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    razor - Commanding Officer Application

    Commanding Officer Whitelist Application
    Personal InformationByond ID?
    Razor39

    Player Name You Use Most?
    Jonathan Fox

    Make a list of links to all of your ban appeals as well as whitelist and staff applications (both accepted and denied) submitted within the past year. For appeals, provide an additional ban reason and the appeal’s verdict next to the link.
    https://cm-ss13.com/forums/showthrea...ighlight=razor
    Don't know if this counts but recieved a false positive sticky ban from system.

    Have you received any bans in the last month?
    No

    What is your timezone in UTC?
    UTC+02

    What is your discord username and handle?
    Dont have discord

    Basic Questions & StoryWhat do you think is the job of a Commander?
    In my opinion the Commander is a idol for the marines. He has to be capable of filling in any role on the ship and leading marines to victory. This position requires a lot of skill in leadership and thus the Commander is the most difficult person on marine side but the most important also. His actions can decide about victory or defeat.

    To be precise about the job, the Commander has to ensure marines have everything at hand to fulfill their operation. Be it trough Req or trough overwatch functions.

    Why do you want to be a Commanding Officer?
    Playing for a long time now and experiencing many different rounds, I started to get into leadership and loved it from the beginning. Recently I played alot of XO for the marines.

    I got attached to setting up different tactics for marines and how you can impact a round by your decisions. After gaining so much experience it is time for me to extend my vision and apply for the Commander position.

    When becoming Commander I plan to add more Roleplay stuff to the rounds, starting with writing operation papers, or better Briefings.

    What do you think you could contribute by being whitelisted?
    As already stated before I bring in more roleplay for the players. Also developing new tactics to make new funny rounds cause the Commander decides how a round flows.

    Moreover I would encourage the shipside people to have more fun too. Mostly its marines deploying and then metarushing leaving little to no fun for the rest of the marine side.

    How will your Commanding Officer behave? Describe their character.
    Jonathan is a calm and friendly Commander. He prefers to keep under the marines instead of sealing off from the lower ranked. He acts very brotherly but he is also abiding strictly to the guidelines and can be serious in situations that require it.

    He is not afraid of taking front position and risking his life for the greater good. After he accompanied several Commanders in other missions, he got influenced by them and learned to use superior tactics instead of blind raging hostiles.

    Name and briefly describe your Commanding Officer's own ship.
    The USS Valor is a destroyer class ship, with only 189 meters beeing smaller then the USS Almayer but equipped with stronger weaponary. It has loaded eight 0.75cm/140 Mark 74 General Atomics railguns, 35 Mark 33 ASAT-LS systems with mark nine nuclear warheads. But has only one AUD-25 Dropship with no armament and only a very small bataillon with no mechanized troops on board.

    The USS Valor was created 2136, two years after The Arikara-class patrol transport vessel was intodruced. The USS Valor's main goal is to track and hunt hostile ships down. It was assigned to the third fleet and joined 2165 the Operation Canton.

    Your story (potential topics listed below)
    Jonathan Fox was born in 08/22/2141 and joined the Military once he reached legal age. He was admitted to the officer cadet program and took several lessons in the college under the retired Commodore Evan Hill. After finishing college in year 2163, he had a irrepressible hatred and anger against UPP. Freshly out of military academy, he got assigned to serve in the USS Valor, under the Commander Riaz Phelps, as a lieutenant in his crew. They were patroling between Sol and Eridani Sector.

    When 2165 the Operation Canton started, the USS Valor was comissioned to patrol around the close sectors near Canton Operation Site. The USS Valor destroyed three hostile frigates with not recieving major damage. After a short period of time without incidents, they got into trouble. They crossed a Battleship of the UPP, which was led by mayjor Dmitriy Petrov. During combat the USS Valor got boarded by a 1st Kommando. The 1st Kommando consists of elite troops fitted with specialised weaponary.

