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    Staff Report - Ben11567

    Staff Report
    Your BYOND Key
    GrimzLex
    Date of Incident
    October 18, 2020
    Your Character Name?
    Cadan Arbor
    Their BYOND Key
    Ben11567
    Approximate time and date of the incident
    3:25 PM Central US
    Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken
    2. Investigate the situation, 3. Determine the seriousness of the issue, 5. Determine the punishment, 6. PIN NOTES TO PLAYERS.
    Description of the incident
    I'm writing this staff report inform people of Ben11567. Do to permabanned for half a year, still learning old and new mechanics. I say i learned from previous bans and i'm not getting silly bans as i used to. But sadly it seems i'm still getting banned by moderators for my incompetence. Do to lack of investigation and log searching, this person seems like to ban players as me without proper investigation. I'm not the griefer i don't boast what i did, i do lack proper gameplay information which do to it, i get in trouble. Like don't knowing: you can't shoot off private liaisons rooms doors, not knowing how to look through cameras as you fire fatty. Do to this Ben11567 seem way too quick judge people like me. Accusing of wrong information like blowing up kitchens doors, taking hostage chef, also providing no info killing marines as PO then i killed one then i looked through cameras, i even admitted doing bad fire mission. I'm just sad that i waited a month to appeal docs job ban and i got banned again. Then two weeks passed was thinking appealing VC ban now i'm banned by the same guy. Now again i need to wait a month to appeal. I'm worried because only interesting rolls i got spec and smg guy, if i accidentally blow up some marines, i will again get banned by the same guy. I really don't like to bother people, but it seems Ben11567 is banning people for any minor things, making all people frustrated and wasting time.
    Evidence
    VC- chat ban
    https://gyazo.com/776d6e23c9cde21bd206ecd2e74a5cd7
    https://gyazo.com/21626bf06ab0ac1685c315be92cd5b7d
    https://gyazo.com/196c1ee7e7520fdbe797e029b78a16cf
    https://gyazo.com/05389a1aa19a2f428d94947371d0c832
    https://gyazo.com/b240403cbaa80717c51bb6668e3d7a0e
    https://gyazo.com/91a372f294a017b9e24fd50f764f1a9d
    https://gyazo.com/953a4cc4fcced55e83abf70999a76fc9
    https://gyazo.com/0e7abd5e9cad6f82e701bd3984220851
    https://gyazo.com/2d2afc2835924c38fe00123230dce179
    https://gyazo.com/7bdc17c1db8b0f4b9a2dab287740eae4
    https://gyazo.com/85d285d1fa66847d9ee56c88ae72a514
    https://gyazo.com/1595b9afaa080047023ed22055b77112
    https://gyazo.com/85c6d01957901df3c9cd20cccae736e6
    https://gyazo.com/869ec9a48b4fdb0cfabead15c3bfde40
    https://gyazo.com/eeb80364216c0b467d5b200f34bf1f00
    https://gyazo.com/946e439eecf117812169b7ef5863f012 - was typing fast, wated to say chef not chief
    https://gyazo.com/22256f0ffbe600234bc8c366b48456d0
    https://gyazo.com/a2b3ac7842b9a1aa1defa8e2c84852c6
    https://gyazo.com/03a8a8956f2be4888db090b5e99aa247
    https://gyazo.com/df6376655f59d8607b5f374e28ec94b8
    https://gyazo.com/b54c02cdd5ddd68f27555e610f2c4622
    https://gyazo.com/793aa3b5e0b720351af6360e79e345d6
    https://gyazo.com/51d492215752fe69db27df00db5ae01a
    https://gyazo.com/ab8cd5661c1ff80bc279cc249428e41f
    https://gyazo.com/48afec034e68fdcc3370cde2fb0c38b4
    https://gyazo.com/28e8c377b50322ebf16790f619b9467f
    https://gyazo.com/6bb6c834d3653e8409ad1780dde7f26e
    https://gyazo.com/a53625337db6bb3fd5a7e92c0099429f
    https://gyazo.com/0c5b81dbda6a0e96484f9e0bc1f7245e
    PO- chat ban
    https://gyazo.com/63d47982b106ade20aa8682903b440a1
    https://gyazo.com/5a610cd6ea7fe3c273298eeff714f3eb
    https://gyazo.com/e79d7283983a7263c4af4d02b85ab7da
    https://gyazo.com/e5808bb502f194642fbef7546dc338c4
    https://gyazo.com/77270fc34bbad1ac3f4688ea43f1554a
    https://gyazo.com/8f1fb904798021536c850660cbbe18be
    https://gyazo.com/38cdb8c4b0da9690ef9152ebc4feb26e
    https://gyazo.com/7be53bc4027f4054b76530a2585f0b10
    https://gyazo.com/da03ba75c6de60b591848274abaca5d1
    https://gyazo.com/896c5e2fa25151c6ab064ac755f1438a
    https://gyazo.com/2cf3464f85ebb7039278065da083d213
    https://gyazo.com/08f30cfdd07c9654d1cb829c4132ce38
    https://gyazo.com/8d5d4946a37a9200273b9cc21098a6e6
    https://gyazo.com/5e02097e78a1500d54093253acf14644
    https://gyazo.com/ac2df0746946d46a35f42d8e7e534163
    https://gyazo.com/355d67edbe8253c846ebbc571d3282de
    https://gyazo.com/cee70197d516975a9b7974d4cc14c207
    https://gyazo.com/e0ff3cfefffe9059a05175ad9342326a
    https://gyazo.com/fe1483046e7848a74f5cf20b6417e9d0
    https://gyazo.com/eab1ef521831f44a3279cd1d939cc671
    https://gyazo.com/21765ad3629a8a6247d456c6e933f002
    https://gyazo.com/7c1cfe6203fd12fee7789949b1a30f7f

