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    Ugnip55 - Commanding Officer Application

    Commanding Officer Whitelist Application
    Personal Information

    Byond ID?
    Ugnip55

    Player Name You Use Most?
    Joe Dafoe

    Make a list of links to all of your ban appeals as well as whitelist and staff applications (both accepted and denied) submitted within the past year. For appeals, provide an additional ban reason and the appeal’s verdict next to the link.
    N/A.

    Have you received any bans in the last month?
    No

    What is your timezone in UTC?
    GMT+1

    What is your discord username and handle?
    Ugnip55#6575

    Basic Questions & Story

    What do you think is the job of a Commander?
    The job description of the Commander is relatively static. They designate the orders. They pay attention to the radio. They relay information and advise on the best course of action in whatever situation may present themselves. They motivate the marines and make sure their CIC is cohesive and responding actively to the marines calls for OBs and whatever other needs or inquries they may have.

    Shipside, the Commander makes sure all the departments are running smoothly, and that the MPs are competent and doing their job. Of course if the MPs aren't, it isn't really his job to actively interfere, but if the MPs don't know ML and SoP, I feel it is also his duty to let the CMP know of that. If there is no CMP or CMP is unwilling to punish their MPs, it should be their duty to inform High Command. I also believe they have a responsibility to enable fun and also enable relative marine independency.

    If an SL says they're going to take their squad and do X, if the situation allows it, why not allow them to do X? That's not to say they're encouraged to disobey orders, but I would personally never punish a marine for acting on intuition instead of orders and it pays off, for example if the marines decide to push the gaps on LV despite orders not to do so, and they somehow manage to push through and get inside, I'll let it slide.

    Why do you want to be a Commanding Officer?
    I want to be CO because I want to be responsible for my own operations and to direct a fun round for the marines. I'd like to do this by occasionally deploying and leading from the frontline, to which CO is much better suited than XO with its equipment and power.

    Provide a short story of your Commanding Officer.
    A story of my CO's actions during a UPP assault (858 words).


    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    Experience

    How familiar are you with command positions?
    I am very familiar. I know how to set up an operation from start to finish and man the CIC on my own. I also play a decent bit of SL and know how the operation is lead from groundside.

    I've served under numerous COs, and most of them have taught me a thing or two (strategy or conduct wise). To name a few, Haar, Racic, Windhealer and a couple of others as well.

    Approximately how many hours do you have as Executive Officer (XO) at the time of writing this application?
    ~40 hours in current playtime, more before it was tracked as well.

    How familiar are you with Department Head positions?


    CE - I personally have not played as CE before, but I do know that they manage the MTs onboard and can authorize ship modifications independently. I also know they are one of the two heads who can deploy to the AO to assist in construction matters groundside.

    RO - I am familiar with requisitions and the position of RO. I know how to independently man requisitions and how to prepare the supply pod drops. I do not however claim to be an excellent requisitions player, there's surely niche things I don't know, but I absolutely understand how to do requisitions adequately. In short, the RO is responsible for managing requisitions and making sure drops and orders are happening smoothly

    CMP - The El Jefé of the MPs. I've played CMP a couple of times in the past. They need to have excellent knowledge of SoP and Marine Law, and are responsible for punishing their MPs for ML/SoP breaks as well. In short, they manage the MPs and make sure ML is enforced properly shipside. The CMP is also one of the two heads who are allowed to deploy to the AO.

    CMO - I personally have never played CMO. I am however very familiar with how the CMO functions and what their role is. They manage medbay, authorize deployments for their doctors, manage research and their experiments and often mentor and guide new doctors/nurses.

    How familiar are you with Marine Law and Standard Operating Procedure?
    I argue with MPs occasionally on arrests they make, and therefore I would say I kinda have to know marine law pretty well. I know arrest procedure by heart. I also comprehend the SoP.

