Swagile - Ban Appeal (Job/Role Ban)

[Swagile]

Ban Appeal

Byond ID?

Swagile

Do you confirm you have read the Appeal Rules and that this appeal conforms to them?

Yes

Character Name?

Amira Young

What is your discord tag? (If appealing a discord ban)

-

Type of Ban?

Job/Role Ban

If jobban, which job are you appealing?

Squad Leader

Admin who banned you (if known)

Somenerd

Total Ban Duration

Forever? Pretty sure job bans are forever due to the way Bayscript works.

Remaining Duration

N/A

What other servers do you play on?

Mostly CM nowadays, used to play a lot of Goon and /tg/.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?

Goon yeaaaars ago for saying the n word (no longer banned), /tg/ week ban a few months ago for not properly containing myself when xenomorph egg'd leading to a xenomorph outbreak.

Do you play using a Virtual Machine?

No

Is your copy of Windows legitimate?

Yes

Do you connect using a VPN? If so, which provider?

N/A

Reason for Ban

Refusing to deploy at roundstart as Squad Leader, with his whole squad, because two specialists and an engineer were arrested. Refused to deploy even with Moderator instruction.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

N/A

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc)

Role: Squad Leader.

So the round started off like all others, with me rolling Spec and boot to lobby if I don't get it. I didn't get it, clicked join USCM, saw 0 SL's, and clicked SL. Saw only a few engis and medics (concerning, but comes up later in this appeal), gear up, mass vend req, and talk to my squad.

XO says to leave our engis at FOB due to a lack of engis, which I agree to and make sure my squad knows that means we have to stick together since no cades = xeno advantage if we get hit hard enough to have defibbable marines.

We get a briefing at Hangar and Charlie SL gets arrested (first warning signs of a bad operation start). I ignore this and don't interfere as the SL also complies peacefully. I go to Alamo when I get my orders to check for gaps in fog, and then as I am seated around 12:20, I see Charlie Spec also get arrested (second warning sign). Then I get told this isn't the only spec arrested; there is another spec arrested, and a engineer was being arrested as well.

As a SL and CPT whitelist holder, I understand the flow of the game very well. I also know that being down TWO SPECS, an SL, and a Engineer (especially since we had only a few engis) would lead to massive issues as the game went on.

Here's a list of reasons why if your not familiar in how command works:

1. We are down a leadership figure [SL] (good orders + minor heals + big voice and constant communication so CIC will be out of the loop).
2. Down 2 specs (heavy firepower, needed to deter large groups of T1's + T2's, and small groupings of T3's).
3. Down a engi (already low on engis, down the engis round start turret + materials + cading skills).

So, in my view as a SL, we are already down one squad who will be disorganized due to the lack of a SL (an aSL can be employed, but losing your SL before drop has a 50/50 chance of demoralizing everyone in that squad to not listening to orders anyway), we are down two of our heavy supports that would ward off T3's, and we are down an engi that is crucial to ensuring the protection of wounded and so we have push up points.

I had legitimate reason to tell my squad that the "ops over" (as I phrased it) and told them to get off Alamo. I was not going to risk Delta squad on a op with so many crucial elements of the marine team behind bars, so we chilled at RnR.

After a while MP's started to get involved, first by checking up on us (why are you guys not deploying), then later tear gassing us as some of the more angsty marines started disarming MP's. During this time I started getting ahelped on why I was not deploying, and that I was breaking the rules by not deploying.

I stated my case and Somenerd decided to stick to his guns aka the rules instead of looking at my perspective as a SL and understand exactly why I wouldn't want to deploy. Seeing as he was ignoring my point of view and kept spouting that "its against the rules not to deploy as SL you have to deploy do it now or you will get banned" I ignored his viewpoint and ate a ban, both rolewise, and a 3 hour ingame ban.

I had an argument with him in ahelp as well about the fact that he should look into the MP side of things, because brigging crucial marine roles for 10 + minutes because they "broke a window" is bullshit, and was basically told the MP's are "just doing their job" aka protected OOCly from the consequences of their actions, while forcing me to deploy OOCly despite having legitimate concerns over the arresting of most of the crucial marine roles that round.

[Bibiex]

Notes for Swagile

[Ordukai]

This appeal has been assigned and will be reviewed by the admin team. Apologies for the delay.

[Swagile]

I don't want to be "that guy" but its been almost two weeks for both my Discord and SL ban appeal.

Is there a verdict, you guys are busy with IRL stuff, etc.?

[Ordukai]

Sorry about that, looks like there was a mistake/delay with the process for this one. We're looking at it right now.

[Sir Lordington]

You not only refused to deploy because your squad got brigged for doing dumb stuff, which compromises the integrity of the round and is reason enough to ban you from SL but you also decided to refuse the mod's instructions. You knew full well this was coming, and it's fully deserved.

Denied.