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    50remandcounting - Rule 4, Rule 16

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    WrongKeyo360

    Date of Incident
    May 4, 2020

    Your Character Name?
    Fabio 'Flan' Espinosa

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    50remandcounting

    Accused Character Name
    Sofia Racic

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    11:45(?)

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 4, Rule 16

    Description of the incident:
    I was BE'd by Sofia Racic for insulting her, telling her to "Fuck herself" after she insulted me, and my intellect after giving her a plan, which she also insulted me on that aswell. I was told to make a player report by dchat. PS* I was XO that round, and we were undergoing an Event that led to the ship to destroy itself.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    [N/A]

    How you would punish the accused:
    I'll leave it for the Council to decide.

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    Logs:

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    BE annoucement:

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    So, this was an event round where the entirety of the marine force was evicted from the Almayer and had to conduct the operation from the primary LZ we chose. We barely had enough time given to load ourselves and the most basic supplies on the alamo and leave just before the almayer blew up. We had to deal with complete chaos on our hands and I coordinated it via repeated announcements - I gave out the initial orders to be EVERYONE to help build up the FOB as quickly as they could, once that would be done most of the marines would scout out as one force.

    I also announced to warn everyone that because we have no brig or brigging facilities whatsoever and, since MPs would have been permanently busy either guarding the LZ base or escorting me, people threatening the operation at this very critical moment while the FOB was being built up would not have been tolerated.

    Subsequently to all of this, while helping cade up LZ, I noticed the XO kept interrupting me to complain that the marines are without orders and disorderly (despite me repeatedly announcing orders on what should everyone be doing) and insisted that we should work on executing his plan he had apparently prepared earlier already right this instant. Nevermind the fact that I suggested and ordered that nobody leaves the immediate LZ perimeter to ensure we have a proper base of operations before we continue on with the operation proper.

    Realizing that I should deal with this before the XO and SOs decided to do their own thing and undermine the operation further, I rushed to find him and had the discussion to him as seen in the logs above.
    I was about to explain to him that this plan is worthless to me because we're at a too much of a huge disadvantage to execute an ungarush to the hive location like that. One of the other reasons being that some squads, or elements thereof, apparently already decided to wander out in small groups and get picked off easily.

    At that point the XO decided to press the issue by lashing out and insulting me like so. Considering the previous interruptions I've mentioned, and that every single second was being precious to me to ensure we have a reasonable chance to fight instead of getting insta stomped. Because of this, and because of everything written above (namely the repeated interruptions which, again, took away precious time to deal with when I had already given every squad their orders), the XO obviously wanting to argue about the plan and not back down (based on him repeating to me to go fuck myself when asked), this had all lead me to conclude that the XO was indeed being a credible threat to my command, and, again, considering the outstanding and extreme time constraints I was dealing with (wasting time in a nonsensical argument instead of helping build cades or going fighting for example), and believing the XO would not have let this go and would have undermined the operation further, I opted to battlefield execute him.

    I kept the BE announcement very brief and stuck to reporting the fact of the matter, again, because of time issues in that round. XO was BEd because he insulted me and repeated the insult when I asked him if he wanted to repeat that. The underlying reasons why I felt this was an acceptable BE are as listed above.

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    I'm sorry, I wasn't helping? I was trying for both Marines and Civilians to use both dropship, and then you turned it down, then I try to organize the situation on the groundside, trying to place down a CIC and a medical bay for doctors, which you have not even mentioned in your excuse. It seems like you're trying to convince everyone that I've been useless thus far, and that I wasn't doing anything than just scratching my balls.

    Yes, I was pressured aswell as I wanted for this event to be made and that it succeded for Marines, I tried giving everyone on my vicinity orders to follow, aswell as Squad orders so that they know what their objective is, because a Marine without an objective is a Marine wasted towards a goal. This is why Xenos have attacked us so early on the FOB - our HQ.

    Although it may have seem more than rude to tell them a bad word, this is no reason to BE your second in command after you've made fun of them as shown in Logs, then just call their plan "Unga rush". My character is very straight forward, when I see bullshit, I call it. I saw Bullshit, I called it.

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    Like I've said, I've already worked on organizing the situation at that point. By announcing the orders I had announced. And dunno what do you mean by "placing down a cic and a medical bay for doctors", did an admin PM you to go pick suitable locations for them to build a micro medbay and micro cic using adminbuild? Because I had absolutely zero indication that any of that was happening. It wasn't until a long while after I BEd you that I was suddenly pmed by an admin and told "hey I built up some cic consoles at this and that location go check if they're properly set up". I didn't have any prior knowledge that this will happen. Which is why I said what I said.

    And the reason I vetoed your order to use the normandy was the same reason why I told you your plan sucked and that we were wasting precious time that could have been spent building cades or supporting our squads directly - so that a gang of runners and warriors doesn't jump us and murders the entirety of our support personnel , therefore screwing the round for us completely in merely a couple minutes.

    I don't have anything else to add besides that I consider this to be an extraordinary BE for an extraordinary situation. And that based on things you later said in dchat and Dreven who scolded me for the BE and apparently told you to player report me, your aim here was apparently to spark an argument intentionally which would habe removed us both from the round in its most critical moment in favour of some "quality roleplay", which made me feel I was even more justified in my decision to BE.

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    Just for testimony on the above, this is when I built the CIC module, no one was contacted prior.

    2020/05/04: [10:54:52]ADMIN: Forest2001/(Arthur Edwinson) has entered build mode.
    2020/05/04: [10:55:22]ADMIN: Forest2001/(Arthur Edwinson) spawned /obj/structure/machinery/computer/overwatch/almayer at (46,228,1)
    2020/05/04: [10:56:13]ADMIN: PM: Forest2001/(Arthur Edwinson)->50RemAndCounting/(Sofia Racic): Micro CIC north east part of the LZ
    2020/05/04: [10:56:24]ADMIN: PM: 50RemAndCounting/(Sofia Racic)->Forest2001/(Arthur Edwinson): thx
    2020/05/04: [10:57:05]ADMIN: PM: Forest2001/(Arthur Edwinson)->50RemAndCounting/(Sofia Racic): Make sure they work.

    I will also state there was a fair amount of egging in deadchat for a report to be made.
    Charles & Arthur Edwinson
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    was an MP during this round, can confirm shit was fucky, and although we were trying to work out a situation to make a brig, I can't guarantee we could have safely held the XO anywhere but a chair

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    Right, apologies on the delay.

    I’ll keep it short and to the point, this BE was valid. The CO announced that that they wouldn't tolerate any threats to the OP given the event and the fact that MPs were unable to brig anyone due to the situation. The CO had a plan in mind and there wasn't much time to stray away from that, especially not a new plan entirely. When the CO looked over your plan and said no, you insulted the CO and were given a chance to backdown, however you continued by telling them to fuck themselves once more. That being said, it is one of the weaker reasons to BE someone, and though it occurred during an event, it still shouldn’t be happening all that often.

    Resolved, no action taken. Don’t make this a common occurrence Rem.
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