Staff Report
Your BYOND Key GoliathTheDespoiler
Date of Incident May 30, 2020
Your Character Name? Xenomorph Queen
Their BYOND Key JarekTheRaptor (Mostly) / KingPhilipIII
Approximate time and date of the incident 4:10am (Central US)
Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken Preserve the RP and Enjoyment of the server. / Enforcement of the rules.
Description of the incident Ice Colony, LZ2 Primary Landing, Hive in Southwest Underground Research.
After spending the starting few minutes having larvae killed by survivors, I had watched through a sentinel that the dropship had landed at LZ2. I announced to the xenos it had arrived, told them to gather at medical, but by the time I had paid attention to the fighting, we had already pushed them back into the LZ, and the marines were struggling to break out.
Jarek, or, maybe KingPhilip, made a Queen Mother announcement that we should back up and, effectively, give the marines a fighting chance. I said 'no' in an announcement, had a short back and forth in announcements ICly, then deovi'd, because I figured we may as well just end the round now since marines were already going to retreat regardless.
I ended up getting in a dispute in PMs with KingPhilipIII, who I argued with about the vailidity of using Queen Mother to tell us that we broke a rule. They DID eventually do an XOOC telling us to get back, but not before the marines were minutes away from evacuating, and there was little point. After threat of being slain by admins, I backed off, waited 60 seconds in the hive with all the xenos, then just went back and finished the round.
Following this, I recieved a jobban from queen, which I also disagree with, but I'll talk about that in the appeal.
Evidence Logs of PM argument with King Philip:
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: Queenie. As funny as I find this. Y'all need to back off. We told you several times to now, don't make me game end you.
PM to KingPhilipIII: You're joking, right?
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: Serious as a shark attack. You were told multiple times, both with QM messages and with XOOC not to rush the LZ. Which you did anyway.
PM to KingPhilipIII: 1. How is it a rush when marines have landed and they failed to push out? 2. Marines do this all the time, how come they never get an earful?
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: 1. You never gave them a chance to leave.
2. I hate marine metarushing as much as the next guy. I got game ended by ungarushing last round after all. But these are two entirely seperate issues.
PM to KingPhilipIII: How is it a seperate issue? You could easily enforce this same sort of punishment on the CO for letting it happen. I didn't tell my xenos to fortify LZ2. I told them to regroup at medical to fight. They fought, they won, and now I just want to get the round over with.
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: Look man. I'm gonna be real simple.
I agree with you. I 100% would not have stopped you in my own opinion, because there's a certain level of subjectiveness to rules enforcement.
But I'm not stopping you because of that. I'm stopping you because you were told MULTIPLE times by another staff member who decided your push was in violation of the rules to stop, and you ignored them. And now we have another problem. This isn't the time to discuss metarushing. I'll happily discuss it with you on discord if you want. But now, I'm ordering you to pull back. This isn't up for debate. You're about to make this a lot more painful than it needs to be.
PM to KingPhilipIII: Fine. Tell me who made the decision. I'll report them.
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: JarekTheRaptor.
Moderator PM from KingPhilipIII: At the end of the day, Jarek's decision came at the fact there were T3s at the LZ on landing, which is in fact a violation of the rules, but the issue really came when you blatantly disobeyed an order to stop and joined in yourself. That's where the dispute is coming from. He doesn't care if the marines get assblasted, he just took issue with the aforementioned factors.
Following this, PMs from JarekTheRaptor:
SeniorModerator PM from JarekTheRaptor: Right, Philips done a good job but you seem to take issue with my ruling, so if you have any problems, I'm right here to answer them.
PM to JarekTheRaptor: Answer them in the report.
SeniorModerator PM from JarekTheRaptor: I see, I don't need to drag this out any further then.
How you would punish the accused A very firm reminder to please not use Queen Mother as a way to tell xenos are breaking rules. If I was aware THAT was the issue, I would've done something, but they made it seem like they just wanted the round to last 1 hour.
I would also advise looking back over how enforcing the punishment meta-rushing is done. Punishing command or the queen for the actions of several T3s and other xenos is a bit silly. Perhaps sleeping the frontline and mass-banning would be a better way to prevent that, I don't know.