    Once the boarding party got spotted by the AN/LIDAR-7 system, the Commander Phelps himself left Combat Information Center and moved together with a small bataillon to repel the boarders. During the fight, the Commander got hit by a stray bullet and was loosing many blood. At the brink of dead he called that Jonathan Fox will take over command over the ship and ordered him to not leave the ship in hands of the UPP. He reacted quickly and sent a distress beacon. In the meantime he rallied together all troops in the CIC for a last stand. The 1st Kommando was already breaching into the CIC and about to kill the remaining troops, however the distress beacon got luckily picked up by a nearby USCM frigate. They sent in further troops and together they killed all 1st Kommando troops. After the boarding party had been repelled, the USS Valor and the USS Saxon destroyed the UPP Battleship. USCM High Command recieved a report of the incident.

    High Command held a memorial for Commander Phelps at Chinook 91 GSO station and promoted Fox into the rank of a Commander to fill in his position. The USS Valor got sent back together with Commander Fox into the outer rim to put down Herculis Colonial Insurrection after Operation Canton was over.

    ExperienceHow experienced are you with the position of a Squad Leader (SL)?
    Very Experienced.

    I play SL in Alpha or Delta most of the time and got a good insight of how leading on the groundside or using AUX support effectivly.

    How experienced are you with the position of a Staff Officer (SO)?
    Experienced.

    Actually I prefer playing XO so this role has a bit of a shortage on me but the times I played it, I enjoyed it very much and it was less stressful concentrating on Overwatching one squad only.

    How experienced are you with the position of a Department Head?
    CE - Low Experienced

    Played as CE two times so far but I learned everything about engineering trough other roles and can fill in this roles also if necessary.

    RO - Experienced

    Love supplying marines and filled this role for a good number of rounds already. Sometimes I had to take this role as XO.

    CMP - Low Experienced

    Had many rounds as MP but not many as CMP. I plan to play more of this Head role in the next days to get better in this point.

    CMO - Very Experienced

    I loved the round playing as doctor and took over some times as CMO. It is great to heal marines and then hear a "thanks doctor". Also beeing responsible for medbay and chems is something good.

    How experienced are you with the position of the Executive Officer (XO)?
    Very Experienced.

    This is my personal favourite. I served under some solid captains and had good chances of leading Operations myself when either none was there or they left me leading. Gained very much experience and this role brought me here. The XO is the Captains secret weapon.

    How familiar are you with Marine Law and Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)?
    Very Experienced.

    Considering I played many rounds as Military Police, I had to deal with SOP very often and as XO I had to refer to it in common situations. Having it opened in the back, can be very helpful, which I often do.

    ScenariosWhen do you believe a Battlefield Execution should be used? List some examples of scenarios in which a battlefield execution would be correctly used.
    Battlefield Execution is a right, that has been given to the Commander, to execute anyone under his command at any given time without a warning. Against the opinion of most persons, Battlefield Execution is not a last resort tool, it is something you can do any time BUT you will be held responsible for it and you always need a good reason to do so.

    Situations where Battlefield Executions are permissible:

    1: During Briefing a charlie marine activly and agressivly states that he wants to mutiny and undermines my command. After warnings he proceeds and tries to encourage further marines to go against Command and refuse to go groundside after the order has been given directly to him.

    2: During req line a alpha marine states that he wants to kill a marine of delta because he took his spot. He draws his weapon and aims for another marine. In the role as commander I cannot allow harm to any fellow marines in my presence and that person would be subject to Execution.

    3: A person is doing constantly damage to the Almayer and to the Operation by, as example, dismantling APCs near CIC and stealing Materials from Req that were about to be sent groundside. That Person would be subject to Execution to avoid further damage to the sucess of the Operation.

    Situations where Battlefield Executions are not permissible:

    1: A marine got arrested by Military Police for killing another marine in my presence. Once the Cuffs are on the suspect, the suspect goes over into Military Police custody and is under their protection now. Battlefield Executions cannot be done here from the moment the cuffs are on.