    Got both games chat logs, don't know how to post them, it's first staff report i'm making.
    How you would punish the accused
    Mostly don't wanna punish the guy. Just wanna moderators to inform and motivate people and not to ban. It should be last priority to ban a player for job ban or permaban. Please other personnel talk to Ben11567 to go easy on the bans. If not more people will start complaining.

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    Reading your logs that you posted it’s a violation of our RP standards to do that as a vehicle crewman, thats shenanigans at the most expected from a PFC, and even then just shooting a door open and hitting someone with the process to steal alcoholic beverages from the CL is really dumb.

    we will not investigate that part of the report, the only thing we will investigate is the allegations of pilot officer griefing.
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    CAS's first run begins.
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    First run FF logs.
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    First run reaction. Bad CAS called.
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    Grimzlex apologizes.
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    First ahelp on CAS comes in. Ben looks into it after the second mission.
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    Second fire-run begins, same flight.
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    Second run FF logs.
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    Second run reaction.
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    Second ahelp on CAS comes in.
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    Ben11567 messages Grimzlex. Grimzlex launches during the ahelp, beginning third run, second flight.
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    Third run FF logs, Grimzlex fires during the a-help.
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    The a-help continues. Grimzlex is slept and banned.
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    For the record, I was the one that told Ben to apply the month ban, because from my perspective this seemed like a violation of your probation, which would typically result in reapplication of your permanent ban. I was also witnessing this, and you were slept While gearing up for a FOURTH airstrike.

    This seemed pretty evident that you were aware of what was going on and continuing to do so. Just yesterday I believe I spoke to you as well because I had reports of you firing the SADAR into groups of marines. At the time you claimed to be new so I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now it just seems like you're grabbing roles with destructive potential and intentionally friendly firing with them.

    It's not a crime to make a mistake, because sometimes we do stupid things. It is however cause for suspicion about whether or not it was a mistake when you repeatedly make egregious mistakes in spite of obvious feedback that you're making a mistake, namely everyone screaming at you to stop and literal messages to stop.

    Up until the third airstrike while we were speaking to you about the first two I was still prepared to cut you some slack.

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    Regarding the VC ban, it was a more senior member of staff who recommended a VC job ban and took over the ahelp as I was busy in game.

    With the CAS strike itself, the first ahelp I got I responded that it was an IC issue, sometimes bad CAS and OBs are called and we don’t punish for incompetence. You acknowledged over comms that you were sorry after being told you hit marines. However it was when you decided to fire on the same spot a minute later that I decided to get involved. You responded with the argument that you “only gibbed one marine”. At this point I wasn’t going to ban you, I didn’t recognise your name and thought you might just be a new player. But then you launched the Normandy again and hit a large group of marines for the 3rd time.

    When I messaged you asking why you launched that third CAS strike your defence was that “I did not know how it was fired, I was chatting with you.” After telling you that logs show it was you, your next excuse was that “maybe misclick I guess.” While this was going on another mod jumped to you and noticed you had launched the Normandy and was preparing for a 4th CAS strike, luckily they were there to sleep you before you killed any more marines. You then started shouting random stuff in ahelps and that is when I issued the ban.

    For me and the other staff on the server is was obvious that you were purposely griefing. You have a note history of lrp/grief, staff members online at the time had noticed you’ve been making a lot of “mistakes” recently when it comes to blowing up marines and your excuses for why you blew up marines 3 times and tried to do it a 4th were poor. Considering the fact you carried on blowing up the same spots claiming it was a “misclick” while staff were messaging you shows to me that you were not taking this issue seriously and had no intention to properly rp. Add all this on top of the fact you are on probation and I believe the ban is justified.

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    I’ve reviewed everything and this is way beyond your standard incompetence. Once or twice maybe, but not four times. The ban was justified. We won’t ban people for making a mistake once, but you kept bombing marines even while being bwoinked, and being on probation for griefing in the past, you don’t get your hand held.

    It’ll be up to forest if this is considered a violation to fail probation, but Youre free to appeal your month ban and the admins can decide.
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