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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Compy View Post
    Alright, I've taken some thought into this and have decided to not support your application at this time.


    Primarily because of your behavior. With the report involving you as XO and how you handled the situation and such was not at all acceptable.

    And I also don't recall you ever playing SL, and if you did, you didn't stand out at all.

    - Doctor Compy
    Which report as the XO? the one with the Warden? that was completely out of my control. I understand the sentiment but what I did was not wrong nor was it "unprofessional". I am sorry if I seem I am coming off rude but all that happened was I was authorized to make the arrest legally, tried to, was beaten. Could you explain to me how It was not acceptable so I can try to correct it in the future? Thanks

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    How you acted on wanting to remove the Warden from the round with the BE, wanted to remove their badge for doing their job, and lack of proper investigation on your part.


    The whole situation could have bene avoided if you talked with the Warden and investigated what was happening instead of jumping straight into the extreme ignoring their ML requirements which makes it seem you don't know ML very well nor the role of MP which the CO most certainly needs to know and thoroughly understand.

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    I'm afraid I have to agree with Compy here. Your actions as XO are the most important for the council to look at and, while the report wasn't against you, you were the XO that round. This gives a... unique opportunity for the council to pick apart your thought process and actions in what we can normally only use as a hypothetical scenario.

    Important to remember regarding insubordination and the MPs is they cannot be ordered to not arrest someone, of course.

    Your involvement in the report, particularly your part in escalating the situation, isn't something I'm quite pleased with. The fact that your handling of the situation, which was to immediately advocate for the MW's removal for what was going on, goes so far against how you stated you'd handle such a situation on this very application, however, is more pressing and concerning. The entire situation leaves me both with a negative impression of what could be expected from you as CO and a level of doubt about how honest the answers on this application are (or, at least, in if they can be interpreted in a straightforward way). Because of this, I can't in good conscience give my support to this application. I'm going to have to give this a -1

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    Quote Originally Posted by FGRSentinel View Post
    I'm afraid I have to agree with Compy here. Your actions as XO are the most important for the council to look at and, while the report wasn't against you, you were the XO that round. This gives a... unique opportunity for the council to pick apart your thought process and actions in what we can normally only use as a hypothetical scenario.

    Important to remember regarding insubordination and the MPs is they cannot be ordered to not arrest someone, of course.

    Your involvement in the report, particularly your part in escalating the situation, isn't something I'm quite pleased with. The fact that your handling of the situation, which was to immediately advocate for the MW's removal for what was going on, goes so far against how you stated you'd handle such a situation on this very application, however, is more pressing and concerning. The entire situation leaves me both with a negative impression of what could be expected from you as CO and a level of doubt about how honest the answers on this application are (or, at least, in if they can be interpreted in a straightforward way). Because of this, I can't in good conscience give my support to this application. I'm going to have to give this a -1
    I'll use this to formally explain my process of what happened in that report as that seems to be the source of two -1s already on the application. The only escalation I performed was the suggestion of the removal of the warden from their duties. This was only because the warden was constantly going against the orders of the captain and interfering with requestions. At the time I believed that this would actively hinder the operation for the reason the MW constantly wanted to arrest the CT for simply calling them a name. When told to cease the action and to let it go the MW would not. Let me remind you that this was the third arrest of the CT that had happened because of the warden. I suggested immediate dismissal to reduce the chance of it actually getting worse.

    As well, unlike Compy suggested I never wanted to remove the Warden from the round Via BE as I wanted this to just be over peacefully. The CO took my advice to remove the Warden, I was deputized, I ordered the MW to the ground and he refused. This is where I was hit with the stun baton and I screamed on the comms for assistance from the CO, which promptly arrived in the forms of shots from his revolver. He missed and as the marines witnessed outside he was killed by basically a lynch mob.

    As regards to the phrase [18:31:36]SAY: Karl 'Ausbruch' Walz: Announce the BE and deny him medical

    It was in reference to the fact that Captain Pacheco attempted the BE, shot him in the head afterward when he was downed. I told him in this case to do this as he actively tried to attack me as well as the captain. It came from the want to officialize the BE of the warden. As well as in the report for the piece I was involved in, the council ruled it a valid BE, the warning was only issued for the pardoning

    if there is anymore explaining that needs to be done on that matter or my personal thought process, even general ways to have improved the situation I would gladly love to speak on discord as to talk more over the matter
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    You have a marine calling for a mutiny on the ground and it seems he is gaining support. Would you inform MPs to equip anti RIOT gear to counter them once they came up, or would you go down there with MP escorts to BE him ? Try to explain why too
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    Quote Originally Posted by smov View Post
    You have a marine calling for a mutiny on the ground and it seems he is gaining support. Would you inform MPs to equip anti RIOT gear to counter them once they came up, or would you go down there with MP escorts to BE him ? Try to explain why too
    I am going to assume on this question that I have the ability to go groundside, this includes a staffed CIC willing to take over in my absence. As with the BE terms outlined in ML it explains "Battlefield Executions should not be done in such a way it creates collateral damage or risks involving innocent parties or persons...". I believe if given the time to pull a proper mutineering force together I would be unable to perform such an action aboard the Almayer. As well as starting a full-blown firefight against the Almayer would also create a lot more damage and risk members of the crew.

