MP complaint thread

[ZAB1019]

I've been arrested many times as SL for hacking the attachie vendor so I don't have to dedicate 6 minutes of my existence doing shit that I shouldn't need to do. Clicking 200 times at the start of the round is so fun omg!!! So I hack it so I don't want to commit suicide. Fuck. Multiple MP players on this thread have done arrested me for doing so. This is the mindset: if it breaks ML. They must be brigged. Regardless if it's fair or makes sense, or was an accident. This is the main hatred of MPs, and dumb ML/rules on general. It's like the new RP standards. People were fucking around, funny shit and fully consenting to antics, but MPs and staff shut them down. The sheer attitude of "well I never break marine law, just follow it." Means you don't change the landscape in any way what so ever, nor do you do anything besides generic boring military RP and reasonings.

[derpymcderpderp]

remember that video of the MP screaming at a Rav to stop killing him yeah that was funny :3

[GDIS Pathe]

I lost faith in MP's the 2nd time they flashed an entire DS trying to get after a marine from dismantling windows. I lost faith in their ability to be remotely competent when they threw a flashbang in a DS filled with Xenos thinking it would do something.

[Jacough]

This is the mindset: if it breaks ML. They must be brigged. Regardless if it's fair or makes sense, or was an accident. This is the main hatred of MPs, and dumb ML/rules on general. It's like the new RP standards..

There's a bit under the description for the CMP and MP page on the wiki that every retard trying to play the "strict no-nonsense" CMP/MP always somehow seems to overlook.

You lead the Military Police, ensure your officers maintain peace and stability aboard the ship.

Your primary job is to maintain peace and stability aboard the ship.

Trying to arrest marines, especially those in integral roles like SL, engineer, specialist, etc. that can straight up make or break an operation over completely trivial shit always leads to riots and often ends with with the MPs and CMPs stripped and crawling back to the brig in their undies sobbing like little girls. This is not maintaining peace and stability, this is creating a chaotic shit storm. MP players who often find themselves rage quitting or throwing tantrums after jumped by mobs of pissed off marines really need start thinking about who, when, and what they're making an arrest for.

Who is the guy they're arresting? Is it someone in an important position to the operation? Is it a dude who could play a key role in whether or not the operation falls apart? Is it somebody that anyone's going to give a shit about if they're gone for a while? If it's someone REALLY important like the only engineer then it's safe to say you've genuinely fucked yourself over. Not even command staff would probably back you on that shit since their primary concern is the operation which you might have just jeopardized by fucking up the marines' capabilities for establishing an FOB.

What are they arresting the dude for? Is it a minor prank or offense that nobody really gives two shits about or is it something that's actually bugging the rest of the crew enough that they won't give a shit if the dude is gone?

When is the dude doing this shit? I've seen a fair number of marines who like to goof off a bit before the operation actually starts who can still be counted on to get their asses on the ship and get groundside once shit gets going. Make a mental note of the dude if it's bugging you that much. If he fails to get on the dropship when it's time to get going and just continues to goof off and fuck around on the Almayer after everyone else has left then yeah, fucking go ahead and chuck him in a cell. He's established himself as a liability and it's doubtful that anyone ship side is going to give enough of a shit to jump to his aid.

This ain't standard SS13. It's actually safe to cut people some slack when it comes to minor offenses. Nobody's going to suddenly parapen you, cut your head clean off with an esword, and jettison your body out an airlock the minute you let your guard down and ignore a minor infraction. There's basically no reason to play as some strict 0 tolerance asshole unless you've got some really weird fetish for being bullied into submission by marines or unless you're an absolute dickhead.

[ZAB1019]

Once I got arrested as the only SL and was in briefing by a certain MP main. The reason? Breaching SOP. I had my flamer out and was adding attachies to it. I had my flamer out for about 10 seconds afterwards, flame turned off, safety on. I mistyped when alt tabbing and pressed q, dropping my flamer (no mag Harn)

I technically broke SOP for not having my weapon holstered. Even though I was putting attachies on for the majority of the time it was out. 4 MPs surround me and say I'm under arrest. No warning, nuffin. I ask the CMP if they're joking. They add DASO for that somehow.

If you add processing time, and walking up to brig, I was in there for 25 minutes. I get out and the groundside was lost because no one got fob coords the entire round, and I was literally the only SL, and aSLs werent doing a whole lot. I'm not saying that I could've won it or anything, but.

This is your brain on ML.

MPs are the antags, simple as.

[Fortelian]

Once I got arrested as the only SL and was in briefing by a certain MP main. The reason? Breaching SOP. I had my flamer out and was adding attachies to it. I had my flamer out for about 10 seconds afterwards, flame turned off, safety on. I mistyped when alt tabbing and pressed q, dropping my flamer (no mag Harn)

I technically broke SOP for not having my weapon holstered. Even though I was putting attachies on for the majority of the time it was out. 4 MPs surround me and say I'm under arrest. No warning, nuffin. I ask the CMP if they're joking. They add DASO for that somehow.