    Scenarios

    When do you believe a Battlefield Execution should be used?
    I believe BEs should be reserved for situations where immediate drastic action is required, for example mutinies or the inciting of mutinies, immense disruption to groundside and shipside operations, threats of murder to either the Captain or someone close to the Captain, etc. It's my opinion however that generally BEs won't be required, as the MPs are often there to assist you regardless.

    Under what circumstances do you believe it is legal to pardon a prisoner?
    Pardons can be used for minor and major crimes, but never capital crimes. I think the CO should respect the arrest unless there's a particularly good reason for it. My personal examples:

    - A squad engineer is arrested for disorderly conduct. There are no MTs available for deployment and there are very few engineers. I pardon them for their crime as they are needed sorely groundside.

    - SADAR is arrested for a major crime. He will likely be pardoned, because SADAR is arguably one of the most quinessential specialists and is needed groundside.

    As for people like squad leaders, a pardon is not necessary as an aSL can be set. It's after all reserved for exceptional circumstances, and the two situations above are very reasonable in my eyes.

    Confirmations

    Have you read the Code of Conduct?
    Yes

    Have you read the application process page?
    Yes

    Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
    Yes

    Do you understand you cannot advertise or promote this application on any platform, including Discord?
    Yes

    Do you also understand that you may not edit this application 1 hour after it has been posted?
    Yes
    Last edited by Ugnip55; 12-08-2021 at 10:59 AM. Reason: Forgot to include a sentence on the RO bit.

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    Had several rounds with Ugnip and he's proved himself a fantastic commander, both from CIC and the field. He communicates constantly, listens to comms, banters with the troops, announces tacmaps and also goes outta his way to come up with interesting and different routes to deploy instead of the safe meta hydro deathball. Got all the experience he needs and will bring a lot to the game in terms of being a fun CO to play with


    Big +1 from me

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    Oh yeah, ugnip is pretty cool. He's been a member of the community for a while and he has been playing a lot of XO from what I've seen, on high or low pop. I have no outstanding negative memories of you (other than when you stole my joke) but I do know you're pretty cool.

    Easy +2 for the man himself
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    +1 cool guy who frequently announces relevant info and listens to comms

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    One thing that sticks out to me is the SADAR part in the pardon explanation.

    SADAR spec should never just be pardoned because they are the SADAR. Yes, you should take into account their position when pardoning, but obviously, take in the fact what is happening ground side. If all specs are alive and they are jailed, there should be no reason to pardon the SADAR. They broke the law, they pay for it. If the majority of the Specs were dead and/or the FoB is being sieged, yeah. A pardon for the SADAR is suitable.

    Pardoning should not be used to just give a free get out of jail card.

    You explained it fine for the Engineer scenario, however that SADAR scenario worries me. Hopefully, it was just a minor mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordosian View Post
    One thing that sticks out to me is the SADAR part in the pardon explanation.

    SADAR spec should never just be pardoned because they are the SADAR. Yes, you should take into account their position when pardoning, but obviously, take in the fact what is happening ground side. If all specs are alive and they are jailed, there should be no reason to pardon the SADAR. They broke the law, they pay for it. If the majority of the Specs were dead and/or the FoB is being sieged, yeah. A pardon for the SADAR is suitable.

    Pardoning should not be used to just give a free get out of jail card.

    You explained it fine for the Engineer scenario, however that SADAR scenario worries me. Hopefully, it was just a minor mistake.
    Hey, thanks for the comment. I'll elaborate a bit. I did not say they absolutely would be just because they're SADAR, but I said it's likely. Most of the time whenever I'm XO, SADAR is the difference between the queen dying and a marine major to follow and an FOB siege and evac. If there is clearly no urgent need for him groundside I would not pardon him as there is no reason to, however if I believe they can make a huge difference which they often do, I would consider pardoning him, depending on whether or not I think they could make that difference in those ~30 minutes they'd be jailed otherwise.
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    competent +1

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    Saw Joe Dafoe sit in as XO a lot over the recent month or two, so the playtime in Command is a non-issue for sure. You're competent at leadership, too.

