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    Kacew, I will recommend that you keep your Drama out of this.
    The first time I cryo'd because I had to pick my kids up from school, and wanted to open up the slot,
    It's not like I was in an important position, I wasn't running an operation or groundside.
    I was on an overwatch console and my kids needed to be picked up.

    The second round I was hoping that I'd be able to do something aside from Overwatch, since you were running the operation.
    You spent most of your time telling me what I can't do, and only after briefing you told me what to do.
    I was around yes, making sure the ship was set up.
    The CTs were up to stuff, or else I would have told you otherwise. I was making sure the OB and the AA were set.
    And since you are so hung up on why I disappeared, you were running the operation, and there was a brand new nurse and no SEA.
    So I taught them the bare basics.
    I did not feel like I was needed, you had two staff officers at the beginning.
    I felt like you were trying to get rid of me, you did not call for me for a long time.

    I cryo'd after the operation was over because I wasn't feeling the chemistry and wanted to open up the XO slot.
    I didn't want to do overwatch, but I still finished the round groundside. I had little impact on the round because you weren't letting me impact the round.
    I was getting some university work done because I wasn't DOING much.

    Me and you just don't click as XO/CO.
    That's it. You let me impact the round as much as an SO does, and then insult me for not impacting it.
    We had a few bad rounds.
    You then decided to insult me on the discord because I politely asked you to give me separate duties next time we play together, and then come here to insult me again, using your status as a CO to get a word in on me.

    You are the only CO I actively do not play with because you refuse to work with me. You just bully me into being useless every round we play, then insult me after it doesn't go your way, and finally, you want me to stick around with a CO that fights me.

    If that's not enough, if insulting me in game and insulting me on the discord isn't enough.
    You make sure that I make as little impact as possible on the rounds that we play so that you can -1 me for not having an impact.
    Last edited by Kitsunemitsu; 09-21-2021 at 05:34 AM.

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    Well, since you've decided to bring OOC into this. Here's the gist of our discussion on Discord, so that the context would not be lost:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunemitsu
    Major criticism:
    Please just let your XO do something that's not just being an SO.
    If I wanted to play SO I'd pick SO.
    Don't just tell me "you can't give orders anymore, no deployment, I'm running the op, get on an OW console."

    I was excited to have you run the op while I make sure everything on the ship was ok. It would have been a nice change of pace from and a good chance for RP, but no.
    Just like every other time I played with you, I was just an SO with a gold star.
    Quote Originally Posted by sg2002
    Major criticism:
    Any XO who wants to lead the OP without caring about overwatch is a fucking useless buffoon. If you don't understand about the importance of overwatch or care about it, you are incompetent.
    Quote Originally Posted by sg2002
    I judged that you are so incompetent that I can't even put you on the overwatch, so you were sat in the idiot chair and I did the two squad overwatch myself. My judgemt proved correct.
    I stand behind my words. Note: that I would never contact anyone myself in such tone, but since the applicant decided to message me first and start telling me how I should play my CO rounds, I had to reply.
    Roman 'Fire' Kacew

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    Since when was giving criticism to ask you to allow me to do something useful grounds for an insult like that and you seeking me out to -1?

    I made a criticism about how you command, it was not me "telling you how to play" it was me telling you that I do not like the way you command.
    I will no longer be playing XO with you, not that you care, but I want you to know that I will be cryoing every time you roll CO with me as XO.
    You are the only CO that fights me tooth and nail to make sure that I impact the round as little as possible.
    It's entirely in your rights as captain, but if you make SURE I can do as little as possible, and then you insult me about it, salt -1, and cry about me cryoing when I'm not having fun in a video game, then I am going to express displeasure.
    I sign up as XO to impact the round. You gutted everything I could do to do my job and then whine when I don't do it to your expectations.
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    I have personally stood beside Commander Saito in both CIC and on the field of battle in multiple operations and roles, have handled multiple shipside events with them as an MP and CMP, and have overall seen a ~80% winrate from their XO gameplay. When left in charge of an operation or deployed to the ground they have lead the operations just as well as any CO could, and the replies already posted on this application prove that statement true. I've personally never had any issues with them or their reasoning before, even regarding the previous operations today that has stirred up a bit of commotion in this application. There's not much else to say.