    2: After operation goes forth and back a marine argues and tell me that he advises another tactic to break the stalemate. I consist on my tactic and then he tells me that I am not capable of understanding the situation and not a good leader. This situation would not warrant a Battlefield Exection since its just a criticism. If he has good reasons I should listen to his ideas instead of Executing him for his criticism.

    3: On roundstart a bravo marine walks up to me and says "Hey Captain, you stink". Minor insults should not warrant a Battlefield Execution. This situation should be handled with Military Police help.

    Under what circumstances do you believe it is legal to pardon a prisoner? What are some examples of crimes you would pardon, and those you would not?
    A prisoner should be pardoned if he poses a crucial role that would be necessary for the victory of the operation. For pardoning a prisoner I need to roughly know the time when the crime was commited and the crime that has been done. If the crime is a capital one, I have to fax HC about pardoning it.

    Examples of crimes I would pardon:

    1: The delta demolitionist specialist got arrested for breaking windows in cyro and resisting arrest. Considering his ability to support frontline with the RPG and taking out major targets I would pardon the person and send him to frontline to help our boys.

    2: The req officer got arrested for refusing to serve line and now the FOB lacks materials to setup strongly. If I cannot replace the RO, I would pardon him and ensure he supplies the marines after beeing set free.

    Examples of crimes I would not pardon:

    1: The CMO killed several marines on purpose in their preps by drugging them with pills. I would not set that men free again risking that he kills more when set free. Even though he is the CMO and has a important part of keeping Medbay up.

    2: The CE got declared not to be sound of mind by the CMO and represents a danger to everyone around him. I would not pardon that person and risk that he does something insane risking the operation.

    What is your routine after starting the round as either a Staff Officer or Executive Officer? Assume you joined round-start and are inside your quarters.
    I can talk from my experience as XO.

    Once I wake up I greet everyone at comms. Then I walk for the CIC and set everything up. First checking if the Captain has a plan, if one is awake. If not I go ahead and make up a plan and announce a briefing time and the location. Then I head down to medbay to pick up a medhud quick to see revivable marines over overwatch.

    After that I set LZ and ask over engineer channel to load the OB and what OB ammunition. Then I check if all departments have what they need and if req needs my assitance. If not I go ahead and keep writing up a plan or operation papers.

    Then I inform the Pilots over radio about take off time and move to the briefing. In the briefing I hand out the papers to the SLs and tell everyone their orders.

    After briefing is over I run to the bird and wish the dropping marines luck. Then I head to CIC and take position to lead the operation.

    If there is enough time before briefing I try to do some funny stuff with the marines like bball game or breakfast.

    How would you handle insubordinate departments? State what you would do for each department if they were insubordinate.
    Insubordinate departments are a huge problem to the operation and need to be dealt harshly.

    Requisitions:

    If req would be insubordinate I would remind them of their importance for the operation and keep yelling at them to resume their duties. If they refuse I would take actions against them and set them for arrest. If they get arrested, I would replace them with CIC staff or synth.

    Engineering:

    This department is not as important as the Requisitions and I would just encourage them to keep up their duty. If they refuse I would do the same as with req and set them for arrest and then just replace them. This one wouldn't disturb me much.

    Medical:

    The Medical department is very important cause they mean constant flow of marines. The wounded get treated here. I would take it very serious and talk to them personally if necessary and threaten them with actions. I would send the Synth to fill in their roles if there is one to keep the medical support up.

    Security:

    This department can't be insubordinate since its definded in the rules and I would ahelp about it. They can however complain about me by faxing High Command and I cant deny them this. If necessary I would deputize and send replacements then.

    CIC:

    If my own leading troops would go against me I would be very strict and take quick actions against them.

