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    Bob_Vancleave - Commanding Officer Application

    Commanding Officer Whitelist Application
    Personal InformationByond ID?
    Cowboy_Lee

    Player Name You Use Most?
    Bob Vancleave

    Make a list of links to all of your ban appeals as well as whitelist and staff applications (both accepted and denied) submitted within the past year. For appeals, provide an additional ban reason and the appeal’s verdict next to the link.
    Have you received any bans in the last month?
    No

    What is your timezone in UTC?
    UTC-06

    What is your discord username and handle?
    Leeroy#4767

    Basic Questions & StoryWhat do you think is the job of a Commander?
    Much like the job of the XO, the Commanding Officer is to find out what happened, deal with it and go home but with added privileges and responsibilities. Delegate, dispense orders and direct marines. They represent the USCM and are responsible for the ship, everyone on it and all of the marines.

    They have a massive influence over the direction a round can take, from pardons, battlefield executions and the ability to change SOP. With these tools at their disposal, it's their job to ensure the operation is smooth with as little hiccups as possible. I believe that they also should make rounds fun for people, roleplaying when they can but I also believe that the primary focus of a CO should be on the operation. Marines shouldn’t be needlessly dying while you’re chatting it up with the CL.

    Why do you want to be a Commanding Officer?
    I find playing XO really fun; I have the aptitude needed to handle shipside matters and lead marines. People enjoy playing under me and asked when I was gonna apply for CO WL. I thought about it for a bit and decided to go for it; having CO WL will be a lot of fun and will allow me to create scenarios where I can create fun.

    Provide a short story of your Commanding Officer.
    ExperienceHow familiar are you with command positions?
    Very familiar, I can traverse CIC blindfolded and I know the ship like the back of my hand. I have about 55 hours as XO and 30 as SL.

    Approximately how many hours do you have as Executive Officer (XO) at the time of writing this application?
    55 hours.

    How familiar are you with Department Head positions?
    Fairly well, while I dont have any hours on them due to stat tracking being broken, I can do their job.

    How familiar are you with Marine Law and Standard Operating Procedure?
    I have a good grasp on it, read it countless times and have it bookmarked.

    ScenariosWhen do you believe a Battlefield Execution should be used?
    First they’d have to meet a certain criteria.
    Are they an actual threat to your command, ship or personel on the ship? An actual threat being:
    -An MT who was previously blown up parts of the ship and is saying that he will blow up CIC next
    -A specialist is preventing other marines from pushing and shows no caution when using their weapon when other marines could be harmed, despite being warned to stop.
    -An SO who gives contradicting orders to my own and whose actions are harming the operation.

    This is pretty cut and dry and I know that there are going to BEs that are going to be in a grey area. This is also assuming that it is an IMMEDIATE threat where MPs CANNOT handle the situation and that they’re also not in custody. BEs permanently take a person out of the round and are a bit of a last option if the problem can’t be solved via more peaceful means.

    Under what circumstances do you believe it is legal to pardon a prisoner?
    I would pardon a prisoner if their crime was not malicious in intent, IE A CT was deconstructing the chairs in briefing to send metal to the FOB, an engineer hacked the tools vendor to grab a better welder etc. I would pardon someone who is essential to the operation, though it isn’t a get out of jail card. I’d have to be certain that they are actually crucial for the mission and that they won’t fuck up again for me to pardon someone solely on the basis that they’re essential to the operation. I also wouldn’t pardon capital crimes because well uhh I can’t.

    ConfirmationsDo you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
    Yes

    Do you understand you cannot advertise or promote this application on any platform, including Discord?
    Yes

    Do you also understand that you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes
    Last edited by Bob_Vancleave; 06-02-2021 at 01:49 PM. Reason: i made a typo :(

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    Used to be LRP but he's a changed unga now 1+

    Actually listens as XO to the marines on ground
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    Good man, came to me for advice on parts of his application. The story is probably one of the best I've read and I applaud you for that.

    +1
    how did he get CO?

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    Their answers to the questions were all great and I’ve played a number of rounds with them, I’ve faith they’re competent and IMO fit for CO.

    Also the story was great.


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    Bob Vancleave is a competent commander and despite his jokey nature, is serious when it matters and is able to coordinate properly with his squads. I have have many positive experiences with him and he is very willing to communicate and talk issues out. His map knowledge is good and he can plan out strategies quickly. As MP and CMP, I have also seen him have good knowledge of SOP and ML such as knowing when to recall MTs and CEs and appeal procedure.

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    im a MP main, taught bob ML myself (god help him) he knows what the fuck hes doing MP wise, as for command hes a great leader fully capable of wrangling ungas.

    +1

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    This Application has been a long time coming to my knowledge. I saw your initial pleas for assistance in whitelist-app-help on Discord about a month or two ago (maybe it was longer, I honestly lost track). You were wanting to apply a lot sooner than this, but there were... and, worse, are issues. Not with you as a player, not with your skillset nor your know-how. But with, well, you as a person.

