Player Report
Your Byond ID? MrDadMan
Date of Incident June 18, 2021
Your Character Name? Amber Walsh
Accused Byond Key(if known): frankthemagicpotato
Accused Character Name Callie Jaegar
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results) 12:20 am CST
What rule(s) were broken: Rule 3: Community Expectations
Description of the incident: So, I load OB and then me and my friend meet up and made plans to do our own build, both as MTs. We decide to build our own gimmick in the briefing room and start by wrenching the chairs that literally NEVER get used besides briefing, and even at this juncture, the marines were deployed and they would never get used. So we get to collecting the metal from the chairs because literally there are never incidents where this is an issue. Jaegar (as CMP) comes in the middle of it and collects half our metal. We are a bit upset by this saying like "hey, that's ours!". Once we finish collecting the metal, with her having half, she orders us to replace all the chairs again, meaning to use all the metal we just got and rebuild the chairs again. Of course, we refuse the order because that's completely absurd, especially with her contributing to the dismantling of the chairs. Then, she decides to place us both under arrest, tasering us both and arresting us both. We resist, assault, do what we can to try and escape the scenario we feel is bullshit when we literally do NO HARM AT ALL. We both agree that we just aren't going to deal with spending our rounds being in brig and would just rather cryo (this agreement was only made after we BOTH CRYO'D, so no metacomms happened. We were both just that upset over the incident).
Realistically, there isn't anything wrong in ML with CMPs action. But Jaegar's constant impediment to round enjoyment. I sincerely feel that this is complete overboard use of MP roleplay, situation, and equipment. The intervention, interaction, and altercation was completely unnecessary. We knew that we were going to have to spend a large fraction of our rounds in brig if we were to be arrested by Jaegar because this happens very often and we already knew we'd get every charge for the situation. Which would be AT LEAST 15-20 minutes for us both.
Even just yesterday, I pulled a crate of crayons to Brig all the way from Req because I wanted to brighten up everyone's round with jokes and foolishness because I know how boring it is to have no RP interactions. Then I get ordered to deploy and help FOB by XO, but Jaegar persists with their situation in saying that I destroyed a wall by the uniform vendor. CMP said it was fine and I didn't even need to be given NJP, but Jaegar persisted. I even corrected Jaegar because they were completely wrong with their evidence. I was opening the uniform vendors so that the medical staff could get labcoats. And me hacking the door next to it was such a mindblowing crime to Jaegar. But they decided to not only arrest me, but give me extra charges anyway. Even when I helped them with the situation by explaining what happened. No JNP. Just straight 20 minutes out of my round because THEY COULD.
This is a huge issue for someone who's so active in the MP department, community wise. Regardless if it is fine on paper.
I used to like Jaegar once I first started out playing shipside engineering roles because they play with such a good attitude and seem so nice. But in gossip I've had with my friends and others within the past month, it's because blatantly clear that we don't think Jaegar is a dick because of how speak, it's because of how they act. It's the very reason why me and my friends don't play shipside engineering roles anymore: we get arrested just for existing at this point.
The engineering department is by far the most useless department in the entire server. Our sole purpose is to load OB and then that's basically it for the ENTIRE ROUND. That means it is up to US ALONE to make our own fun after that. And it takes 2-3 minutes to do our job average. The only other scenarios are occasional repairs for ship damages that we almost never get called for, helping set up the APC or CAS, which the VCs and POs mainly do on their own because that's literally big parts of fun for their rounds. So for our rounds to be shit on even more just for slight crimes that can be solved with NJP, it's absolutely NO FUN. AT ALL.
Arresting someone for crimes isn't RP. It's just making something not bored for one party and ruining the fun of the round for the other party. There is no RP involved. There are no lessons being taught. People are just thrown in Brig and it's not even expected that people learn from their mistakes. Otherwise, MPs would almost NEVER be needed. There are no lessons. Only fractions of said person's round being taken down.
Now for Jaegar, this shit is just frustrating because they are just one of the MPs me and my group have decided not to play shipside roles as because they arrest for any reason just because they can.
As someone who TRIES TO HELP PEOPLE, DOES THEIR JOB AS MT, AND WANTS TO JUST HAVE FUN WITH THEIR FRIENDS, it's VERY infuriating to just have our rounds ruined just because MPs like Jaegar are going, looking for arrestable situations, and it ruins the round for us.
The fact that it's seen as completely fine and our rounds have to suffer so that theirs can be less boring is completely ludicrous. Especially because of the fact that there's no RP needed for arresting someone, and the majority of the time of the arrest is just silence or little to no RP. Jaegar isn't making the community or rounds better as MP. They are ruining opportunities for fun and arresting over things that can just be avoided.
It's even stated in the rules for staff that even if rules are broken but things are still flowing good for the people's opinion and community, it can be overlooked. As Most shipside roles are left to themselves in order to have a fun time in the round.
If someone can just keep ruining opportunities for fun and people's round, what is even the point of playing shipside roles? Where is the line going to be drawn? How are we supposed to have fun on the server if we can't even do things for ourselves?
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
How you would punish the accused: Honestly just want Jaegar jobbanned from MP. Even if no punishment should be given, I request that my argument not be ignored regardless. This issue has gotten to the level to where me and friends don't even wanna touch shipside engineering roles because it's just a target for MP harassment.