    How would you handle an understaffed CIC? What if you and the XO are the only available CIC crew?
    I have to deal with lowpop very often and thus I already have a procedere of dealing with it. I fill in every necessary position and communicate as double as much.

    So when the XO and I am the only one in CIC I would leave him at the CIC in order and fill out the other positions till more crew wakes up. CO and XO can do alot of work together.

    What would you do if you were deployed and a marine told you they were going to desert the operation?
    If a marine would directly tell me that hes deserting I would go ahead and encourage him. I would give him the direct order once again and if he refuses again I would treat this as treason against myself and use the Battlefield Execution right or call the Military Police to arrest him for a capital crime.

    ConfirmationsDo you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
    Yes

    Do you understand you cannot advertise or promote this application on any platform, including Discord?
    Yes

    Do you also understand that you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by naut View Post
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    Sorry didnt recognize.

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    I've played with you more than a fair bit, I know you're a long time player and that you indeed are experienced with handling all things command related. You're a good player and your app answers are well written as well so I see no reason to give this app my +1
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    First of all i see some mistakes in your answers so let me point them out.

    In your BE answer you said you would BE a marine aiming a gun at another marine in req line. This would a bad idea since until they actually shoot its only considered an assault with a deadly weapon and on its own does not constitute a BE, you are still within your right to arrest the marine however. Next in your pardon answer you stated "The req officer got arrested for refusing to serve line and now the FOB lacks materials to setup strongly. If I cannot replace the RO, I would pardon him and ensure he supplies the marines after beeing set free." in this situation the RO is being held on false charges because as per SOP the RO may refuse to service anyone including officers and may only be overruled on this by the commander. You should release the RO and charge the MP arresting him instead. Lastly its never a good idea to pardon someone for a sole reason of them being important for the operation. Almost anyone can be replaced and when you pardon someone who then commits another crime you will be held responsible as well. Not to mention that pardoning a spec just because he is spec sets a really bad precedence for specialist roles getting away with everything just because they are who they are.

    All that being said however i know you to be a damn good XO and what is perhaps most important for me is that you try and roleplay on the ship. I have seen you multiple times playing delta SL and you did quite well. I also played with you many times in the CIC and can say that it was always a pleasant experience and you did really really well in command of the operation. The above mistakes can be learned in time and i am sure that if you do happen to make a mistake you will learn from it.

    Overall you have my +1 and i am looking forward to seeing you as CO

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    Saw you long ago, which means you have more than enough experience. Others said nice words as well about you

    +1

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    There are a few concerns after reading this application, first things first why what you may contribute as a whitelisted, your answer was, "As already stated before I bring in more roleplay for the players. Also developing new tactics to make new funny rounds cause the Commander decides how a round flows.Moreover I would encourage the shipside people to have more fun too. Mostly its marines deploying and then metarushing leaving little to no fun for the rest of the marine side.". What you intend is to make funny rounds as you are well aware CO is a serious role and indeed what you decide will determine the fate of the marines at times but can you clarify more when you mean new tactics to make it funny? From my understanding, you are doing weird maneuvers or rather that may throw the game or that can lead to many marines deaths granted you can correct me by clarifying the intent or examples would be nice.

    Another issue I do see as Welferion did point out usually can't BE a marine in that situation it would be proper for MPs to handle unless the situation was he opened fired purposedly and continues to fire then he would be BE worthy. Granted in this situation, there are sometimes assholes that will disarm which at times can cause a marine to accidentally fire that can cause ill intent but that wouldn't warrant a BE either.
    I would argue in the third example, "3: A person is doing constantly damage to the Almayer and to the Operation by, as example, dismantling APCs near CIC and stealing Materials from Req that were about to be sent groundside. That Person would be subject to Execution to avoid further damage to the sucess of the Operation.". On the grounds if said person was stealing materials that wouldn't have warranted a BE rather would have MPs to deal with the situation but dismantling APCs on the other hand at the given moment you see them dismantling an APC either have them BEed for sabotaging which dismantling can fuck over the operation as overwatch/CIC consoles are key to ensure organization however stealing of materials doesn't warrant for a BE.

