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    Staff Report - Schalkguy

    Staff Report
    Your BYOND Key
    WH0_T00Kthejam
    Date of Incident
    November 1, 2021
    Your Character Name?
    Harley Piett
    Their BYOND Key
    Schalkguy
    Approximate time and date of the incident
    17:20ish
    Which Staff Protocols (//showthrea...-and-Protocols) were broken
    Enforcement of rules and Preservation of RP.
    Description of the incident
    I rolled spec and chose the grenadier kit and had opted to not take the M92 (the grenade launcher that comes with the kit) and had instead opted to take a MK1 pulse rifle which has the same grenade capacity and can follow up on grenade stuns.

    I told my squad what I was doing and it was met with mixed messages.

    Note: I took the rest of my kit the armour, gloves and grenade belts/satchels
    Evidence
    I have none, it'd didn't allow me to save a chat log unfortunately.
    How you would punish the accused
    No punishment but I would like the note removed.

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    I was part of the squad that had Piett as GL.

    Initially Piett received negative feedback from squad, but he clarified that he took Mk1, not Mk2. If I remember correctly, on the dropship Piett even asked for help groundside to check Mk1 UGL for its IFF capabilities (shooting through marines), so that should be indicative of Piett not having malicious intents. Apart from that, I can confirm that he had Spec loadout.

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    I'm also part of this round and given that I may or may not be a little more qualified to talk about the grenade launcher (given that I have 30 hours in spec and is a mentor)
    I don't think piett did anything wrong here as it's not uncommon for specialists to not take their primary weapon if they can do better as their role with a different weapon or to use their primary weapon less than their secondary weapon

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    Remember rule two here

    2. Do NOT post in an complaint if you are not contributing evidence that proves or disproves an allegation. We do not want complaints to be "flame wars"

    Posts that are not evidence will be removed and the individuals striked

    Logs are gonna be posted by me, soon
    Phillip Clap and Esther

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    We had a discussion about it in msay, and I considered it in line with the ruling that specs have to take their kits now, especially as when I asked why you abandoned the GL you said your answer was experimenting, rather than following up on a grenade stun. In retrospect I feel that forwarding it to rule clarifcation for a more concrete ruling from managment may have been a better course of action.

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    Okay, so this report sat longer than I'd like due to discussions and also me forgetting. The official ruling going forward is this: Specialists must be performing their role, but the equipment they use to perform that role doesn't matter. With that said, it really only applies to the grenade specalist as the sniper can't snipe without their sniper (no, the L42 does not count), the SADAR can't fire rockets without their SADAR, and so forth.

    So, in this specific case, your actions were acceptable provided you were still primarily laying down grenade fire.

    With that said, I find no wrongdoing with Schalkguy, as the ruling was unclear. The note will be removed though.

    Resolved - Note removed, no action will be taken against Schalkguy.
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