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    Watermelon914 - Moderator Application

    Moderator Application

    Personal Information

    Byond ID?
    Waltermeldron

    CM Character?
    Walter Meldron

    Are you 16 or older?
    Yes

    Timezone
    GMT

    On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
    20-30 hours

    Qualifications

    Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
    Yes, not on SS13 though

    Do you play any servers aside from CM-SS13?
    Sometimes tgstation

    Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:
    Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
    No

    Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
    No

    Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
    No

    Are you familiar with the chat program Discord (its use is required)?
    Yes

    Communication is a vital part of being a Moderator. Are you willing to actively do so with the team?
    Sure

    Common Staff Situations

    A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
    Ask the person why they shot the player. Check logs to see whether it was properly escalated. If escalated properly, then leave the player. Otherwise, apply note for improper escalation and notify the player that they've been noted.

    A player ahelps that a predator has violated the honor code when killing him, what should you do?
    I'd tell the player to make a player report on the predator. Inform them that moderators aren't able to deal with honor code violations

    You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost at roundstart.
    If there is a SEA, PM the SEAs about a new player near cryo. If there is no SEA, I'd help them out and inform them of the mentorhelp verb if they need more information about the mechanics of the game.

    A player is being very rude to you in adminhelps, calling you names and arguing everything you say. He is requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
    I'd tell him that he has to deal with me and that he should calm down. I'd remain professional and I'd note him for being argumentative and rude. I'd inform him that if he has a problem, he can make a staff report.

    A player ahelps that a marine is named 'John Doe', how do you deal with this?
    PM the guy with the name of "John Doe" and tell him that the name is LRP and isn't allowed. I'd note them for LRP name and offer them a name change.

    You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green and there has been no threat to the ship in the round at this point.
    this is an IC issue, so I'd do nothing.

    A Marine ahelps that they were killed by a survivor. It is early round, the Marines have just landed, and the survivor claims that they were outright hostile to all Marines from the get-go and openly stated their intentions. How do you deal with this?
    PM the survivor that they are not allowed to be hostile. Aheal the marine who was killed and note the survivor for being hostile. Punish the survivor accordingly if they have a history of being hostile

    You receive an ahelp from a player stating that an MP has locked them up in permanent confinement for running into Requisitions and taking an attachment that was laying around.
    PM the MP, asking them why they've locked the player up. Ask them which charges have been applied. Investigate whether each charge is legitimate; trespassing and stealing would be up to 17.5 minutes maximum.

    If these are the only charges, I'd tell the MP to take them out of permanent confinement and imprison them for the correct amount of time and I'd also note the MP for breaking marine law, as they have improperly confined a player.

    The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
    I'd use the QM messages to order the xenos to fight if they were delaying.

    If the marines are delaying, I'd PM whoever is the commander and ask them to order pushes.

    You are playing as a medic, and another medic overdoses all your patients and prevent marines from being revived. It seems like it may be on purpose. How do you deal with this situation?
    I'd ahelp the situation, as staff shouldn't deal with cases that they are involved in due to bias.

    The round ends, a Marine starts shooting a hostile CLF member and the CLF member ahelps about being killed after the round ended.
    IC issue, as it is not EORG to shoot enemies after the round has ended.

    A Marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start. You receive an ahelp from one of the victims.
    Disarming and punching is an IC issue.

    If the gear is easily replaceable, it's an IC issue. Otherwise, I'd contact the player and tell them that it is griefing to steal items that cannot be replaced, such as kits and specialist weapons

    You receive an ahelp from a Marine saying that he was killed by another Marine. When you ask the murderer why, he said it was because the other Marine had punched him.
    Tell the marine that they must properly escalate a situation to use weapons against one another, and note them for improper escalation.

    You find out that there is an improper mutiny occuring. The mutineers are rallying together and preparing to storm the CIC. How would you attempt to resolve this situation?
    I'd sleep the mutineers and use MOOC to tell them that no mutiny was authorised. I'd unsleep them after this was done. Anyone who attempts to continue mutinying afterwards would be sleeped and noted for improper mutiny.

