAD left you planetside, so overall the result comes out the same. If you hadn't pretended to be AFK, the other pred might not have even done what he did, also.

How you would punish the accused:

removal of predator whitelists.

Funny joke.

[Sinthell]

I made this report because few months ago something like that happened to me, but predator released me stating in LOOC that this is against the rules. And no I dont think that this report or proposed punishment is a joke.

[QuickLoad]

Greetings Sinthell

What Chainsaw says is accurate to the situation.
We presumed you were SSD, I was outfitting Kellen inside of the pit.
the other predator dragged you off and had you hugged at some point.
To my knowledge, neither of us were really consulted about the whole infection thing, nor were we informed of the followup.
Infact, I was under the impression you were inside of a cell waiting to burst or something. Didn't get to check cause

Also to help you clarify, AFAIK there's no such thing as AFK or SSD to refuse a fight. Even if there was it'd be against the rules to metagame Yautja guidelines.
Refusing something like say, a duel, is an option given by some(probably a few) predators such as myself when it comes down to it. It's not something mandatory.

[forest2001]

I've glanced over the logs.
Chainsaw and Quickload captured you.
Kerek grabbed you by the neck and threw you, I presume onto the teleporter, and potentially into the Xenomorph egg however I cannot confirm the latter.

[50RemAndCounting]

Logs:

Derken'ka grabbing Reene:

Garook grabbing Reene

Rhuu grabbing Reene

These are the entirety of attack logs involving all of the mentioned parties. No plasma caster hit logs were found.

Here is also the "conversation" between Renee and the Yautjas regarding Renee's capture and Yautja's attempt to get him to do gladiatorial battle.

[QuickLoad]

Your last set of logs has nothing to do with Renee. As you can see by the timestamp, the 'really guys fuck you' is in cargo when Renee is disarmed.

The conversation even includes "Kellen", most of our diolauge was directed at Kellen, Renee was long gone elsewhere by now when he was dragged away.
Check the timestamps.

Logs:

Here is also the "conversation" between Renee and the Yautjas regarding Renee's capture and Yautja's attempt to get him to do gladiatorial battle.

[05:14:28]SAY: Reene Rivera: Really guys fuck you (CKEY: Sinthell) (JOB: )
this being planetside

[05:15:12]SAY: Yautja Translator/kerek : 5hut up 00m@n b3f0r3 1 br3@k y0ur j@w.
this was 99% likely kerek with kellen, definitely do not recall hearing this

[05:15:29]SAY: Yautja Translator/chainsawmullet : W3'r3 g01ng 50m3wh3r3 3nj0y@b13...
this is chainsaw and myself recalling back to the ship

[05:15:49]SAY: Yautja Translator/kerek : Wh@t d1d 1 5@y?
[05:16:58]SAY: Yautja Translator/kerek : B3h@v3 0r y0u w111 b3 1n @ w0r1d 0f p@1n.
[05:17:06]SAY: Yautja Translator/kerek : Und3r5t@nd?
again have no recollection of this, must've been said just before we entered the room or something; not that it matters, just providing the context of my perspective

[05:17:16]SAY: Yautja Translator/quickload : K3113n.
[05:17:38]SAY: Yautja Translator/quickload : 1f y0u 11v3 thr0ugh y0ur du31, y0u w111 b3 @b13 t0 13@v3.
[05:18:03]SAY: Yautja Translator/quickload : Und3r5t@nd?
one of the preds, i forgot which, told me to inform kellen that if they lived they would be returned, something along those lines.

[05:18:11]SAY: Yautja Translator/chainsawmullet : G3t dr3553d
this was directed at renee, there was lots of talk about SSD here but you only included the translation, it would make more sense if you included the yautja language too

[05:21:02]SAY: Yautja Translator/kerek : F1ght 0n th31r r0@r, ch@mp10n.
[05:21:02]SAY: Yautja Translator/chainsawmullet : B3g1n 0n my r0@r.
[05:21:07]SAY: Yautja Translator/chainsawmullet : @r3 y0u b0th r3@dy?
[05:21:10]SAY: Yautja Translator/quickload : F1ght t0 th3 d3@th, th3 0n3 wh0m 5t@nd5 v1ct0r10u5 @nd br3@th1ng 5h@11 11v3.
this is ofc, the fight between kerek and kellen

the logs would be much more complete if you included the yautja language, hopefully my context provides.. context to the situation with your logs.

All of that is irrelevant though imho, aren't we discussing Renee going SSD, being infected and cuffed, etc. ??

[Survivor]

This will soon be discussed by the Council.

[RobBrown4PM]

The council has been looking into this and has issued the following decrees:

Chainsaw and Quickload are being removed from this report

and

Time will be given for Kerek to respond to this report.