unknown - 6. No Metacommunication

**DEADmetal** · 12-05-2021, 09:00 PM

Player Report

Your Byond ID?

unknown

Date of Incident

December 3, 2021

Your Character Name?

DMT

Accused Byond Key(if known):

unknown

Accused Character Name

Paco Morales, Harry Barnes

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)

14:40 PM (round start)

What rule(s) were broken:

6. No Metacommunication

Description of the incident:

I was north of bar, prepping the are area soon after marines had landed. Marines were not aware of my location, nor they saw me prior, iirc.

Just when I was opening these boxes, two rushed straight from the bottom of the screen to this room, as if they knew exactly where I was. They were lined up with the doors tiles - each going for different door.

I cloaked immediately, and positioned for a pounce out of the room. The marine just before me stepped aside and stopped very briefly, while the other one didn't even stop iirc. They were very organized. Right after, they went straight back to the bar, without wandering.

Now, I wouldn't be reporting this if a ghost wasn't observing me which obviously, increases the suspicion level in case quite a bit, and especially if the same person who was observing me said 'get fucked', as can be seen in the screenshot. Can the latter be verified?

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

https://i.ibb.co/RByMgN5/01.png

What resolution are you seeking?

Will this be the first ever non direct evidence metacomms report that isn't denied? :thonk:

**Grimreaperx15** · 12-06-2021, 10:00 PM

Ckeys:

Brother_jeff/(Imhotep Richblood)
Frycock/(Paco Morales)
Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes)

**Warfan1815** · 12-06-2021, 10:01 PM

Will prepare logs.

**Warfan1815** · 12-06-2021, 11:57 PM

Logs of note pre-fight

Spoiler:

[17:45:53]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) grabbed XXX in the Alpha Bravo Equipment Preparation (192,69,4).

(Meaning Paco Morales would have either been in Alpha or Bravo)

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[18:00:50]ANNOUNCEMENT: XXX has announced the following:

ALPHA BRAVO DS1

CHARLIE DELTA DS2

APC ON DS1

ALPHA MOVE INTO BAR THROUGH MEDICAL

CHARLIE DELTA MOVE INTO BAR THROUGH A SOUTH FLANK

ALL ENGINEERS ON DS1! DROP AT 12:22

(meaning the main push would have been close to dormitories - where the death of DMT took place)

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[18:08:34]GAME: Brother_jeff/(Imhotep Richblood) has ghosted.
[18:08:45]SAY: Ghost/Brother_jeff : spend 20 minutes preparing only to get capped first contact
[18:08:46]SAY: Ghost/Brother_jeff : i love warriors

(the time of this to DMT's death is eerily very close for this to be a UAV)

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[18:08:57]SAY:XXX [General]: Lurker just p[inged] checked us from the east (CKEY: XXX) (JOB: Squad RT Operator)

(although this time is too close to DMT's death for some to argue either killer could've seen this, it is worth noting he would have been picked up on MDs by the main push)

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[18:08:21]SAY: Harry Barnes [General]: Pings in bar (CKEY: Centaur3430) (JOB: Squad Marine)

(this is evident of Harry Barnes also having an MD, and being in bar, one minute before DMT was killed. Meaning it is feasible [Just as it was with the RTO] that he picked up DMT also on MD)

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[18:06:03]SAY: Paco Morales [General]: Wheres that doc who needed escort (CKEY: Frycock) (JOB: Squad Marine)

(although not exactly evident of Paco not being in cahoots with Harry Barnes, it does show he did not appear to have his main intention in hunting lurkers)

Main combat logs from the DMT fight

Spoiler:

[18:09:01]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,157,3).
[18:09:01]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,157,3).

[18:09:01]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:02]EMOTE: Prime Lurker (DMT-152)/DEADmetal03 : The Prime Lurker (DMT-152) hisses.

[18:09:02]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:02]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:02]EMOTE: Prime Lurker (DMT-152)/DEADmetal03 : The Prime Lurker (DMT-152) roars!

[18:09:02]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a buckshot shell in the Dormitories (113,159,3).

[18:09:03]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,158,3).
[18:09:03]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,158,3).
[18:09:03]EMOTE: Prime Lurker (DMT-152)/DEADmetal03 : The Prime Lurker (DMT-152) roars!

[18:09:03]ATTACK: DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) slashed Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes)

[18:09:03]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,158,3).
[18:09:04]ATTACK: Centaur3430/(Harry Barnes) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a high-velocity submachinegun bullet in the Dormitories (111,158,3).

[18:09:06]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:06]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:06]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with an additional buckshot in the Dormitories (113,159,3).
[18:09:06]ATTACK: Frycock/(Paco Morales) shot DEADmetal03/(Prime Lurker (DMT-152)) with a buckshot shell in the Dormitories (113,159,3).

