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    Staff Report - Bibiex

    Staff Report
    Your BYOND Key
    BOMBSQUADGUY
    Date of Incident
    October 9, 2020
    Your Character Name?
    BillyJean Bombamanski
    Their BYOND Key
    Bibiex
    Approximate time and date of the incident
    11:13 pm
    Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken
    disregard for RP rules and not understanding RP at all. Pretty clear break of "preserve RP":

    Preserve the RP and enjoyment of the server
    - If a player breaks a rule, but increases the enjoyment of the server in general, (through roleplay or other such things) it can be overlooked. If no one admin helps (ahelp) a complaint, or seems to be complaining or taking issue with it, it may be best to let it go.
    - We're a server focused on the enjoyment of the players. As long as the players are having a blast and not every single rule is being broken, it's okay to let some things slide here and there.
    - Do not try to heavily influence the game unless it is for very good reasoning such as for an event, a player purposefully holding up the game, dishing out punishment for rule breaking (Examples: a commander killed a marine unjustly, a squad of marines are killing other marines for no reason, a queen is slashing every host known to man, aliens have stacked too many huggers) or other such things.

    Pretty easy to just pm the individual and say hey use looc, wait til after round, or hey try and RP it up "oh god its not fair the Xeno is standing in the fire and appears to be immune. Fuck you god for the unfairness!" or "oh shit! thats not fair that xeno is immune to fire"

    but "xenos standing on a tile on fire" "taking no damage" "fair and Balanced" is blatant net/gamer speech. its not LRP or MRP or HRP or RP at all its literally just 4th wall break/not even trying.
    Description of the incident
    An person in game while complaing about mechanics to another character said "that xeno is just standing in fire taking no damage 'fair and balanced' ". i brought this up through admin help and was told to pound sand as its not considered LRP because there is no other way to talk about mechaincs in game. I responded that thats what LOOC and OOC are for. The admin then responded take it to the forums then enjoy the round!
    EvidenceHow you would punish the accused
    remove his admin status as he does not understand RP or the rules. Re-educate and Re-evaluate, and then if they are passable after that reinstate privileges.

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    The ckey you provided is invalid, your actual ckey is "BombSquadDude"

    Logs:

    2020/10/09: [10:56:15]ADMIN: HELP: Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): not RP: Dr. Marcus 'Nurse Boy' Pfeifer (follow) says, "Tkaing no damage at all" Dr. Marcus 'Nurse Boy' Pfeifer (follow) says, "Fair and balanced" - heard by 7 non-AFK staff.
    2020/10/09: [10:57:07]ADMIN: Bibiex has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski) and is preparing to respond...
    2020/10/09: [10:57:22]ADMIN: PM: Bibiex/(Ana Morgan)->Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): What was the context?
    2020/10/09: [10:58:24]ADMIN: PM: Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski)->Bibiex/(Ana Morgan): dr: "xeno is just standing in the fire" "taking no dmage at all" "fair and balanced" thats pretty mechanic talk to me
    2020/10/09: [11:00:11]ADMIN: PM: Bibiex/(Ana Morgan)->Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): We don't consider this kind of talk LRP because there is no other way to talk about mechanics in game. So he won't be punished.
    2020/10/09: [11:00:27]ADMIN: PM: Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski)->Bibiex/(Ana Morgan): thats what ooc and looc is for no?
    2020/10/09: [11:01:23]ADMIN: PM: Bibiex/(Ana Morgan)->Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): It depends on the situation. This one it is okay to use IC chat because it's minor stuff. "Xeno taking no damage" is not a rulebreak.
    2020/10/09: [11:02:40]ADMIN: PM: Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski)->Bibiex/(Ana Morgan): they awere complaining about mechanics and complaing not saying hey stop firing the xeno isnt taking damage. or "hey stop xeno is immune to fire' pretty eay to RP that...
    2020/10/09: [11:02:58]ADMIN: PM: Bibiex/(Ana Morgan)->Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): I don't consider it LRP. Take it to the forums if you don't agree.
    2020/10/09: [11:03:41]ADMIN: PM: Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski)->Bibiex/(Ana Morgan): i will its like saying to a medic "i just took damage" vs "i just got shot and im bleeding"
    2020/10/09: [11:03:52]ADMIN: PM: Bibiex/(Ana Morgan)->Bomb Squad Dude/(BillyJean Bombmanski): Alright, have a nice round!
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    Hey there.

    I don't see how saying a xeno is taking no damage breaks our rules. We are a MRP server after all. There is no need to use a in-game term for everything. For example, most xenos call the dropship a "bird" but it is perfectly fine to use the term dropship. Marcus used what was necessary to make others understand what he was saying. Could he use other words instead of tile to improve the level of roleplay? Of course, but it isn't required by the rules. He is already at a MRP level.

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    its the context of the "fair and balanced" not the Xeno taking no damage. "fair and balanced" is obvious RP break. they are talking about how the game is balanced mechanically not as if they are RPing inside the world they are playing in. That is the point. Not "xeno are taking no damage" by itself in a vacuum.

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    This is a non issue.

    The moderator was in the right, and you need to rethink what you file staff reports about.

    Closed, Moderator acted correctly.
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