    Great squad lead, great MP, great commander. +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunemitsu View Post
    Since when was giving criticism to ask you to allow me to do something useful grounds for an insult like that and you seeking me out to -1?
    Discord was completely irrelevant in the context of this application, until you've decided to bring it up yourself. And that was the first thing you did, only after I replied you edited your post to explain your IC performance. My vote was 100% IC based as you can see from the original post.

    But now I think that on top of your terrible IC mentality, you have a sense of entitlement to only get positive replies on your application, which is another red flag.

    Certain roles have a certain set of expectations to them. If I join as a medic, take two guns, throw away my defib and only heal myself through the round, me saying "I sign up as a medic to impact the round", won't persuade anyone. XOs are always expected to do overwatch when asked to.
    Roman 'Fire' Kacew

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    I understand that my performance that round was inadequate and that I will do better in the future.
    I play a lot of SO and being told to do those duties when I am not queued up for it felt like a waste of time and was very frustrating. From now on I will not waste my time, or your time or anyone else's time and do my duty as ordered.
    I expected -1s, mostly from COs that I do not mesh well with
    I did not sleep that night either, like I usually don't when playing this game.

    I apologize for fighting with you on my app, I have been doing nothing but schoolwork and CM the past few days and have been absolutely unable to sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunemitsu View Post
    I play a lot of SO and being told to do those duties when I am not queued up for it felt like a waste of time and was very frustrating.
    While it is understandable that you may feel that way, you have to have a feeling of responsibility towards your own troops. SOs may be terrible, sneakily deploy and someone still has to do the job.

    As a CO you have to gauge the organizational skill of your subordinates. I want to know how good my XO is at the overwatch. Lets say nobody followed the Charlie SL except for the SG, they pushed alone and got killed. SO watching that squad ignored that for X minutes before I notice. I want to know if my XO can be trusted to reorganize the squad and recover them. Or I really have to step in myself. Now let's say, the same situation happens and I got distracted by processing some appeal in the brig. I want to know, would the XO notice that situation before it's too late? Would the XO step in effectively?
    Roman 'Fire' Kacew

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    I had Kirie as my XO a lot since this application was up. I've also seen them as CMP and SL.
    Kirie is a excellent XO that can handle CIC alone when needed. Based on my experiences with them, they have organized the planetside squads well and can do overwatch on the CIC console to keep themselves updated on the situation on the ground.
    As CMP, Kirie has shown to have a good understanding of Marine Law and SOP, handling some MP situations when they come up.

    I've never seen any other players complain about them being incompetent or anything like that. As I have said, I only had good experiences with Kirie.
    +1 from me. Good luck!
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    Out of curiosity I have some simple questions for you to answer

    One: How confident are you with the squad leader role? (and how many hours?) Do you have trouble maintaining cohesion in your squad? What if someone disobeys your orders, what do you do?

    Two: Similarly, as XO or CO, you are disarm spammed by 2 people and your shoes & CO beret are stolen directly after briefing. They run onto the dropship. What do you do?

    Three: A set of PFCs in Bravo squad refuse to return to the FOB despite you ordering them to. What do you do?

    Four: Two maintenance technicians refuse to load the OB and tell you to 'go fuck yourself' over comms. There is no CE present and only 2 MPs. How do you respond to this situation? And what about if there were no MPs?

    Five: It's a mostly standard round that you late-join into. You already know there is no XO but there are three SOs on the manifest. The Corporate Liason takes an egg into their office and a nearby SO sees this. He confronts the CL and the Pfc who gave them the egg but the office is locked down and he asks for your help. There are two MPs but one is AFK and the other is extremely new. The CL says that he'll release the lockdown if you sign an NDA. What's your course of action?

    Six: You latejoin and enter the CO office to gather your equipment, a PFC and an MT are there, and you think one of them might have stolen jones. What do you do?

    Seven: After a long round with a failed mutiny, three mutineers are in permabrig. You latejoin to this but shortly after a hijack alert is stated. There is only a Warden and an MP. The MW recommends that you activate evac so they can leave. The XO is telling you to execute them so that the defense of the ship can be focused on. The MP is asking for orders.