    To be positive first: This app is genuinely wonderfully done. The story is great and a lot of effort went into it, while your answers (barring the "I would pardon people for being important" part) to BE and Pardons are also solid. In any other case, this would be an easy +1 for me. But this is not the ordinary case, at least not the way I see it.


    You were approached in the past due to your blatant displays of Transphobia and, to a lesser degree, misogyny. These claims were backed up with an entire zip folder of screencaps showing you make such comments both inside and outside of the CM community, meaning this behaviour was not limited to CM either. We were concerned, especially because we actually all seemed to agree you were a really decent player and DO have the potential to make a great CO. You rp, you command well and can hold your own easily. Everyone actually agreed on this, even as we shared our concerns about aforementioned issues.

    We recommended that you wait a few months with your CO App, and use that time to change your ways and display proper conduct. That you stop hating on a group of people for being different, that you stop holding those kinds of toxic thoughts which have no place in the community we take part in. You accepted that suggestion, and delayed - begrudgingly. It seemed to me that while you took the advice, you didn't *really* understand why people were angry at what you had been saying. You actually went and complained in the Discord, saying something along the lines of "People are screenshotting my message history like it's Twitter" and "I'm being barred from CO because I said a woman shouldn't do a man's job". These comments, to me, imply that our intent with raising these issues to you BEFOREHAND (before you applied) completely went over your head. We wanted to give you a chance to make things right and change your mind about things. To you, it seemingly was just a metagroup of COs screwing over your chance at CO, or something.

    To this day, I can't personally say I believe you've genuinely changed. You didn't display open transphobia, yes, but continue to poke fun at Transgenders and the LGBT community, sometimes while being passive aggressive. The fact that you posted this Application on the first day of Pride Month - when the entire reason you delayed was being disrespectful to Transgenders and calling them 'gross' among other things - is also a very risqué choice that I personally doubt was on accident. Maybe it WAS on accident, but your past actions just don't make me think it is.

    This App is well made. Which is why it's so sad that I have to give you a stark -1 regardless. CO is a leadership position, on top of being a whitelist. It's a role people absolutely look up to, both as new players to the game and aspiring command players. As such, we absolutely should not tolerate this kind of behaviour in a role which is meant to be an example to so many people, both in-game and outside of it. Besides the fact that Transphobia has no place in CM's community in general, of course.

    Sorry, Bob. I can't support your efforts with good conscience. Not without having seen actual change in you.
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    If this app came up a certain period of time earlier I'd say bob vancleave would make a terrible CO because he can't stop being lrp as fuck and not getting the point of command. However the player has improved significantly in both regards and as far as I'm concerned he's always been an alright dude oocly so I see no reason not to +1 this.
    Literally who is this dude? Who does he play??

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    Nice app, but are you really ML Competent or just another Memer? Let's find out. I will be giving you some ML questions for the sake of Candice, the REAL ML questions.

    1. MPs are trying to arrest a Marine for Damage to Government Property. The marine manages to slip past the MPs and hid themselves in the Dropship. The MPs decided to flashbang, taze, flash and pepperspray the marine and the surrounding marines in an attempt to arrest him. Half of the Dropship marines ignores the MPs and complains while the other half proceeds to riot. Both side accuse each other as you arrive. In an attempt to mediate the situation how would you go about resolving this and is there any ML wrongdoing from the MPs part?

    2. A scruffle between an MP and Req department began as the MP is attempting to arrest the Req Department. You later find out that the MP was trying to find legal ways to arrest the Req due to the fact that they were denied weapons by the RO. Is there any fault in the RO or the MP and if so, what is the fault?

    3. A Marine and an Engineer were held up by an MP. The situation escalated where the marine proceeds to insult the MP and the MP responds by immediately flashing and arresting the marine. The Engineer responds by attempting to free the marine, and was flashed and eventually arrested as well. Any legal fault on the Marine, MP and Engineer?

    4. A survivor was found in the colony and was brought up to you, the survivor was female accompanied by the MP and they were debriefing you on the situation in the colony. During the conversation, the survivor wildly claims that you have acted indecently to her and she asked the MP to arrest you. The MP proceeds to arrest you, explain to me if this situation is Legal under Marine Law.

    5. During a delta alert, the Xenomorphs are on their way into crash landing the Ship. You have called all hands to Delta alert and noticed that there are 3 marines in the brig. You have asked for the marines to be released and the MPs refused to do so. Justify your claim on why is it possible legally to release said marines and if the MPs actions were legal.

    6. You were called to attend an appeal of 2 marines which you have accepted. You found out that Marine A is charged with DASO and the other with DASO, Damage to Government Property, and Assault. How do you intend to approach said pardon

    7. The CMP gathers the MPs in a plot to have you arrested. The MP department agrees and storms the CIC and demand that you surrender yourself to the law. Do you comply? Explain the reasoning behind your actions

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    I believe Bob will become one of the finest CO's on the roster, CM absolutely needs more players like him in command who understand how to make rounds enjoyable.

    +1 from me
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