    You say you butt heads with MPs over arrests and such and that you used to play CMP. Would you mind posting your playtimes? And maybe just an explanation on when the last time was that you actually, actively, played any MP role. I'm not saying you have to have clocked in as MP but others say they've never seen you do ML related stuff, and I'm part of that crowd. I'd like to hear from you, personally, before I ask you any wacky questions or whatever.

    Also, I agree with the prior comment that pardons for a spec are very, very meh in my book. Pardons for the sake of "they are X role" always leave a sore taste in my mouth, and it's sort of a red flag to me on CO apps. The value of SADAR as a spec kit can be debated - some thing they're invaluable and others think they're totally useless - but either way I wouldn't even go as far as "they MOST LIKELY would get a pardon" just because they're a spec and picked a wacky kit. You should be issuing pardons based on their conduct, story and current groundside situation. Your Engineer example above it is a good example - no engies means you'd probably have to pardon the engi in jail. Pardoning Spec because "idk they'll probably be useful" is a very lofty reason to me and insufficient for a pardon, in my personal view.

    As I said though, I will be holding back my vote for now and wait for your MP-related stuff and playtimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilPenpusher View Post
    Saw Joe Dafoe sit in as XO a lot over the recent month or two, so the playtime in Command is a non-issue for sure. You're competent at leadership, too.

    You say you butt heads with MPs over arrests and such and that you used to play CMP. Would you mind posting your playtimes? And maybe just an explanation on when the last time was that you actually, actively, played any MP role. I'm not saying you have to have clocked in as MP but others say they've never seen you do ML related stuff, and I'm part of that crowd. I'd like to hear from you, personally, before I ask you any wacky questions or whatever.

    Also, I agree with the prior comment that pardons for a spec are very, very meh in my book. Pardons for the sake of "they are X role" always leave a sore taste in my mouth, and it's sort of a red flag to me on CO apps. The value of SADAR as a spec kit can be debated - some thing they're invaluable and others think they're totally useless - but either way I wouldn't even go as far as "they MOST LIKELY would get a pardon" just because they're a spec and picked a wacky kit. You should be issuing pardons based on their conduct, story and current groundside situation. Your Engineer example above it is a good example - no engies means you'd probably have to pardon the engi in jail. Pardoning Spec because "idk they'll probably be useful" is a very lofty reason to me and insufficient for a pardon, in my personal view.

    As I said though, I will be holding back my vote for now and wait for your MP-related stuff and playtimes.
    I've talked it over with some whitelisted COs and I agree that my specialist reasoning is a bit off. I'll keep that bit in mind. My MP hours are not very impressive, but I guarantee you I know marine law better than a lot of MPs. I have ~10 hours as MP and 2 hours as CMP in recent timelocks, a bit more before this as well. I also never play as my main character whenever I am playing MP, so it's impossible that anyone would actually have seen me play MP as Joe Dafoe. My MP alt is Charles Richards. One of my most recent rounds of note, I faxed HC and lead the arrest on Windhealers whole "radiation" leakage squad. Every other MP present did not see an issue in it, yet I knew marine law to the extent that I could see it was all bogus and that an arrest had to be made. I personally do not play MP that often, but I know how MP is meant to be played and I know marine law. If you have questions, ask them and I'd be willing to give it a shot.

    I also, as staff, deal with MP ahelps constantly and have sent in Provost inspectors on numerous occasions to investigate faulty procedure and SoP breaches from MPs, so I suppose that's relevant.
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    You responded well to the Specialist Pardon thing and I'm glad you're willing to compromise on it, by the looks.

    You make a very self-confident appearance to me on MP issues, which a CO most definitely does have to deal with (half our MPs are incompetent as the frequent Provost visits indicate). Since you're Staff - where ML is a strict requirement - and also apparently were a MP exercising positive ML knowledge during a round I observed, I'm willing to pass up on any follow-up questions in that regard.

    Gladly giving you my +1 in this endeavour! Good luck, Captain-to-be!
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