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    unknown - Rule 3

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    GoldenDarkness55

    Date of Incident
    April 23, 2021

    Your Character Name?
    Warrior RE-817-N4

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    unknown

    Accused Character Name
    Tibby Dobbs

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    08:48

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 3

    Description of the incident:
    I couldnt find a separate rule for cheating so reporting it as rule 3 which seems to be the closest.

    The player reloaded his MOU exceedingly fast (exactly 1 second), which is way faster than I believe possible without cheating somehow. I've seen many good players reload, including Hogg and neither of them managed to do it this ridiculously fast. I tried to replicate it on a local server but despite many tries my best attempt was still at least 0.2 of a second slower than his, keeping in mind his ping must've been higher and he's doing it in the middle of combat.

    Also attaching a clip of his very high knife throwing speed - I believe this one to be possible through simple macro usage, but people claimed it's sketchy how fast he does it aswell.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    https://streamable.com/hmdb1v MOU reload
    https://streamable.com/u75opw throwing knives
    https://streamable.com/9tpqkq Frame by frame MOU
    https://streamable.com/xfz5bk Frame by frame replication attempt (I manage to insert the shells within 1 second, but do not manage to close the MOU proper which would raise time total by roughly 0.2)

    How you would punish the accused:
    Permaban if confirmed as cheating.

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    Tibby here.
    The ingame hotkeys can make the MOU reload less of a pain. But what some people don't know is that you can have different actions set to the same button.

    9EXGYyAtDC.png oTuyPP0yr5.png Here I have swap hands and unique action (open/close chamber) both set to my "G" key
    To replicate this, I first have my unloaded and wielded MOU and hit the "G" key twice to open and swap my hand to grab shells (doing it once will only open the chamber).
    I then insert the shells and press "G" once more to close the chamber and wield the MOU.
    Muscle memory helps a lot with maintaining consistency with this fast motion but it's not perfect
    Demo:
    https://streamable.com/13tnnz
    Combined with Original:
    https://streamable.com/q6psfd
    Used in a fight:
    https://streamable.com/47p5bu

    As for the throwing knives, it's the same deal with combining actions set to one key ("F"), one for grabbing one from pockets, one for setting throw mode, and then just clicking where it needs to go. Do this quick enough and you'll machine gun meme knives
    utibj0e5wQ.png wsAsng5U8y.png
    https://streamable.com/pryv43

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDarkness View Post

    How you would punish the accused:
    Permaban if confirmed as cheating.
    I've showed his response to the development team, and per a code/developer/maintainer they have reviewed his response and said "Working as intended"
    However if someone higher (Carlac or Nanu) says no, thread will be updated.
    Last edited by ThesoldierLLJK; 04-26-2021 at 08:40 PM.
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    Report denied. This is not an exploit, the player just mastered the art of macros and muscle memory.
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