Staff Report - Dusanking123

[Bob]

Staff Report

Your BYOND Key

ComradeHavoc

Date of Incident

May 5, 2020

Your Character Name?

Bob Shafton

Their BYOND Key

Dusanking123

Approximate time and date of the incident

Around 11AM Central on May 5th 2020

Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken

Preserve the RP and enjoyment of the server:
- If a player breaks a rule, but increases the enjoyment of the server in general, (through roleplay or other such things) it can be overlooked. If no one admin helps (ahelp) a complaint, or seems to be complaining or taking issue with it, it may be best to let it go.
- We're a server focused on the enjoyment of the players. As long as the players are having a blast and not every single rule is being broken, it's okay to let some things slide here and there.


Enforcement of the rules:
- We are not a government repressing their citizens. Don't hassle players for literally everything.


Rule 13. ID Cards - These should only be taken for a roleplay reason, such as from a dead XO to call for help on a computer in the ship’s bridge. If you take an ID or find one from a living player (or a dead player that has since been revived), you should make every attempt to return it unless your character has a good reason not to.

Description of the incident

There was a game of scalpball, when everyone started literally murdering each other, I swiped the ID from the captain, ran into CIC, and starter making a bunch of joke announcements. The Captain then came, told us to leave, and that was the end of that, he didn't even care about his ID. No punishment, no crime, no reprimand, no arrests, no beatings, nothing. So I wandered off. I hung around RnR for a while, then went to medical, then ran around brief.

At this point, about fifteen minutes after, a bunch of mods start messaging me why I have the Captain's ID, I told them I swiped it from the captain to make joke announcements, every mod but Dusanking123 then stopped caring/replying. He asked me why I took the ID, I told him I took it to make joke announcements, he then said it was against the rules, despite rule 13 stipulates that you can if you have an RP reason and if you attempt to return it, but he didn't care for my reasoning.

Feeling that one particular mod was aggravated, I went to RnR seeing the one MP on the ship. I walked up to him, insulted him by saying he was a bad mp, confessed my crimes, threw the ID in front of him annnnnnnd he didn't care and said he was too busy/didn't care, then left. So I left the ID on the kitchen table. I then offered it to the CL, but he was too busy making sandwiches and didn't want it either. I then began offering the ID to anyone that walked by including the Captain, COs, XOs etc. No one wanted it. I hung out there for a bit maybe 15 minutes making small talk with the CL. Then I decided to drag a giant sandwich to to LZ1 to boost morale. Then command decided to OB the PFCs groundside, screw the pooch, and cause general evac.

So at this point I decided to get some revenge. I grabbed the ID, quickly went into CIC and made a joke announced that I blame command for the current evac. Because they OBed the marines and caused a general retreat. One guy then told me to leave CiC, so I did.

The one MP didn't care, no Officer cared, the Captain himself didn't care, the only one who cared was Dusanking123, and he sure didn't care about my reasoning and actions. And was quite upset that I made just one more joke announcement. He then decided to punish me with 3 hour ban as he "warned me already". As he was messaging, the lone MP was in the cafeteria once again. I threw the ID at him and professed that I did a crime in a mocking manner. He did not care. Banned, as I was dragging a dying marine through a hallway with a popped lung to medical. Whoops.

The justified rule was rule 13 which states:

"Rule 13. ID Cards - These should only be taken for a roleplay reason, such as from a dead XO to call for help on a computer in the ship’s bridge. If you take an ID or find one from a living player (or a dead player that has since been revived), you should make every attempt to return it unless your character has a good reason not to."

I stole the card to make joke announcements as a PFC, the first opportunity the Captain had to take it back (when he caught me in CiC) he didn't, as he did not care in every possible interpretation, the second opportunity was the MP I confessed to, with multiple other opportunities to give the card to the CL, passing by COs, XOs, the Captain himself, even OTs, Squad leaders, literally everyone. Dusanking123 was upset that I made that final joke announcement poking fun at command because they OBed the frontline and caused the Marines to lose. I attempted to return the ID with the presented opportunities, and I had a valid roleplay reason to take the ID as a PFC. It's quite clear he was very upset that I was making announcements, and no one cared but him, so he had to use a special interpretation to explain how I somehow broke rule 13 despite having a valid reason, and attempting to return the ID.

Evidence

https://youtu.be/Cr0LtyCc4qs

Right before the Ban.

How you would punish the accused

By making them understand that harassing players where it isn't warranted just damages RP fun, and ignoring rules via your own interpreted context will make everyone paranoid.