    There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
    To an extent, IC racism is allowed. If it escalates too far, then I'd contact the players and tell them to cut the racist comments

    A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
    I'd apply a 7 day ban and request for a permaban of the ckey.

    I'd then aheal anyone who was injured by the marine.

    You see a player playing a Xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines straight from the Xeno hive the second they burst and die.
    Investigate the situation. PM the player and ask them why they suicided as larva. Inform them that suiciding as larva is not allowed and note them for suiciding as larva as well as a jobban from xeno.

    You see a Xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat, as well as insulting the Queen.
    PM the player, telling them to cut the LRP and to not insult the queen. Note them for LRP and check if they have a history. If they have a history of LRP as a xeno, apply a 3 hour ban

    A Xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different Xeno player ahelps that it's low role play to call it a "dropship".
    This is not LRP as the hivemind is an interpretation of xeno thoughts, so words like dropship and Alamo are allowed to be used when speaking in the hivemind.

    A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet. You receive an ahelp from a marine regarding this.
    I'd contact the officer and tell them that they do not know they will be fighting xenomorphs; the only thing they do know is that they are responding to a distress signal. Apply a note to the player for metagaming.

    You find a Marine killing another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself. There are two other marines in the pod along with him.
    Check if it was properly escalated. If not, then killing the marine on the evac pod would be improper escalation and the player would earn a note for it. Ban if they have history.

    A player insults you after you warn them for a minor issue and begins ranting in LOOC or dchat about staff and mentions you specifically, referring to you as an 'idiot' and a 'retard'.
    PM the player to stop and note them for salting in LOOC. If they refuse to stop, then apply a 3 hour ban. Ban for longer if they have history.

    A player ahelps saying he was hugged by a Xeno when he was ssd, and wants the larva be removed from him via admin powers. How do you handle the ahelp?
    IC issue, inform them that aheals are only handed out when a player is griefed.

    You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforce a rule.
    I'd tell them about the correct information or tell them what rule the player broke.

    If I don't have enough context on the situation, I'd leave it as the staff member would know more about the situation, and I'd trust that they know what they are doing.

    Two staff are arguing in msay if an ahelp is breaking a rule. Because the staff who took the ahelp thinks the player broke a rule, they ban the player based on their interpretation of the rules, with others thinking the person was fine. What would you do?
    It is up to the staff who took the ahelp. The player who was banned is free to make a staff report if they feel the ban was unjust.

    Why would you like to become a moderator?
    I haven't ever moderated on a SS13 server, so I want to try it out. Plus, I've been playing on CM for quite a while now and would like to try out new things.

    In your opinion, what is the most important quality for a moderator?
    Efficiency and professionalism. Need to be efficienct so that you can deal with several issues at a time and you need to remain professional so that you can maintain a good reputation.

    Anything else you
    Nothing else, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    a player randomly shoots someone at round start and mps have detained him.
    ask the person why they shot the player. Check logs to see whether it was properly escalated. If escalated properly, then leave the player. Otherwise, apply note for improper escalation and notify the player that they've been noted.
    Even if properly escalated this could fall under Round-start Shenanigans depending on the circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you see a maintenance tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green and there has been no threat to the ship in the round at this point.
    this is an ic issue, so i'd do nothing.
    As you'll find with the majority of our rules, they can vary depending on circumstances.
    You saw this Technician 10 minutes earlier and they were unarmed and performing their usual duties. The Xenomorphs just forced the marines to evacuate and now the Technician has geared up for combat. How, if at all, would this change your response?

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    a marine ahelps that they were killed by a survivor. It is early round, the marines have just landed, and the survivor claims that they were outright hostile to all marines from the get-go and openly stated their intentions. How do you deal with this?
    pm the survivor that they are not allowed to be hostile. Aheal the marine who was killed and note the survivor for being hostile. Punish the survivor accordingly if they have a history of being hostile
    While this is correct, if we were not enforcing non-hostility, how would your response change?