    Eight: It's a nice round start and you have organized everything with an XO and 2 SOs. Everything seems to be fine. After first drop you realize one of your SOs has deployed and no orders were given to do such. The XO tells you he didn't authorize that. What are you going to do?
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    1) I Have 57 SL hours, It's on the tin.
    I used to play this role almost exclusively. I play Charlie SL, and I talk a lot with my men.
    I make sure that every single one is answered if they talk to me, and I find that this boosts Cohesion quite well. If I do have trouble, I have Keybinds to say things such as
    "RALLY TO ME!", "Pull back with me, Grab the Dead" and "Keep up the push". I find that this helps a lot.
    If my orders are disobeyed, usually if I am not in the heat of battle I remind them that I outrank them. Further insubordination will result in a scolding. I don't often get men disobeying.
    If I AM in the heat of battle I usually point to them and repeat my order.

    2) I don't like causing issues to stop the operation. I ask the MPs to mark them as arrest if they come up.
    I do always make sure to keep pepperspray on me as XO for this exact occasion as it has happened before and it sucks every time.

    3) If they are PFCs I will relent and tell them the location of the nearest squad Leader and get them on the front lines. If they are rude, I will mark them for insubordination.
    FOB usually doesn't need that much defenses until a siege, so I let PFCs, Specs and SGs go to the front if they wish.
    A Bravo at the front is better than a Bravo in the Nest.
    If it's a private I name them and reissue orders; it's up to them to read comms and listen.
    They are new players and they don't always read comms.

    4) I put an SO or a Lt. Commander in charge of the operation while I rush to load the OB. I call the MPs to arrest them for insubordination. If I have no MPs I remind them of their place and move on.
    It's not worth going out of my way, the operation comes fist. If I have an XO, I tell them to rush to load it while I take over their position

    5) With the MPs, I ask them to come to the CL's office.
    I then walk them through the process of arresting the CL, and take them back to the brig with us.
    Then, I walk them through the security steps to arrest him for sedition (a xeno egg on ship is a major threat).

    If there are researchers, and the MP isn't competent enough to make an arrest, I request the CL to move the egg to research (if it hasn't been planted).

    If none of the following apply, have a separate condition.
    I read the NDA for anything out of the ordinary and then I sign.
    Once the lock is released, I enter and destroy the egg myself.
    The egg is gone, and the NDA is signed.

    6) First thing I do is check on Jones. Then I ask on comms if anyone knows what happened to Jones. Then I ask them if they have Jones, and if they say no, I will ask to search them.
    If they refuse a search, I call for MPs to detain and search.
    If they do not have jones, I escort them out, and order them to stay out. If they are found in there again, I have them arrested for insubordination and trespassing.
    If they do have Jones, I take jones back, tell them to go deploy.
    There's no need to be so harsh on someone that just wants to check out the CO's office, and maybe spend some time with my cat.

    If there aren't many Cargo Techs, I might issue an NJP for them to fill some ammo boxes, and be useful to the operation as a punishment.
    This goes doubly if they act hostile when I confront them.


    7) If we are on red alert, I instantly call evac, and have them evacced.
    If if isn't red alert, I ask for a gentleman's agreement not to shoot the XO, I let them out to join the fight. Another body is rather important after Hijack.
    If they say they are going to shoot the XO anyways, I waste the extra moment to call red alert and call evac.
    Players usually want to play more, so if you let them out they will just focus on shooting Xenomorphs instead of the mutiny target.

    8) If they didn't authorize it, I get in contact with him.

    If he is polite, I might also request the CTs to send him down a JTAC Kit, Armor and a Mark 1.
    He's going to need it.
    I have him marked for Failure to Follow Procedure and NJP'd on his return.

    I get the XO to take over and I get on Charlie/Delta Overwatch.
    If I deploy afterwards, usually if it's running smoothly, and another SO wakes up, I will confront him.
    I will NJP him on the field for something like 10 Pushups and then give him a pat on the back.
    This goes Double if he's been running JTAC and being useful.



    My style of command is very Utilitarian.
    I don't like causing too much disruption in a round, and I don't like having mild shenanigans met with brutal force.
    If you are kind, you deserve kindness in return.
    If you are rude, you deserve the full punishments laid out in marine law.
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    Kirie dear, are you coming to bed?

    Maybe. Who knows. I might play a song for old time's sake. Do you mind, Nicole?

    Not at all. I would love it.


    And so, she once again picked up the baby blue ukulele that she bought, all those years ago.
    She begun to form the words on her lips as she caressed the frets with the same grace she always did.
    They fell in love all over again.



    ...and her music was electric.

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