    So the option I would go with is: gather an MP honor guard to escort me ground side to personally BE the marine as CIC will be able to make sure the operation flows smoothly during my venture. Ground deployment is preferable as well as it instantly removes the threat and denies the precious time where the leading marine could gain more support among the ranks. I would announce the BE of the marine for charges of said mutiny as it actively began the staging of a mutiny proper. Through this route: the operation can continue via remaining CIC staff, the crew of the Almayer is preserved, and the threat handled directly at its core.

    Of course, though the best option is to try to negotiate with the marines to try to stop the mutiny calls in the first place, though many marines don't want to switch off the mutiny idea once it starts gathering steam.

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    Your answers to the questions provided are pretty good, I can't really fault you too hard on any of them and I've actually not got a lot of questions to ask, but I'll ask em anyway.

    Before I do that though, I will state that I have spoken to Superreallycoolguy over discord about what happened with that player report, and in all fairness it was a colossal mess of a round from many perspectives. They know how to handle it better for the future and I don't think this one incident belies a fundamental lack of understanding in SOP and Marine Law, but more likely an isolated incident.

    For what crimes is Termination of ID an acceptable outcome?

    For what crimes may you demote someone for?

    May you demote someone for being insubordinate?

    A marine is arrested for a minor charge, the specific charge does not matter. You decide to overrule their arrest and turn it into an NJP. Your choice of NJP is to tell the marine to deploy to the planet and do their job. No reprimand is given, and no duties outside of their normal duties is assigned to them. Is this an acceptable NJP?

    You order a Chief Medical Officer to deploy to the FOB. They refuse to carry out your order. Why?

    You have deployed to the planet while leaving your Executive Officer in charge of CIC duties. You spot a wounded lurker retreating back into the caves, weeds and xeno structures are nearby. Your marines are rather far behind you and not pushing but you are armed with a tactical shotgun and could potentially kill it if you rush into the caves.

    Lastly, What does Leadership mean to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somenerd View Post
    Your answers to the questions provided are pretty good, I can't really fault you too hard on any of them and I've actually not got a lot of questions to ask, but I'll ask em anyway.

    Before I do that though, I will state that I have spoken to Superreallycoolguy over discord about what happened with that player report, and in all fairness it was a colossal mess of a round from many perspectives. They know how to handle it better for the future and I don't think this one incident belies a fundamental lack of understanding in SOP and Marine Law, but more likely an isolated incident.

    For what crimes is Termination of ID an acceptable outcome?

    For what crimes may you demote someone for?

    May you demote someone for being insubordinate?

    A marine is arrested for a minor charge, the specific charge does not matter. You decide to overrule their arrest and turn it into an NJP. Your choice of NJP is to tell the marine to deploy to the planet and do their job. No reprimand is given, and no duties outside of their normal duties is assigned to them. Is this an acceptable NJP?

    You order a Chief Medical Officer to deploy to the FOB. They refuse to carry out your order. Why?

    You have deployed to the planet while leaving your Executive Officer in charge of CIC duties. You spot a wounded lurker retreating back into the caves, weeds and xeno structures are nearby. Your marines are rather far behind you and not pushing but you are armed with a tactical shotgun and could potentially kill it if you rush into the caves.

    Lastly, What does Leadership mean to you?

    1. The crimes of: Subterfuge specifically only has a termination of ID acceptable. However, as per SOP, the commander if they wish can turn any crimes with the outcome of a demotion into an ID termination. An example of this if the CE commits manslaughter, if the captain thinks it fit they can instead terminate their ID instead of a demotion.

    2. Demotion is for all Capital Crimes + Manslaughter

    3. you are not able to demote someone for being insubordinate, the only charge that comes with insubordination is brig time

    4. It is not a suitable punishment as the choice of NJP is not proper. This is because an NJP needs to be outside the duties considered normal for the marine. A Marine's normal duty is to deploy and fight on the ground, hence this is not a suitable punishment.