    Now just advise, not only Req Shit or overwatch but have to your ship is running top tip shape including ensuring security are adequately providing security and them giving proper charges as a CO have a bit more leeway in marine law. Being aware of how the ship and crew are running. For now gonna remain neutral till I see you in CIC position whether it's LT or XO I did see you briefly as a Warden but rarely heard of you but have seen your name before. You do have some grammatical errors many to count but I shall overlook such instances. I shall be remaining neutral for now I am leading towards -1 depending on how I see your command and how you answer my few questions.

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    1: The delta demolitionist specialist got arrested for breaking windows in cyro and resisting arrest. Considering his ability to support frontline with the RPG and taking out major targets I would pardon the person and send him to frontline to help our boys.
    even if that spec wasn't a demolitionist it wouldn't make all that much of a difference, they're a specialist making a very minor crime that did not hinder the operation.
    also this
    2: During req line a alpha marine states that he wants to kill a marine of delta because he took his spot. He draws his weapon and aims for another marine. In the role as commander I cannot allow harm to any fellow marines in my presence and that person would be subject to Execution..
    Until the guy starts shooting BEing them on the spot is going to get you ahelped, best case nothing happens, and worst case you lose your whitelist. Again not every CO will have an MP gear on their hand or MP available so I'll kinda give you a pass on this, But don't do that, please.
    1: During Briefing a charlie marine activly and agressivly states that he wants to mutiny and undermines my command. After warnings he proceeds and tries to encourage further marines to go against Command and refuse to go groundside after the order has been given directly to him.
    You don't have to BE him for that, normal execution work as well, Although I'll give you a pass as marine that refuse to go ground-side will typically be ready to resist arrest.
    I don't see why you shouldn't be a captain considering the past whitelisted captain we have, so I'll just say you'll probably be fine.
    decent answer elsewhere.
    +1
    Last edited by special2kira; 11-16-2020 at 12:27 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulferion View Post
    First of all i see some mistakes in your answers so let me point them out.

    In your BE answer you said you would BE a marine aiming a gun at another marine in req line. This would a bad idea since until they actually shoot its only considered an assault with a deadly weapon and on its own does not constitute a BE, you are still within your right to arrest the marine however. Next in your pardon answer you stated "The req officer got arrested for refusing to serve line and now the FOB lacks materials to setup strongly. If I cannot replace the RO, I would pardon him and ensure he supplies the marines after beeing set free." in this situation the RO is being held on false charges because as per SOP the RO may refuse to service anyone including officers and may only be overruled on this by the commander. You should release the RO and charge the MP arresting him instead. Lastly its never a good idea to pardon someone for a sole reason of them being important for the operation. Almost anyone can be replaced and when you pardon someone who then commits another crime you will be held responsible as well. Not to mention that pardoning a spec just because he is spec sets a really bad precedence for specialist roles getting away with everything just because they are who they are.

    All that being said however i know you to be a damn good XO and what is perhaps most important for me is that you try and roleplay on the ship. I have seen you multiple times playing delta SL and you did quite well. I also played with you many times in the CIC and can say that it was always a pleasant experience and you did really really well in command of the operation. The above mistakes can be learned in time and i am sure that if you do happen to make a mistake you will learn from it.

    Overall you have my +1 and i am looking forward to seeing you as CO
    Thanks for the quick reply. I am always open for criticism as it will help me in my development process. Playing several rounds together in CIC with you, I learned much about commanding and roleplay.

    About the BE reason, I was refering to Marine Law where it states "A threat to persons. Credibly threatening and attempting to do harm to the Captain or to someone while in the Captain's presence.". Would it not be count as threathening and attempting to do harm, considering that marine states his intention to kill another one and even points his gun on him, ready to shoot. But if I am false at this point, I will take it for the future and let Military Police deal with it.