If you add processing time, and walking up to brig, I was in there for 25 minutes. I get out and the groundside was lost because no one got fob coords the entire round, and I was literally the only SL, and aSLs werent doing a whole lot. I'm not saying that I could've won it or anything, but.

This is your brain on ML.

MPs are the antags, simple as.

If MPs added DASO for that, that's a rule break, because you're not disrespecting them, you're asking a serious question. If MPs are actually doing something like this AHELP THEM and I will beat them with a stick for it.

[ZAB1019]

Was IC issue

[Papa_Pollard]

Most of the cunts defending Mps are Mp players.

Main issue with Mps is just the total lack of discretion and self righteousness they all seem to have, until recently cunts where being arrested for hacking squad vendors, tackling metabuddies in an empty hallway, talking on a radio as well as the times they dare to fall into an Mp DASO bait (looking at u solid standing in the DS infront of people being silent)

Now you bastards are an annoying nitpicoy lot so ill answer as many questions as a can before any of u cumts can ask them.

1) all the had to do was ask the CO roundstart to authorise a change in SOP.

A) fuck up u cretin its a game, cunts wanna get prepped quickly not spend the first 5 minutes asking some dick whos afk or tabbed out if they can hack a squad only vendor

2)They shouldnt be acting like children tackling each other.

A) are u daft or just trying to be funny, irl most people are immature dipshits especially those serving why should the game be any different.

Its also completely harmless and not really all that disruptive unless you re incapsble of ignoring shit.

3) they should onow better than to say things on the radio that can incriminate them.

A) If somecunts giving a dumb SO lip for being a total tard in the CIC let them.I
f somecunts flaming Mps while theyre being arrested dont fucking use it to press more charges. They are clearly tilted and acting out, stop being an ass. I know the technicalities of marine law get you hard/wet (being gender inclusive) but get a grip ya twat.

4)They should just keep theor mouths shut and know better, if the sight of anMp bothers them that much they need to grow up!!!!

A) Stop playing fumb ya fanny, these cunts know full well what CM players are like and know what buttons to push to cause a reaction. Mp players that pull this shit shouldnt be applauded or cheered on. Its cuntish behavior and in many ways harassment as they are purposefully going out of their way to antagonise/anger/upset others.

In all Mp players tend to be total cunts who care more about catching people on technicalities then actually protecting shit. Most of the time they justify this by saying they must follow marine law with no exception, this is total bullshit unless the mods a cunt. Most people dont actually give a shit if you njp someone for a crime that doesnt allow njps or just ignore the crime completely.

Trying to pass of shitty behavior, power tripping and rule autistic lawyering as a forced requirement of the role is completely scummy.

And for fuck sakes do not use the argument of RP. I cant be arsed arguing against this point but yer wrong awright.

And if someone is shouting and balling at you NJPing somecunt tell them to fuck up, if they ahelp and the mod bwoinks you then just tell the mod to fuckup. Believe it or not this actually works trust me ; )

Finally Mps tend to be really unrobust as such a lot of hate comes from the fact that Mps play Mp because they cant actually play marine and want to shit on the people that can.

[Jacough]

Most of the time they justify this by saying they must follow marine law with no exception

Any MP/CMP player who claims this shit is either a straight up liar or has never even looked at the Marine Law page

Military Police may, at their discretion, ignore Minor Crimes unless they are ordered to enforce one. However, they should never break Marine Law themselves

In other words: no, MPs don't HAVE to arrest marines for goofing off and committing mischief. They just choose to do so because they're either stupid and that part had too many big words for them to read or because they're power tripping cock suckers who are full of shit and desperate to justify being power hungry cock suckers.

[Casada_Radio]

Allow me to state problem no 2 with all of this:

Staff backs MPs most of the time, even though the MPs are clearly in the wrong or have messed up.

IC Issue with Ahelps, even though you are strictly forced to follow ML
IC Issue to escalate small fights into riots, even though MPs are supposed to ensure law and order, all under the guise of Following ML.

My message to staff is:

Try to take a new approach into assessing this whole situation. There are many instances where MPs can take different approach to situations without being a prick and progress the game. Advising and helping to remind COs on SOP change on vendors is one. Why on earth do MPs not do that as though they are waiting to jump on and arrest the CO? This is very clear cut grief and the fact that no one sees this is a major issue to begin with. And anyone defending this logic is, I am sorry to say, self-righteous and delusional, or more accurately, mad for power.

Waiting to jump on people to catch them is not in any way a friendly way to play the game.

And another thing, I am unsure if anyone pointed this out but most of the time staff backs MP because a. staff often get rule lawyered out by MP players and b. They themselves dont know how to handle said situations. And I say this because majority of MP players themselves cant handle crisis situations in the first place, that's why they are so hated.