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    the round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
    i'd use the qm messages to order the xenos to fight if they were delaying.

    If the marines are delaying, i'd pm whoever is the commander and ask them to order pushes.
    How would you determine who is delaying?

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    a marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start. You receive an ahelp from one of the victims.
    disarming and punching is an ic issue.

    If the gear is easily replaceable, it's an ic issue. Otherwise, i'd contact the player and tell them that it is griefing to steal items that cannot be replaced, such as kits and specialist weapons
    Typically, although not always, this would fall under Round-start Shenanigans.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you receive an ahelp from a marine saying that he was killed by another marine. When you ask the murderer why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
    tell the marine that they must properly escalate a situation to use weapons against one another, and note them for improper escalation.
    I would make sure you perform a cursory investigation, while it might sound like a simple case of Improper Escalation, it's possible either side is withholding or forgot to mention information that could change or entirely prevent punishment.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you find out that there is an improper mutiny occuring. The mutineers are rallying together and preparing to storm the cic. How would you attempt to resolve this situation?
    i'd sleep the mutineers and use mooc to tell them that no mutiny was authorised. I'd unsleep them after this was done. Anyone who attempts to continue mutinying afterwards would be sleeped and noted for improper mutiny.
    Avoid using MOOC if people are unconscious near CIC, it would provide MPs unfair information and opportunity to arrest people. Direct PMs are a more subtle method. Exceptions being if their intent has already been made quite clear and they're about to get into a fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines straight from the xeno hive the second they burst and die.
    investigate the situation. Pm the player and ask them why they suicided as larva. Inform them that suiciding as larva is not allowed and note them for suiciding as larva as well as a jobban from xeno.
    A jobban on their first offence is a little extreme, don't you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you find a marine killing another marine on the evac pod to take the last spot and claims it was rp as he was saving himself. There are two other marines in the pod along with him.
    check if it was properly escalated. If not, then killing the marine on the evac pod would be improper escalation and the player would earn a note for it. Ban if they have history.
    Jumping to the incident you find a line of barricades freshly breached by the xenos, the marine that claimed RP has a broken leg and is almost dead. How, if at all, would this change your response?

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    a player insults you after you warn them for a minor issue and begins ranting in looc or dchat about staff and mentions you specifically, referring to you as an 'idiot' and a 'retard'.
    pm the player to stop and note them for salting in looc. If they refuse to stop, then apply a 3 hour ban. Ban for longer if they have history.
    Ideally you should refer this to other members of staff.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    you see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an adminhelp or incorrectly enforce a rule.
    i'd tell them about the correct information or tell them what rule the player broke.

    If i don't have enough context on the situation, i'd leave it as the staff member would know more about the situation, and i'd trust that they know what they are doing.
    I'm pleased to see you're airing on the side of caution, however I would recommend asking a manager for clarification if there is some confusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by watermelon914 View Post
    two staff are arguing in msay if an ahelp is breaking a rule. Because the staff who took the ahelp thinks the player broke a rule, they ban the player based on their interpretation of the rules, with others thinking the person was fine. What would you do?
    it is up to the staff who took the ahelp. The player who was banned is free to make a staff report if they feel the ban was unjust.
    As with above, you should talk with their manager(s) regardless as it is unprofessional for members of staff to be arguing with one another like that in Msay, and a manager will also be able to provide clarification on the correct procedures.
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    Other than what forest said, i'd like to add my own.

    PM the guy with the name of "John Doe" and tell him that the name is LRP and isn't allowed. I'd note them for LRP name and offer them a name change.
    The only rule here broken was Rule 12, Character names, not LRP.

    Check if it was properly escalated. If not, then killing the marine on the evac pod would be improper escalation and the player would earn a note for it. Ban if they have history.
    In what conditions would this be properly escalated? What would you see is improper or proper in this situation?