[Viperious]

XO here. I'm the one that a helped because you hacked into CoC and went straight for the console. I pushed you away so you reeee'd about it being your pizza, so I logged out of the console, called the MPs to CiC and returned to trying to coordinate an evac after Juro's OB coords gibbet 25 marines and the Captain. When you then proceeded to log back into the console with the COs ID and announced that I was the reason for the bad OB, I ahelped because PFCS shouldn't he able to log into the console and make announcements. At no point did you tell me you had the COs ID and the MP was a literal retard

[Bob]

XO here. I'm the one that a helped because you hacked into CoC and went straight for the console. I pushed you away so you reeee'd about it being your pizza, so I logged out of the console, called the MPs to CiC and returned to trying to coordinate an evac after Juro's OB coords gibbet 25 marines and the Captain. When you then proceeded to log back into the console with the COs ID and announced that I was the reason for the bad OB, I ahelped because PFCS shouldn't he able to log into the console and make announcements. At no point did you tell me you had the COs ID and the MP was a literal retard

So at no point did you attempt to ask for the ID despite watching me log in, you just went straight to the ahelp, instead of waiting for Mps or dealing with the issue?

That's extremely shitty on your part, doesn't make sense, and it's scary that you've been given an IC role of authority despite bad IC interactions and a lack of interest to actually engage things ingame, instead opting to immediately aHelp something that doesn't warrant it.

Also why would I tell you that I have an ID when WHILST I was attempting to make an announcement?


Also I didn't blame you specifically, I said I blamed command.


And it's not hacking if I used an ID.

[Viperious]

So at no point did you attempt to ask for the ID despite watching me log in, you just went straight to the ahelp, instead of waiting for Mps or dealing with the issue?

That's extremely shitty on your part, doesn't make sense, and it's scary that you've been given an IC role of authority despite bad IC interactions and a lack of interest to actually engage things ingame, instead opting to immediately aHelp something that doesn't warrant it.

Also why would I tell you that I have an ID when WHILST I was attempting to make an announcement?


Also I didn't blame you specifically, I said I blamed command.


And it's not hacking if I used an ID.

As I said I ahelped when I didn't know you had the COs ID because I thought it was a bug. I didn't really have the time to deal with you IC because as I said, the MP was retarded and I was coordinating a full retreat and evac.

You also said that you informed me that you had the COs ID which you didn't

[Bob]

As I said I ahelped when I didn't know you had the COs ID because I thought it was a bug. I didn't really have the time to deal with you IC because as I said, the MP was retarded and I was coordinating a full retreat and evac.

You also said that you informed me that you had the COs ID which you didn't

You walked past RnR, I pointed at the ID, you stared for 15 seconds then walked off.

Also what in the hell, you decided to report me because you thought it was a bug? An unlikely story. And not just that, you couldn't be bothered to ask, or put two and two together?

[Viperious]

You walked past RnR, I pointed at the ID, you stared for 15 seconds then walked off.

Also what in the hell, you decided to report me because you thought it was a bug? An unlikely story. And not just that, you couldn't be bothered to ask, or put two and two together?

1. If I stopped outside of RnR it was to talk on comms after spending the first 20 minutes of the round manning req because we had no req crew.

2. I ahelped because I automatically assumed that there was a bug that allowed you to log in to the console as the CO had already been gibbed by this point and there was not a single mention of his ID being stolen anywhere.

3. I was very busy.

4. I did not tell Dusanking to ban you. I did not mention your name. If someone would like to post the logs then what I said in the ahelp will be very clear .

[Bob]

1. If i stopped outside of rnr it was to talk on comms after spending the first 20 minutes of the round manning req because we had no req crew.

2. I ahelped because i automatically assumed that there was a bug that allowed you to log in to the console as the co had already been gibbed by this point and there was not a single mention of his id being stolen anywhere.

3. I was very busy.

4. I did not tell dusanking to ban you. I did not mention your name. If someone would like to post the logs then what i said in the ahelp will be very clear .

nothing seemed off about the announcement to beat up people wearing boots to you?!

[Viperious]

nothing seemed off about the announcement to beat up people wearing boots to you?!

If you're talking about the announcement at the start, I ran to the cic to find out what was going because at the same time as that announcement, someone in the CiC had locked down the hangar. I attempted to investigate as I believed one of the SOs was fucking around but it turned out it was you. When I asked Windhealer about the announcement and hangar lockdown he said it was just a pfc which I didn't believe because of access restrictions on the lockdown button. And in regards to hacking into the CiC, the outer window was broken Abe the door you can in from had signs of being hacked.

[forest2001]

The only reason you should be taking an ID is emergency situations, not so you can mess around and make joke announcements.
Dusanking did nothing wrong here, and this report is quite literally a confession of LRP.
Closed with no action taken, this does not need to waste the time of management.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Wow admin stole my report, top ten anime betrayals

So based on your report, you literally admit you broke a rule. My moderator did nothing wrong here.

Stole the CO's ID to shitpost in commnad announcements. How he got the ID without the CO noticing is a mystery. Warned not to steal ID's in the future.
by on 2020-05-26 00:16:09

Banned for 180 minutes | Rule 13 - ID Cards - Took CO's ID and shitposted in announcements after being warned to give it back earlier, please re-read the rules.
by on 2020-05-26 00:42:36

You were literally warned 30 minutes prior to this, and did it again. What did you think was going to happen?

A staff member tells you not to do this, if you go back and do it again you get banned it's pretty simple.
Meme announcements are a rule break, commanders lose their WL if they do it.