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    Corbe - Commander Application

    Commander Whitelist Application
    Byond ID?
    Corbe

    Player Name You Use Most?
    Pat 'Croc' Bateman

    Make a list of links to all of your applications and (job)ban appeals, including whitelist and staff apps, within the last year. Also, provide "Ban reason; Verdict" beside each (job)ban link
    None.

    Have you received any ban within the last month? How long was it and what for?
    None.

    Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
    Yes

    How do you view the tool of Battlefield Execution to be used? What circumstances do you think it would be necessary to BE a member of the crew? Where do you think the Battlefield Execution Mechanic Differs from regular Execution and why?
    Insidious action such as mutiny, disobeying vital orders (A round winning, necessary, high IQ push is called and the SL refuses to do it) or murder to another marine. Same thing similar as before, if a engineer or req guy tries to purposely sabotage the operation by damaging the engine. BE separates from regular execution in the sense that it's a sudden decision by the commander to maintain order, rather than a regular punishment for a crime. The role of the BE is not for an obscure punishment and should be left for serious matters, or not used at all.

    I generally find the be to be a silly tool though. Normally when a commander uses it comes off as a comedic effect, while not necessarily an issue, it’s not the intended purpose. There are much better ways to handle it, and I general believe that the way MP’s imprison someone is effective. I have been imprisoned myself a few times and sitting there for 15 to 20 minutes is never an enjoyable experience.

    How will your Commanding Officer run his/her ship? Provide a detailed explanation on how he would handle situations that might commonly occur such as, a insubordinate Req, Engineering, MP, or Command Staff
    Decentralization. Everything has its own role and everyone has their own job. Step in when someone is in a new role, they don't know how to do such as XO or SO to allow them to grow. Engineering, Req, and Marines all have sub leaders and know what to do. Insubordination is rarely a problem. If an MP is insubordinate you go to the CMP, same thing for engineering or Req. If a sub faction head is being a gremlin then you would go to the MPs. If it's the MP's gather the SL's, if everyone is insubordinate than you have somewhere along the way messed up.

    For specific examples:

    Req is insubordinate.
    There are multiple members of Req typically. If there’s not, we can have an SO take over. If a subordinate of the RSO is being insub, then we can have him handle it. If he cannot resolve it, you call the MP’s. If the RSO himself is being insub, then the MP’s will be called, and he can be replaced by another Req individual or an SO. We can take his dogtags to complete any task.

    Engineering,
    Engineering is a bit different. They are vital and not as easily replaced. If they are being insubordinate the key will be to figure out why. If it’s simply because a monkey decided to roll it and mess around, I would probably go to staff, or let play out depending on how damaging it was. It will be both a unique learning experience that could make a round more engaging. It’s best to handle these things ic’ly as much as possible. To handle it IC’ly, call the MPs. See if we can get another engineer to replace him. The XO can probably take over for him.

    MP
    While it’s technically against the rules for MP to be insub, it also creates a unique experience. Similar to the engineering situation. It would either become an OOC issue or the SL’s would be gathered and a potential fight for the ship would occur. If the MP was simply being insubordinate with no reason or development, it would obviously be against the rules and become an OOC issue.

    Command Staff
    Command Staff is the easiest. You either handle it in person or you call the MPs. If it’s something minor, it can be discussed, and they’ll probably fold. If a SO drops without permission, they’ll be radio’d to return. If they fail to return, they’ll be escorted back. If they simply start fighting with others, then they’ll be cuffed and given the appropriate amount of time. If they don’t want to complete a task, they may simply be busy and managing multiple things. I would then wait for a period of peace, chastise them for ignoring it, and move on.

    What do you think is the job of a Commander?
    To design the plan and oversee its execution. Rather than micromanage ground leaders his role is to deconflict issues between the different sub factions and supervise/refine the plan. The CO can either let the XO take charge, or he can handle it himself. I have been more impressed with proactive CO’s, but it’s important to let XOs develop.
    I typically prefer a more proactive CO because as an XO it leaves less to be assumed or taken over. Rather than suggest something, they have a key plan of action. It works best when the CO is keeping track and watching out for potential downfalls such as power going down, a gap in the lines, OB’s hitting a poor position, or marines not being reinforced with material properly. This is what it means for the CO to deconflict issues.

    As a player what do you think could be added for Commanding Officer to benefit the role?
    The ability to draw on the tacmap and take a picture of it for announcements. I used GYAZO as an XO or when I get thrown into command as an SO. It would be nice to draw and post your tacmap without having to screenshot it outside of the game.

    What do you think you could contribute by being whitelisted?
    I enjoy playing as SO and XO. It's very enjoyable to sit there on the screen, watch marines, and try and save them without being able to physically do anything. When you must manage multiple squads at once it gets hectic. I would hopefully contribute more enjoyment of the game. By supporting the different sub factions and deconflicting the issues that come up you let them enjoy their role to the greatest capability.

