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    Lunarflu(?) - Rule 4, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 6

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    Your Byond ID?
    AlbertBlackwell

    Date of Incident
    January 15, 2022

    Your Character Name?
    Albert Blackwell

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    Lunarflu(?)

    Accused Character Name
    Amir al shabbah or something along those lines

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    17:25 GMT

    What rule(s) were broken:
    Rule 4, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 6

    Description of the incident:
    Amir foamed marines several times during a round resulting in marines becoming trapped, corpses becoming unrecoverable and allowing xenos to regain lost ground. These foam bombs were excessive in nature - 15x15 nades - and often at somewhat random times resulting in marines becoming stuck in foam causing them to be attacked by xenomorphs, along with marines being unable to push due to the need to clear out the foam and recoverable bodies going perma.

    I've seen Amir do this multiple times throughout several rounds and show no clear sign of stopping and Lunarflu going as far enough as to find these rulebreaks funny and almost a memey thing to do. It isn't funny nor do the rest of the marine force playing find it funny.

    Additionally Lunarflu has been going 'Doctor' in order to do this somewhat neglecting their role to heal people by instead focusing on foaming xenos/marine frontlines, this is a waste of a role. Go Ordnance Tech.

    Furthermore, this incident happened at hijack and it seemed that Lunarflu had already prepared their foam mix in preparation for hijack before hijack which breaks the metagaming rule.

    While I'm unsure if what I'm told is true, the medbay during the incident was shown to be neglected with nobody running chemistry, medbay not being setup and Lunarflu dropping first drop to foam xenos without any field surgery gear. Count this as a maybe until witnesses show up/or logs show.

    For someone who cracks down on certain kinds of behavior, this definitely isn't a good thing to do and incredibly hypocritical.

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    What resolution are you seeking?
    Job ban from Doctor, ban for griefing.

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    I can attest to this incident as medic for this round in particular.

    Medbay was particularly crippled as the only person running chems was an inexperienced Nurse who was new to chemline, Amir was on comms shortly into the round stating that they would be deploying (?). The issue I have with this is that it has become the norm for docs to speedrun first drop for either fob doctoring of medapc duties, this in itself isn't really a massive issue but the problem begins when medbay is understaffed and docs are abandoning their department to go fobdoc first drop (pretty sure there is some form of approval procedure for actions like this, especially for first drop). Medics rely on roundstart chem prep to last them throughout the OP, especially chems like IS and IA, without these chems at first drop you are having a major knockon effect. Not only this but medics are typically forced to miss first drop as noone shipside (with understaffed medbays) will have the foresight to supply chems to the front should medics not receive them predrop.

    In this round, Amir was dragged out of the APC and questioned why an inexperienced nurse was left to chemline, Amir's answer was something along the lines of "I don't know chems". This is alarming to me as chem knowledge is essential for the Doctor role, even for medics to an extent. Fortunately medics walked the nurse through how to do IA and IS, but the time required to carry this task out meant first drop was already missed, unfortunately the Synth (Phelan) was unable to assist as they couldn't find a beaker. Missing first drop as a medic is a massive blow to marines, as the typically fast nature of recent rounds means that fighting gets intense very quickly so bodies start dropping, no medics means no revives.

    Further into the round I noticed another issue, marines were being sent up shipside even though we had a fob doc (Amir), this developed further as I saw them say something along the lines of "I don't know that procedure", when speaking of embryo removal of hugged marines, in passing I noticed someone talking another person through how to perform a surgery so I can only assume this was a medic or the synth training Amir.

    We haven't even got to the metal foam nonsense yet, so let's get started.

    There is nothing wrong with metal foam, it can be very effective when used correctly and with coordination, the problem I have in this case is there was no coordination, it was a doc for crying out loud. Were they on squad comms talking to marines? Did they even have Binos to observe and identify effective opportunities? Alpha comms was absent of any of this so i'm not aware of this was the case. I heard in passing that the DS was metal foamed, this is never a good thing, the tile coverage of metal foam is so big that using it anywhere near the DS doors is a recipe for perma marines unless as an absolute last reosrt. PO locking doors and shotgun+SG usage should be adequate. The absolute worst instance within this round though was the use of metal foam on multiple occasions in the MIDDLE OF MARINES at lifeboats. This is absolutely unacceptable, the tile coverage was so large that the entirety of the lobby was covered meanwhile marines are dying and going perma at the front, firing lines were blocked, xenos had free reign to claw tiles and push to gain ground.

    To use the Doctor role to do all of this is ridiculous, it is a waste of the slot, an abuse of the role and should not be happening. It is without a doubt griefing, intentional or not. Lunar's statements on discord after the matter shows no remorse or awareness of the negative effects their actions had on the round, even went as far as to say that they wouldn't waste time waiting for the perfect opportunity to use the foam and would just use it. That is hyperbole and shows dismissal of the points being made as to why this incident was an issue.