    As you already said, the RO can deny attachments which I kept in mind but if he gets ordered by Command to serve, they can override his orders as far as I know. Knowing that lack of materials could blow the Operation, I would talk to the RO and ask him to serve. If its just for a single marine that constantly wants his attachment and caused trouble in the req line, I would go with what you said.

    The only reason I would pardon the spec though, is for him comitting minor crimes and holding that fire power back, would uncessary hinder the operation. If I have doubts about him, I would refer from pardoning him knowing that he could cause further trouble after setting free.

    Anyways I will keep everything in mind and think about it carefully again. Thanks for the heads up. I see forward to serve with you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyguychizzy View Post
    There are a few concerns after reading this application, first things first why what you may contribute as a whitelisted, your answer was, "As already stated before I bring in more roleplay for the players. Also developing new tactics to make new funny rounds cause the Commander decides how a round flows.Moreover I would encourage the shipside people to have more fun too. Mostly its marines deploying and then metarushing leaving little to no fun for the rest of the marine side.". What you intend is to make funny rounds as you are well aware CO is a serious role and indeed what you decide will determine the fate of the marines at times but can you clarify more when you mean new tactics to make it funny? From my understanding, you are doing weird maneuvers or rather that may throw the game or that can lead to many marines deaths granted you can correct me by clarifying the intent or examples would be nice.
    Thanks for replying too. I already played some rounds with you but you may not have recognized me. As you already said, totally new tactics can cause marines to die and the operation to fail horribly. That's why I only use tactics that I have deeply planned and expect them to work. Already seeing how other captains tried tactics like "Split Deployment" or "FOB other then LZ" and those failed most of the time. It's more about how the plan is executed. I know that new fresh tactics can fail. But they can also work totally perfect. It's up to the command and the marines wheter it works or not. I dont talk about tactics that will throw everything over. More like minor improvements to break stalemates and allow marines to achieve better positioning.

    As example: Marines are fighting at LV-624 inside east caves. We know this situation very well, where marines cannot advance further to the chokepoint blocking them and boiler gas killing them. I would then leave one squad to hold the position at east caves and setup two other squads at west or central caves to perform a flank, to break the gas stalemate. As you already said, this can horrible fail too and get the flank killed depending on how xenos reacts. But holding the choke and advancing into the gas, can too. If I see the xenos react to that flank with a strong counter push, I would adapt according to the situation.

    About what I said with shipside crew: I mean do some events like basketball game or play cards with them at R&R. After operation a memorial to remember the fallen marines.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shyguychizzy View Post
    Another issue I do see as Welferion did point out usually can't BE a marine in that situation it would be proper for MPs to handle unless the situation was he opened fired purposedly and continues to fire then he would be BE worthy. Granted in this situation, there are sometimes assholes that will disarm which at times can cause a marine to accidentally fire that can cause ill intent but that wouldn't warrant a BE either.
    I would argue in the third example, "3: A person is doing constantly damage to the Almayer and to the Operation by, as example, dismantling APCs near CIC and stealing Materials from Req that were about to be sent groundside. That Person would be subject to Execution to avoid further damage to the sucess of the Operation.". On the grounds if said person was stealing materials that wouldn't have warranted a BE rather would have MPs to deal with the situation but dismantling APCs on the other hand at the given moment you see them dismantling an APC either have them BEed for sabotaging which dismantling can fuck over the operation as overwatch/CIC consoles are key to ensure organization however stealing of materials doesn't warrant for a BE.
    Like you already referred to Situation 3: The overall situation has to be considered. Only stealing materials is not a good reason to BE but together with the dismantling APC in CIC hes clearly sabotating. Same goes for the situation in Req line.

    Anyways I hope I can convince you of my ability to lead and fill in the position of the commanding officer. Will give it a shot and play more the next days, so you can get a chance of seeing me. Looking forward to see you in game.

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