    5. They refuse because per SOP they are not allowed to deploy to the AO. The CMO is responsible for all shipside personnel, meaning they should not be heading down to a combat zone, that is what field surgeons and combat medics are for. Even then the surgeons should be in a safe place

    6. First off, I should not be ahead of the marines, frontlining shouldn't even be thought of as I am not supposed to be a PFC+. As a CO on the ground, my first objective should be coordinating the marines personally and directly. Even if I support and direct said pushes, I should be behind the marines whenever possible as again, I am a LOT more valuable alive. So the short answer is: No, I would absolutely not try to rush after the lurker into the caves, as that would be reckless and I would be borderline negligent of my duties.

    7. Leadership to me is a lot of things, the ability to be a figurehead to rally on, a person who can be always relied on is able to make the right choices quickly and efficiently. It's about being an inspiring person to look up to, to know you can trust their judgment and have full confidence in their ability to bring them and their followers through any situation they come across. In the eyes of a CO, it would be knowing all the CANs and CANNOTs of your men, knowing how to utilize each of them individually to their best. I also think it means making the right calls on the gut for the best of the men, but also being reasonable to listen to the lowest member of the Almayer and honestly considering their input. This could be as simple as a PVT telling their SL that they are overextending and they need to retreat. Leading alone is almost impossible, not one captain can fully understand every part of the battle and that's where the ability to process and listen to information comes in. I also believe one of the more overlooked parts of leadership is a failure, how to improve and realize that you messed up. Growth of ability is extremely important, leading your men and making a wrong call is always horrible, but the ability to realize what was done so wrong and vow to fix it is incredible. And lastly, you need to know when to stand your ground, at times calls will be made you are adamant and were confident of, marines get angry and your command will come into question. This is where a captain's ability to hold fast in the face of adversity comes in, you are supposed to be a stable leader, not a pushover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superreallycoolguy View Post
    1. The crimes of: Subterfuge specifically only has a termination of ID acceptable. However, as per SOP, the commander if they wish can turn any crimes with the outcome of a demotion into an ID termination. An example of this if the CE commits manslaughter, if the captain thinks it fit they can instead terminate their ID instead of a demotion.

    2. Demotion is for all Capital Crimes + Manslaughter

    3. you are not able to demote someone for being insubordinate, the only charge that comes with insubordination is brig time

    4. It is not a suitable punishment as the choice of NJP is not proper. This is because an NJP needs to be outside the duties considered normal for the marine. A Marine's normal duty is to deploy and fight on the ground, hence this is not a suitable punishment.

    5. They refuse because per SOP they are not allowed to deploy to the AO. The CMO is responsible for all shipside personnel, meaning they should not be heading down to a combat zone, that is what field surgeons and combat medics are for. Even then the surgeons should be in a safe place

    6. First off, I should not be ahead of the marines, frontlining shouldn't even be thought of as I am not supposed to be a PFC+. As a CO on the ground, my first objective should be coordinating the marines personally and directly. Even if I support and direct said pushes, I should be behind the marines whenever possible as again, I am a LOT more valuable alive. So the short answer is: No, I would absolutely not try to rush after the lurker into the caves, as that would be reckless and I would be borderline negligent of my duties.

    7. Leadership to me is a lot of things, the ability to be a figurehead to rally on, a person who can be always relied on is able to make the right choices quickly and efficiently. It's about being an inspiring person to look up to, to know you can trust their judgment and have full confidence in their ability to bring them and their followers through any situation they come across. In the eyes of a CO, it would be knowing all the CANs and CANNOTs of your men, knowing how to utilize each of them individually to their best. I also think it means making the right calls on the gut for the best of the men, but also being reasonable to listen to the lowest member of the Almayer and honestly considering their input. This could be as simple as a PVT telling their SL that they are overextending and they need to retreat. Leading alone is almost impossible, not one captain can fully understand every part of the battle and that's where the ability to process and listen to information comes in. I also believe one of the more overlooked parts of leadership is a failure, how to improve and realize that you messed up. Growth of ability is extremely important, leading your men and making a wrong call is always horrible, but the ability to realize what was done so wrong and vow to fix it is incredible. And lastly, you need to know when to stand your ground, at times calls will be made you are adamant and were confident of, marines get angry and your command will come into question. This is where a captain's ability to hold fast in the face of adversity comes in, you are supposed to be a stable leader, not a pushover.
    All are good answers!

    As I said before, I think you're probably better with Marine Law than what that report gives you credit for and I've seen you XO several times before and I've not got any concerns there.
    You try hard, you work for the marines and you try to make things engaging, I can't see any reason you'd be a problem CO. Just make sure you continue being hot on Marine Law.

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    Right, so, I've sat and thought about that incident a bit more and I will say that your actions in that round aren't in line with what I've seen from you since it went down. Initially I was going to simply assume that it was a fluke and retract the -1 in favor of giving you a chance to convince me, but your response to Somenerd's questions makes me feel that you're knowledgeable enough that I feel it wouldn't be necessary.

    Instead, I'll change my -1 to a +1 and wish you luck.

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