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    Clairion - 3, 4, 15

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    50RemAndCounting

    Date of Incident
    July 6, 2020

    Your Character Name?
    Lucia Clerinell

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    Clairion

    Accused Character Name
    Karla 'Knees' Blessig

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    Circa 14:00 CST

    What rule(s) were broken:
    3, 4, 15

    Description of the incident:
    Was playing Executive Officer that round. Was very busy commanding with only one staff officer. There was a full mp crew yet a survivor from the colony came to me in cic - escorted by someone I do not remember - and asked to be processed. I did not want to waste my time nor his time - seeing how he insisted in coming up to me with his one foot missing - and I simply updated his ID card and officially enlisted him as requested, then hurried back to resume overwatch.

    MP Karla Blessig asks was the survivor processed, I replied yes. Said MP got extremely catty and aggressive in return, obviously miffed I processed the survivor instead of them, for whatever reason. I reacted negatively to their childish outburst and told them what I thought of that attitude and to quit bossing me around. The mp again took great offence to this and literally said that they will now arrest me as punishment for pissing them off. Because I said I completely forgot about mps because they're normally useless and that Karla's attitude was unbecoming of them.

    The MP subsequently rushed to CIC and informed me I was under arrest for failure to follow procedure, because I did not confiscate the survivor's weapons. I did not notice any weapons on him neither was there a need to strip search the survivor. Even if we completely ignore that the survivors are OOCly banned from going hostile and/or turncoating (in case hostile survivors weren't banned), I saw little to no IC justification in essentially robbing the survivor of his belongings, essentially softgriefing the survivor. The fact that this is an extreme nitpick of the standard operating procedure coupled with the fact that the MP only paid attention to it as an excuse to arrest ms because, as they had said verbatim both IC and OOC, they wanted to get back at me for being rude to them, this is just blatantly being a dick and a griefer - thankfully the op ended not long after, otherwise the consequences could have been much much worse for the marine side - the ENTIRE marine force being gimped because of self-admitted pettyness of a single mp.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    I have nothing saved unfortunately but Axynious was handling my ahelp. I've made this report because the round was unfortunately not able to be delayed for purposes of investigating this.

    How you would punish the accused:
    Warning or jobban from MP if this had happened before.

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    Hi. Since this player report is on me i'll be defending my actions and giving my side of the story.

    Before i start i would like to say that i dont believe i broke rule 15 at all since i acted within ML during the arrest and as for the reason of the arrest. The XO didnt follow proper survivor processing procedure since he didnt search and take any weapons to brig at any point of the processing. In ML that is the reason for the arrest. Its a minor break of SOP but a break non the less.

    Now as to the other rulebreaks i would like to provide some context for my actions. There were i believe 4 times in the round that i was directly involved with the XO over comms or in person.


    The first moment the XO and i clashed was when over police comms the XO asked for MPs to replace the lights near cryo. I stated that we dont have any lights replacers. The XO told me to walk into engineering and get one. I told the XO that that would be theft. Even though i have access to the department i shouldn't just walk in there and start taking things. Just like i dont walk into the COs bathroom and take the command tablet even though i have access neither should i walk into engineering and take something there. The situation was resolved after i talked to the CE who happened to be walking by and asked for the lights replacer. After a bit of talking she told me that she wanted to do it since she didnt really have anything to do and that i should just tell the XO i did it and take the credit. Of course i promptly did this and took all the credit for the CEs actions.

    The second instance would be one of the other MPs asking why one of the survivors had access to squad prep. Me and the other MPs all said that we didnt process them and after i asked if the XO processed him he stated that yes he did. He hadn't notified any of us MPs about it but i wasn't gonna give him a hard time for it since its not really anything to worry about normally.

    The third case of the XO talking to me and the other MPs over comms. Telling us how we are all useless manchildren and several other insults. I dont recall the context as to why he decided to say that but i decided IC that i had enough and that after the XO tried to force me to do some menial task (and considering the CEs response probably didnt even ask engineering) , decided to not call in a survivor to the MPs but instead process him himself even though he claims he was "Extremely busy" and then go on to insult myself and all my colleagues it was time to enforce the breach of SOP the XO committed.

    This leads directly into my 4th interaction with the XO. It was in CIC where i told the XO he was under arrest and that he should please lay down. After he asked me what for i told him that he breached SOP by not searching the survivor and placing his weapons in brig. After a bit of talking back and forth the XO proceeded to rest so i could make the arrest. The SO in CIC kept pushing me out of the way saying i couldnt just arrest the XO. After this went on for a bit i tased the SO and started taking the XO to brig. I told the CE that she was next in line to become aCO and that she should do so while the XO was in jail. Just before i arrived in brig i got a PM by Axynious asking if i could talk to him about the arrest. I gave the XO to another MP to continue the brigging process so i could answer the PM. I proceeded to state that i arrested the XO on a minor breach of SOP after he was being an absolute dick to me and the other MPs. Since the CE was ready and quick to take over as aCO i dont see any reason as to how this would ruin the operations for the marines. Especially since the XO could have appealed and the timer was quite short as it was only a breach of SOP.


    That is the context and specific reason as to why i made the arrest. I sadly dont have any screenshots or recordings myself just like 50RemAndCounting.
    I would like to say sorry if my actions soured the experience of 50RemAndCounting but i still feel i was both IC and OOC justified in taking those actions.

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    David Daboza (survivor) gets enlisted to Delta Squad
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    Arguments with the XO
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    XO's arrest
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    -ADMINHELP- / PMs
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    Timeline :
    [12:27:22] - Survivor gets enlisted
    [12:29:18] - Arguments between the XO and the MP
    [12:31:57] - XO getting arrested
    [12:34:11] - Adminhelp from 50rem taken by Axyinious

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    After reviewing everything, the arrest was a false arrest. It's up to the MPs to make sure survivors are processed for weapons and contraband. Nanu has ruled that survivors can keep weapons under certain circumstances, and Command's job is to just process the ID. He's going to update SOP due to the oversight.

    I am issuing a verbal warning to the MP since we have to clarify it now. Don't break ML or find reasons to jail someone just cause they're a dick. If you have a problem with how a aCO/CO is acting to the MP corps, fax High Command instead. I may be adding a marine law provision for conduct unbecoming an officer as part of some ML tweaks in the future.
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