[18:09:08]SAY: Harry Barnes [1]: Nice (CKEY: Centaur3430) (JOB: Squad Marine)

[18:09:10]ATTACK: Prime Lurker (DMT-152) has died to M37A2 pump shotgun at the Dormitories

(TO NOTE: this happened 40 seconds after he lamented in dchat about being captured)
[18:09:12]SAY: Ghost/Brother_jeff : get fucked

[18:09:13]SAY: Paco Morales [1]: Lets get backd (CKEY: Frycock) (JOB: Squad Marine)

DMT's LOOC conversation upon respawn about the topic with another xenos

Spoiler:

[18:21:02]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : anyway
[18:21:09]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : oh yeah
[18:21:11]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : https://i.ibb.co/gJnyS0T/01.png
[18:21:17]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : so
[18:21:23]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : what you see here is after I died

[18:21:30]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner ()/XXX : lemme see

[18:21:35]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : I was just opening crates n stuff there
[18:21:45]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : suddenly

[18:21:46]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : yeah i see that

[18:22:00]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : two marines rushed steraight in through the doors
[18:22:10]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : one through one door, and another one through another
[18:22:21]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : they were right on target and very organized
[18:22:33]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : some ghost was watching me
[18:22:37]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : what do you think?

[18:22:46]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : hmmmm
[18:22:58]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : it had to be a mod or something
[18:23:03]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : plotting against you

[18:23:11]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : I suspect metacomms
[18:23:14]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : because

[18:23:19]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : yeah me too

[18:23:22]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : why would they go straight to that room

[18:23:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : yeah, like how

[18:23:30]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : through different doors,super organized
[18:23:35]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : and then straight back

[18:23:40]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : that's so weird

[18:23:44]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : yeah

[18:23:46]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : you got plotted against man
[18:23:58]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : i think meta comms happen sometimes in this game

[18:24:07]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : gonna throw it up on the discord. Lets see what shittalk it will cause lol

[18:24:14]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : lmaooo

[18:24:19]OOC: (LOCAL) Prime Runner (DMT-310)/DEADmetal03 : I think they happen quite often

[18:24:28]OOC: (LOCAL) Elder Runner (XXX)/XXX : do it, imma join the discord and see what's up

[I have managed to locate his post on the discord, the link is: https://discord.com/channels/1503155...1024841453649]]

**DEADmetal** · 12-07-2021, 01:56 AM

Thank you for the logs.

So, the players in question didn't co-ordinate their actions in chat prior to when I saw them coming? Also, I can't tell if this players ghost (the one in dchat) or other was actually on me as this was taking place, but I saw one flying from that room and towards bar just after they went back there. Are actions in ghost tab of the UI being logged?

**DEADmetal** · 12-07-2021, 03:26 AM

And just to highlight the following - soon after marine landing, even if LZ1, any area north of this room is always being devoid of action. Also, dormitories and adjacent areas to east were otherwise pretty much empty at that time. Therefore, for a random ghost to fly through there in this particular case, at the right moment, would be an absurd coincidence.

**Warfan1815** · 12-07-2021, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by DEADmetal

And just to highlight the following - soon after marine landing, even if LZ1, any area north of this room is always being devoid of action. Also, dormitories and adjacent areas to east were otherwise pretty much empty at that time. Therefore, for a random ghost to fly through there in this particular case, at the right moment, would be an absurd coincidence.

It is likely they were checking for you, or at the very least responding to your death message. Though I couldn't know, and in this case it is impossible to prove.

**Warfan1815** · 12-07-2021, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by DEADmetal

Thank you for the logs.

So, the players in question didn't co-ordinate their actions in chat prior to when I saw them coming? Also, I can't tell if this players ghost (the one in dchat) or other was actually on me as this was taking place, but I saw one flying from that room and towards bar just after they went back there. Are actions in ghost tab of the UI being logged?

They are logged, however I did not pick up a "jump to DMT" during my review

**DEADmetal** · 12-07-2021, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Warfan1815

They are logged, however I did not pick up a "jump to DMT" during my review

No sufficient proof then, I guess. Well, thank you for going through it.

**Sakuyoi** · 12-08-2021, 03:33 PM

Just my two cents to be honest.
Dont report people metacomming. You TELL admins/mods of potential metacomming via ahelp or DMs.

If you report them into the forums THEY will stop metacomming and it wont be proven because they will just stop for some time.

Its just my advice. Please dont delete this and i hope the staff team understands what i mean. People should be telling this into ahelps or DMs instead of forum reporting.

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