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    Is this like the "no briefing in hangar" meme?

    LRP destroyed, mission accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkermain View Post
    Is this like the "no briefing in hangar" meme?

    LRP destroyed, mission accomplished.
    This is the fifth time we have declare LRP dead, and we are becoming exceedingly good at it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r51EomcIqA0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripetail View Post
    The CO should only be deploying as a last ditch effort to turn the tides in a battle, and for way too long they got away with 1st or 2nd drop deployments. It makes no sense to possibly sacrifice the most important individual your side has in a first or even second assault. While yes, CIC can be crowded, it would make more sense to send an SO or the XO down ground side while the CO maintains order and operation on the ship.

    Lately there have been too many CO's who treat the role as a Specialist ground side with the added benefit that CIC MUST under penalty of marine law, Obey every word they shout into the headset. (Which can lead to some hilariously bad OB's, or game changing counter attacks, granted.) They're also often focused by aliens, which leads to marines having to retrieve them or the operation losings its highest commanding officer often very early on in the round.

    Ok lets review

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    Literally every good captain player right now deploys. I really don't see why it's such a problem to lead from just behind the front line and call in fire support, only using the gun to fight stuff with a big mess of marines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreven View Post
    So now CO's have been restricted to only being able to play as one character, and are also restricted from deploying groundside unless very specific critera are met. This has destroyed an entire playstyle of CO's, who for the most part do a better job leading the operation and communicating than most CIC CO's whose SOLE ABILITY is that to communicate. The reasons given for this change? None at all, staff just posted some cringe memes about this "not being a democracy" (as if that was ever in question) and then made the announcement. Thoughts?
    Both of these make sense, but only because it falls under the "This is why we can't have nice things".

    Simple case of some players ruining it for others, so unfortunately you have to put it broad rules to restrict stupid.

    1. You technically should only be playing your white-listed character, part of the application process is approving your characters motives and beliefs. Making up a new character every-time somewhat voids the whitelist process as you're pretty much winging it with a wild character whenever you feel like it.

    I'm going to take a wild guess here and say some players/CO's have really been pushing the "Acceptable Character" limit for a CO and gone overboard sparking this change.

    2. CO's really shouldn't be going planet side if you're speaking from a Lore/RP point. Super unrealistic for a CO to ever go on the group for any operation unless the ship needs to be abandoned or their presence is absolutely mandatory. Back in the day we have a rule restriction that any Command level personnel were restricted to the FOB, but this was a nightmare to manage and people constantly stretched it.

    Another case of CO players probably going down, instantly getting killed and then the slot being locked for the rest of the round.

    I really just seems like a bunch of shitty CO's though have ruined it for others and this is why we can't have nice things.

    In my opinion, CO's were and are (supposed to be) a roleplay position first. Not sure why every round the CO thinks it's cool to deploy planetside and start shooting aliens completely abandoning the entire point of the whitelist.
    Someone on the dev team open my giant google document and just add in Platoon Leader, it was essentially supposed to be the groundside CO who was actually allowed to be near the frontlines.
    Last edited by Fewher; 08-29-2020 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fewher View Post
    Both of these make sense, but only because it falls under the "This is why we can't have nice things".

    Simple case of some players ruining it for others, so unfortunately you have to put it broad rules to restrict stupid.

    1. You technically should only be playing your white-listed character, part of the application process is approving your characters motives and beliefs. Making up a new character every-time somewhat voids the whitelist process as you're pretty much winging it with a wild character whenever you feel like it.

    I'm going to take a wild guess here and say some players/CO's have really been pushing the "Acceptable Character" limit for a CO and gone overboard sparking this change.

    2. CO's really shouldn't be going planet side if you're speaking from a Lore/RP point. Super unrealistic for a CO to ever go on the group for any operation unless the ship needs to be abandoned or their presence is absolutely mandatory. Back in the day we have a rule restriction that any Command level personnel were restricted to the FOB, but this was a nightmare to manage and people constantly stretched it.

    Another case of CO players probably going down, instantly getting killed and then the slot being locked for the rest of the round.

    I really just seems like a bunch of shitty CO's though have ruined it for others and this is why we can't have nice things.
    Except that every ground CO I knew did their job better because they had to, put more effort into actually leading the operation and brought enjoyment to the marine side. But if your a CO who roleplays in the ship all round and doesen't actually contribute to doing their job, then you get praised, its been a vile double standard for months now that council and staff have flat out ignored, besides from making like one announcement about it and then never enforcing it. Also theirs literally a captain who leads from the front in the aliens lore, and CO's get mechanical advantages to doing so, its a more fun way to play for alot of us, and the fact that you can just do more tactics while deployed. Its an objective fact that marines will follow the blue star more, and you can pull off way more aggressive flanks and big gambit pushes when your deployed, In the last several months I can only count one time that I've died early planetside out of dozens of rounds where I lead from the ground, but eh, I guess its just not for me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningMetal View Post
    what? forcing CO to have less option aint ''streamlining''???

    gtfo troll
    Devs don't have anything to do with that schizo tard

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningMetal View Post
    Pfff... just more Devs Streamlining the game...
    remooving stuff for the sake of remooving stuff...

    Streamlining CM is bad... Let CM be CM!!!!
    Devs had no say in this, it was management + council

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    Commanding Officer waking up, instantly shoving the entire operation on the XO and then fucking about in the kitchen or some shit: "That's fine, it's his whitelist he can play it how he feels suits him best. "

    Commanding Officer going groundside: "This is disgusting and LRP a commanding officer wouldn't just ABANDON his ship and post like that. >"

    That is all.

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    Such a strange set of conditions that seems unnecessary, can't tell why they're being placed either

    And what real life circumstances are we comparing this to the fact that commanding officers deploying in unrealistic? Flag officers always had been in the front with their battalions. This includes from navy, airforce and land forces...
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