    Your answers are alright, but they really lack specifics. I'll be neutral for now.

    I have questions though that I would like for you to answer to help me decide

    1. A CL starts stealing intel/research papers/vials and hiding it in their bathroom, how would you handle this?

    2. A person ahelps that a bunch of delta's are spamming disarm intent on him and he doesn't appreciate it, how would you handle this?

    3. Predator starts doing meme emotes like "Predator dabs on the dead marine", would this be a WL issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    Even if properly escalated this could fall under Round-start Shenanigans depending on the circumstances.
    Fair enough


    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    As you'll find with the majority of our rules, they can vary depending on circumstances.
    You saw this Technician 10 minutes earlier and they were unarmed and performing their usual duties. The Xenomorphs just forced the marines to evacuate and now the Technician has geared up for combat. How, if at all, would this change your response?
    That'd be different, as the technician is assuming that xenomorphs can operate the dropship, which they shouldn't know. I'd PM the player and ask them why they are gearing up. Assuming they respond with "xenomorphs are going to invade us", or something similar, I'd tell them that they shouldn't know that information and should not be gearing up. I'd then note them for metagaming, as they are using information that they should not be using.



    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    While this is correct, if we were not enforcing non-hostility, how would your response change?
    I'd investigate further, making sure that the survivor initially reacted hostile to the marines. If they did, I'd rule it as an IC situation, otherwise, I'd inform them that they cannot switch sides


    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    How would you determine who is delaying?
    Xenos would be delaying if marines were actively searching for the xenomorphs whilst the xenos keep running away

    Marines would be delaying if they are hiding behind layers upon layers of barricades, and no plans for pushes are being made. This is assuming that xenomorphs have low numbers and are unable to provide a push against the marines.


    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    Typically, although not always, this would fall under Round-start Shenanigans.

    I would make sure you perform a cursory investigation, while it might sound like a simple case of Improper Escalation, it's possible either side is withholding or forgot to mention information that could change or entirely prevent punishment.


    Avoid using MOOC if people are unconscious near CIC, it would provide MPs unfair information and opportunity to arrest people. Direct PMs are a more subtle method. Exceptions being if their intent has already been made quite clear and they're about to get into a fight.
    Got it


    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    A jobban on their first offence is a little extreme, don't you think?
    If it is the first offence, it might be a bit too extreme. There may be an explanation that they can provide for their actions, such as the front line might be very close to the hive. I'd definitely note them and tell them to not do it again.


    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    Jumping to the incident you find a line of barricades freshly breached by the xenos, the marine that claimed RP has a broken leg and is almost dead. How, if at all, would this change your response?
    This makes it slightly different. Although, they should try and avoid outright PBing someone in the pod, if there are no other obvious solutions for that marine to escape the xenomorphs, then I'd see it as an IC situation

    Quote Originally Posted by forest2001 View Post
    Ideally you should refer this to other members of staff.


    I'm pleased to see you're airing on the side of caution, however I would recommend asking a manager for clarification if there is some confusion.


    As with above, you should talk with their manager(s) regardless as it is unprofessional for members of staff to be arguing with one another like that in Msay, and a manager will also be able to provide clarification on the correct procedures.
    Got it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryth View Post
    Other than what forest said, i'd like to add my own.



    The only rule here broken was Rule 12, Character names, not LRP.



    In what conditions would this be properly escalated? What would you see is improper or proper in this situation?

    Your answers are alright, but they really lack specifics. I'll be neutral for now.

    I have questions though that I would like for you to answer to help me decide

    1. A CL starts stealing intel/research papers/vials and hiding it in their bathroom, how would you handle this?

    2. A person ahelps that a bunch of delta's are spamming disarm intent on him and he doesn't appreciate it, how would you handle this?

