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Thread: removing ability for xeno to see marines name and marines to see xeno name

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    I remember devs saying this cant be done well/efficiently

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    Metatargeting is not an issue in CM. The very few occurances are really not worth the trouble. People can change their IC name.

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    It was proposed long time ago, supposedly its impossible to do in BYOND.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    It was proposed long time ago, supposedly its impossible to do in BYOND.
    if goon did it we can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan_albatross View Post
    if goon did it we can do it.
    But the black outlines won't work with TDM we got in CM. Benos need to be able to know if you are carrying shotgun, if you are SADAR, or if you are just having a weak pulse rifle.

    The concept before was to make benos unable to see marine names (numbers instead), while marines being unable to see xeno prefixes (only numbers).
    This would be perfect solution that fits CM gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    But the black outlines won't work with TDM we got in CM. Benos need to be able to know if you are carrying shotgun, if you are SADAR, or if you are just having a weak pulse rifle.

    The concept before was to make benos unable to see marine names (numbers instead), while marines being unable to see xeno prefixes (only numbers).
    This would be perfect solution that fits CM gameplay.
    This wouldn't be suuuuper hard, we can use the system for gas masks making you show up as unknown but change it so from a benos POV you always show up as unknown
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    What about is12 system?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan_albatross View Post
    This wouldn't be suuuuper hard, we can use the system for gas masks making you show up as unknown but change it so from a benos POV you always show up as unknown
    Then do it. Code it in and submit it on Gitlab.
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    This seems like an absolute non-issue? Most xenos don’t even bother remembering the name of the SADAR this round. And the closest thing to meta-targeting I see is deadchat celebration when some of the better known Xenos get taken out.

    In the heat of the battle, very few players seem to bother actually checking names of what they are clicking, so I’m not sure what more obfuscation is supposed to accomplish there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FortyPercent View Post
    This seems like an absolute non-issue? Most xenos don’t even bother remembering the name of the SADAR this round. And the closest thing to meta-targeting I see is deadchat celebration when some of the better known Xenos get taken out.

    In the heat of the battle, very few players seem to bother actually checking names of what they are clicking, so I’m not sure what more obfuscation is supposed to accomplish there?

    It's not a non-issue.
    Roleplay wise: "Hey did you see lurker BOO here?"
    Gameplay wise: I know to avoid BOO because I know the player is good

    Same things the other way, with xenos able to refer to marines by name, and avoid specific marines because they're familiar with the player through metaknowledge.

    It may not be a big problem, but it IS a problem and should be treated as such. I feel like the same things you're saying now would've made just as much sense to you if we were talking about marines and xenos being able to understand each other; "It's not really a big deal, when are they ever going to talk anyway?" etc etc

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