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    To be fair when you counter "sHoTGuNs aRe oP gUYs" with "bE a hEDgehOG rAVaGEr" it just proves the one bitching about shotguns right. Anyone who knows anything knows that warden is the real op xeno not ravagers. Yall need to get it right when you are trolling xenos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just L View Post
    BYOND ticks can probably make the stuns feel longer than the reported values, but buck or slugs will never stun more than 2 IRL seconds unless you have absurdly high ping.
    Yeah, of course. But when the usual BYOND input delay means that you're realistically stunned ~a second before you see any indication on your screen, you spend ~a second in the knockback, two seconds in the stun proper where you're in the stun state on the ground, and then a second or so of wakeup time where there's still no reaction to your input, it's not functionally a two second stun. That's just how SS13 stuns are, and it's why anyone with a brain on a standard server keeps their egun set to stun even when they're trying to kill people. Arguing that "it's only coded to stun for 2s and that means that the actual span of time you can't act is 2s" when you're talking about BYOND is a tad silly, as anyone who has been neuroed and dragged ten tiles away before standing up can attest.

    I'm not saying it's exclusive to shotguns, but it's a little silly to give functionally unlimited stuns to any PFC who decides to take a shotgun. I salt a little over being chain-stunned by HEDP when someone who knows how to do it properly manages to get me with it, but grenades have a somewhat-limited supply, an obvious warning window to react, and the potential for counterplay. Is this not the exact reason neuro was nerfed and taken away from most of the castes that had it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Dice View Post
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    Man... Thats not BYOND... Thats your Ping, or something, but not BYOND. It takes second for any indication of stun to appear on your screen? Your beno is flying in knockback (that launches beno only one tile away) for entire second? There is no input after your beno wakes up from the stun for entire second?

    And its not silly to give PFCs "unlimited" short stuns because...
    a) Benos that are stunnable are usually way faster than marine in armor.
    b) You can see only 7 tiles in each direction... Only fricking 7 tiles. Even marine in Heaviest of Armors crosses the screen in two seconds.

    SS13 has Stun-Based combat because stun is the only thing that keeps your opponent from escaping offscreen, or dodging most of the projectiles left and right. Most sane servers nerf even that, replacing out right stun with stamina damage.

    Neuro wasn't just outright nerfed, it was reworked. While before you needed only one neuro to put marine to a fairly short stun and then he standed up ready to PB anything standing next to him, now you only need 3 to make marine completly useless for a while and more will put him to sleep.
    Its more fair for both sides.
    But if you insist, I would gladly exchange instant short stun from slug for what neuro does to marines.
    1 slug slows down. 2 slugs slows down even more, messes up vision, can't say anything coherent, disabled abilities. 3 slugs stun beno on top of that. 4 slugs put beno to sleep.
    You then can get back old neuro, I'm fine with that.

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    what's up bros

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    Every time I see one of these threads it fills me with joy, Xenos really do be mad sometimes.
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    Hi what's popping

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    Xenos mad until DS hits hanger for last stand...then xenos glad

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ View Post
    To be fair when you counter "sHoTGuNs aRe oP gUYs" with "bE a hEDgehOG rAVaGEr" it just proves the one bitching about shotguns right. Anyone who knows anything knows that warden is the real op xeno not ravagers. Yall need to get it right when you are trolling xenos
    What about screech, acid spit, stomp, charge, lunge, shove, and acid cloud?

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    it's hot in here hiiiii

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    Xenos do, indeed, be mad.

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