    Your story (potential topics listed below)
    https://www.docdroid.net/nyG1XLB/bateman-fitrep-pdf

    Wanted to do something unique, let me know if you want an expanded backstory. Took me a bit to put this together and figure out.

    Do you understand that you cannot advertise your application on any public platform for votes. Do you also understand you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes

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    I've never seen you in CIC roles myself (or at least don't remember enough), though it's most likely a timezone issue since my timezone is, uh, wildly out of sync. You've evidently played your fair share of SO and XO and know how the CIC actually works, so there's that under your belt.

    The app is good overall. Your story document, though, it doesn't really do a good job of actually describing who you actually are. Maybe flesh it out a bit more, make it less flavor text and more actual biography, I don't know, it's up to any others who read your application whether they wanna see more.

    The BE also should be taken pretty seriously in actual practice, though, because it's got the capability to save the operation if used correctly. You should never treat it as a spectacle or some kind of performance, even if it appears to be one.

    If we see you in command more, you can have more people base you on practical experience.

    Vote edited to NEUTRAL for now, I can’t reliably base on application alone. If I (or anyone else) sees you in command and you actually do well I'll be glad to shift to a positive vote.
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    I don't recall ever seeing you as my OW nor as a fellow SL on the battlefield.

    As Naut said it could just be timezones. It'd be helpful if you could say when you typically play either CIC or SL so I know when to hop on and watch ya in action.

    Neutral until I see you in action as I vote on in game interaction rather than these apps.

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    Havent seen you on CIC, the answers are quite good and the 'story' (its more of a document) its unique, which I appreciate even if it vaguely describes exactly how your character interacts with others, basically doesnt tell me a lot about their personality.

    You sound like you know what you are doing, but i'll keep my +1 till I spot you in game in a leadership based role.

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    I have seen Pat both in CIC and as an SL multiple times. Not only does he obey orders and listen to the chain of command but he is competent enough unlike most SOs. He stays awake, updates CIC on squad status, communicates with his unit, and is humble with the way he performs even accepting criticism. I have been active regularly for a few weeks and I have seen him a number of times and he has never failed in his role once or slipped up majorly in anyway.

    My only words would be to not be afraid to make use of the BE, it is a tool to maintain order. If you truly believe someone is being an issue and will not cease even if thrown into a cell do not hesitate to utilize it. The operation is your goal at all costs. Letting one problem incite further issues such as mutiny is better dealt with on the spot then in the long line of Marine Law.

    I believe he has what it takes to be a Captain. He is firm in his duties and understands also how to roleplay properly which is entirely expected in the role of CO at all times. He also is fully capable in leadership both in CIC and in the field. I have no doubt he he will rise to be a good Captain on the USS Almayer.

    +1


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    Pat's a really good player overall, I think he'd do good as command. I see him often enough to remember his name and that he does well at whatever role he has.

    The way he did his story shows he cares enough to try and come up with something new, which is one of the most important parts of playing a CO I'd say.

    +1 for sure

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    I know the player personally, and Corbe isn't really bad. Although it's true that he hasn't played Command enough for the Council or some WLs to judge--I can say he could be trusted with the role and it's responsibilities. As Pat, his personality is enjoyable, and even comical. And his leadership just as well.

    +1
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    Quoting works sort of strangely so I'll post my response without quoting anyone.

    Thanks for the feedback gents. I can definitely see the comments on a bit of a lacking backstory, however I figure it would be more enjoyable to read a concise, original, creation than another wall of text. Concerning visibility, I work a lot during the week, however this has sort of slowed with Corona. I normally get on in the evening or the weekends. This may explain the timezone differences.

    Thanks you for the +1's as well, I appreciate it.

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    I haven’t seen you much engagement in effectively leading the marines and relaying information/orders as SO or even XO neither have I found you to have the initiative or the will/determination to get yourself a victory for the marines as SO or XO again.

    By the way, you are competent but not really a people person, from what I've seen. One of the most headstrong and aggressive SLs I've ever seen, with an ego to match. Nice hair and Dumb name.

    I could see you being a very volatile CO, with potential to either blitz the operation given the right marines, or go into full meltdown if your CIC or ground complement doesn't get on board with what you want from them. That's just the impression I get, though - I haven't seen you enough as anything but an SL.

    All in all I don't dislike you and think you could, at the very least, offer something different to the blander flavour of XOs and COs we seem to be winding up with lately, even if a harsh and uncompromising approach to the role wouldn't be how I would choose to go about it. +1

    PS: There's always a big difference between SL's and being actual CO leading the entire Operation. You will realize it, not now but very soon when you keep rolling CO. Not gonna specify it because I wanna see it for yourself.

    Good luck!
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    Nice to see that a bunch of people believe you're fit to be CO and, since your app is pretty good, despite me not having seen you so far in actual CIC roles I don't have personal doubts about you getting the whitelist (though, admittedly I might just be jumping the bandwagon). Maybe try playing XO/SO a lot more so you can prepare yourself for the hardships of being in the role.

    Changing my vote to +1, good luck!
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