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    Decker100 - Rule 16

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    CowboyLee

    Date of Incident
    September 20, 2020

    Your Character Name?
    Bob Vancleave

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    N/A

    Accused Character Name
    Decker Alsimia

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    1:25 CST

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 16

    Description of the incident:
    I roll Alpha spec roundstart, get SADAR. I kitted up, went on the DS. I decide to do the funny and aim my SADAR at some friends on the DS, but I UNLOAD IT, meaning that UNLESS SOMEONE LOADED A ROCKET IN, IT WOULD NOT FIRE. Some time passes, and the pryo spec, who said earlier if any specs wanted anything, to which I responded an AP rocket, loads in an AP rocket without me seeing. Now that the SADAR is loaded, it fires. A marine was gibbed, (later respawned by hunk), and I get dragged off DS by CO. I'm not completely sure if I was cuffed or not, as this passed very quick but I was stunned by the flasher and more or less in custody. At this time, I ahelp saying that I did an oopsie, and explain to hunk what happened. At the same time, CO was saying stuff and Im deaf, I respond to with "deaf". Shortly after saying that I was deaf, the CO BEs me. Note that I was not aware that the SADAR was reloaded, and it was not my intention to ever fire the SADAR on the DS. After some talking to with Hunk, he respawns me in the morgue. I believe I was given a respawn BECAUSE Hunk decided the BE was not valid, hence this report.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
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    How you would punish the accused:
    I don't want their CO WL to be removed. I'm a believer in 2nd chances, we all fuck up. A warning will do

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    Hello.

    The Battlefield Execution I carried out was on charges of Murder. I was already concerned when our synthetic, Maxwell, reported you were aiming your RPG at people on the Alamo Dropship. However after I had heard it had been fired, resulting in the gibbing of a Marine, I went down there to see what had happened.

    What I found was you almost unharmed, with the head of a Marine who you had gibbed with an Anti-Tank rocket.

    I'm not going to go on about how people handle weapons in real life, this is a game. This said, you are responsible for your weapon. It is yours. Regardless if the Pyro Specialist loaded it or not, you had to physically unholster and weild your RPG and then fire it. Which requires the saftey OFF. The RPG cannot be fired one-handed. Meaning you took actions to make it ready to fire, which you then fired. Resulting in a Marine getting Gibbed.

    You were Battlefield Executed accordingly. If the Military Police had taken the issue, in accordance with Marine Law, you're looking at a Perm-Brig sentence for Murder. You could argue Manslaughter but this would require killing someone without malicious intent. Aiming an RPG at someone, is malicious intent.

    Hunk messaged me about this issue asking me to confirm I BE'd you. I did, he believed that because you reported it as an accident, you would be ahealed and released immediately. I objected to this to Hunk, but his decision was final and I relayed to the MP's to carry out the release without delay. As did ARES report.

    tl;dr
    Please take care when handling weapons designed to kill Tier-3's.

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    This was Resolved in game. I never told you that the BE wasn't valid. I revived you because you actually cared to Ahelp your mistake and the BE was a consequence of the accident in game.

    I revived you for the sole cause of resolving this accident on the best way possible which was reviving you, respawning the PFC gibbed and Dealt with your arrest after you got Ahealed.
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    I need an answer first, is this a report against Hunk1 handling of the situation? A report against the CO for performing the BE on you? Or a report on the player that Allegedly without having checked the logs disarmed you?
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    I am not a witness myself, however, I believe, that this record is relevant to report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanu308 View Post
    I need an answer first, is this a report against Hunk1 handling of the situation? A report against the CO for performing the BE on you? Or a report on the player that Allegedly without having checked the logs disarmed you?
    This is a report against the CO for preforming a BE on me. After looking at the video, I don't think the Pyro spec loaded anything, nor was I disarmed. It shows me aiming at marines sitting moving around, dry firing the empty SADAR but when I am at the Bravo spec, it fires, magically being loaded. Since I don't really see anything to indicate that the pyro spec had anything to do with it, I don't want them dragged into this.

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    Then this report will be left open for the CO Councill to decide on then.
    Hunk's decision to deal with this should not be taken into consideration.
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    I’m going to have to disagree with you Nanu. The opinion of an Administrator on my actions should be take into consideration. He’s an Admin.

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    That's true Decker, however his actions were in the interest of the round and players at the time, and do not affect the validity of BEs which is the subject of this report.
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    I don't disagree. I understand fully the validity is determined by the Council and that Hunk was carrying out his responsibilities as Admin.

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