    3. Predator starts doing meme emotes like "Predator dabs on the dead marine", would this be a WL issue?

    1. I would inform them that they are self-antagging as they are denying DEFCON and that they should return the intel back to the IOs/researchers. I'd then note them for self-antagging as a CL and possibly apply a job ban if they have a history self-antagging as CL. This would be different if an admin has sent a fax to the CL with directives such as stealing intel.
    2. IC situation, possibly roundstart shenanigans if done near or at the start of a round. If it is done near the start of the round, then I'd sleep all of the delta doing it and LOOC them to stop with the roundstart shenanigans.
    3. No, it'd be a WL issue if they were breaking the honor code, but this does not excuse them from breaking other rules, such as no LRP. I'd PM them to cut the LRP and note them for LRP, possibly ban if they have history.
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    Your answers are okay-ish. But i've seen you ranting in Dchat quite often and that might be an issue later on.

    Since we are held to a higher standard, would you be able to change that and act professionaly in the future? Even if you're frustrated at something that happened to you ingame?

    -1 from me, for now.

    I will also ask the following,

    Give me three examples on something that can be solved via ML (ICly) and three OOC, in which case we would have to interven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgtmike View Post
    Your answers are okay-ish. But i've seen you ranting in Dchat quite often and that might be an issue later on.

    Since we are held to a higher standard, would you be able to change that and act professionaly in the future? Even if you're frustrated at something that happened to you ingame?

    -1 from me, for now.

    I will also ask the following,

    Give me three examples on something that can be solved via ML (ICly) and three OOC, in which case we would have to interven.
    I do sometimes rant in dchat, yeah. I don't get overly salty or start insulting someone when I rant, though. I do feel like I should be able to vent my frustration somewhere when I get frustrated, which I typically do in deadchat since it is an OOC form of communication. If need be, however, I can act more professionally when I get frustrated by typically quitting the game and playing something more casual to become less frustrated. Right now, I'm not a moderator so I don't have such standards yet.

    IC:
    1. A marine who properly escalates killing another marine would be solvable using marine law. Intervention would not be required as long as it isn't done during the start of the round
    2. A marine stealing the attachments that have been vended for another marine would be solvable using marine law.
    3. A marine yelling and disrespecting the CO is able to be arrested by marine law.
    Admin intervention is not required for any of these situations.

    OOC:
    1. A marine killing another marine because they had their attachments stolen. This would be improper escalation and would be punishable.
    2. A riot occuring in briefing would not be allowed, as round start shenanigans are not allowed.
    3. Killing an MP for attempting to arrest a marine would not be allowed, as it would be improper escalation and potentially round start shenanigans
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    2. A marine stealing the attachments that have been vended for another marine would be solvable using marine law.
    This would be different if the marine would be stealing spec gear or related.


    I should be able to vent my frustration somewhere when I get frustrated, which I typically do in deadchat since it is an OOC form of communication. If need be, however, I can act more professionally when I get frustrated by typically quitting the game and playing something more casual to become less frustrated. Right now, I'm not a moderator so I don't have such standards yet
    It's not about quitting, its knowing this is just a game, and getting upset for such, how would impact your answers on a ahelp from a very rude player if you get frustrated easily?


    Decent enough though, i will be seeing you ingame for the following week, change my mind and i will go with a +1

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    Other staff have already gone over the app answers ya answers to both Kryth's and Mike's questions are good enough seeing ya in game you're alright even though like was brought up ya do rant and rage sometimes which does raise some concern for me but I think ya reply to Mike about it shows ya willing to work on it so I don't mind seeing ya get a crack at a trial so +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgtmike View Post
    This would be different if the marine would be stealing spec gear or related.




    It's not about quitting, its knowing this is just a game, and getting upset for such, how would impact your answers on a ahelp from a very rude player if you get frustrated easily?


    Decent enough though, i will be seeing you ingame for the following week, change my mind and i will go with a +1
    Alright. If need be, there are many other productive ways of venting anger that I'll be sure to find. I'll definitely stop the salt in dchat though.
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