    TLDR; Metal foam in the middle of marines is grief, wasting doc slot to hinder medics at roundstart is borderline grief, speedrunning first drop as doc leaving nurses to run prep should seriously be looked at as (imo) it shouldn't be happening and I feel like it should be against some form of procedure.

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    I've been witness to this and whilst I've seen metal foam been used tactically, it's pretty clear they're using it as a meme.

    Seen them metal-foam the dropship which stopped Marines getting aboard.

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    To attest to the point that Blackwell made about this being a continued problem, back on December 9th I was awarded the first medal given to the DCC role due to Amir foaming the dropship multiple times causing marines to be left out of the dropship to which i then had to cut my way out to them fighting off (thankfully bald) praes in order to save 5-6 marines, who weren't even all of them. He was bringing janitorial buckets full of foam to the planet in that round and seems to be doing so now. Lunar has been reproached both IC and OOC for his actions but has not changed them, I do not think he is intentionally griefing but rather trying to have fun as an incredibly dull, and boring role. However, these actions are out of line with the role. I would recommend playing OT or research to do silly antics like this, not taking up the chem line's energy to make foam. cm medal 7.png
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    I ended up having to come back twice to make more meds for the medics in that particular round, and did have both IC and OOC discussion about it, essentially my point being that it's the same situation as if a specialist wasn't using their role weapons. Some people were also complaining in OOC/discord about why Amir wasn't doing organ repair surgery, the response was that they didn't know how. In subsequent rounds I've tried to offer assistance to learn but as I'm not a SEA I usually am quite busy and can't always commit to it. That said, Amir/lunar did display at least an initial willingness to learn though more time will tell if that goes beyond sporadic conversations or extends into spending some time with a SEA or with the wiki up putting actual effort into playing the doctor role instead of a meme foam bomber.

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    I'm aware I'm not perfect, I don't play as competitively as some others, I don't have tons of macros. Only just recently had I discovered the numpad trick to switch limb targeting for healing limbs. To make up for this, I plan ahead and have backup plans, communicate with others, and do what I can to preserve marine life even if it means I may die. These patterns - Having backup plans to help others, communicating intent even in tough scenarios, working together, acting to preserve life - Are evident in the logs.

    I start the round preparing everything I can to help marines groundside, including additional defibs and surgical tools, and communicate my intent to do so.

    I communicate with the synth, Phelan, with the goal of working together groundside and improving my surgical knowledge so I can help more marines.

    I take a container of extra defibs and put it on the alamo, and I'm carrying some in my hands as shown by the logs when I throw one at Seraphine Decarte (as well as when I mention them in chat).

    I communicate on medsci comms that I'm not 100% confident in my organ surgery skills, since I've not had to do one in a while.

    At this point, I'm strapped into the dropship, prepared, with all my surgical equipment, extra defibs, backup foams, and ready to work together with the synth groundside. Jean pulls me out of DS to help chems as it was understaffed, I point out to him that I can't help with chems, and I deployed because of that. I'd already communicated with the synth that I would help groundside. and suddenly leaving them alone to make chems (which I was never taught how to do) simply doesn't make sense, especially given I've taken the surgical vest. I'll stress it again: I'd prepared for surgery, I could help the most groundside, whereas I would be a dead weight in chems.

    After this misunderstanding I deploy properly with plenty of medical equipment. Given that now we were aware of xenomorph presence, it made even more sense to prepare carefully and have emergency plans in case something went wrong.

    We land and I hear a marine is infected. I've never dealt with an infected marine, so I leave it to the synth. He can do more complicated procedures, and I can help with overall keeping marines healthy, fixing fractures, and helping with what I can with regards to organ surgery, even if I'm neither perfect nor fast.

    Almost immediately I am hit with an acid ball by a Prae after having left the DS. The Prae was not inside the LZ, but it was so badly defended that she strolled up to the cades and felt content to toss an acid ball at the medics inside. The Prae came back for more, splashing me with acid, again while I was inside the small FOB. Logs will support this, and you can see my worry for marines when I ahelp thinking T3s are simply about to metarush us all.

    Iff the Praetorian and Warrior sitting next to FOB wasn't bad enough (and certainly distracting us from immediately perfoming our medical duties), TKO the runner breaks into FOB and makes a beeline for me, immediately focusing me down while the Praetorian continues to spit acid from beyond the cadeline. Logs will confirm that TKO was focusing me.

    This is a critical moment - A perfect excuse to foam if I really wanted to grief. I could claim I panicked, and wanted to block the praetorian to save myself. After all, it's hardly my fault, is it? I was just unlucky. But that's not how I play the game. I don't act exclusively in my own best interest. I don't foam and shrug afterwards saying there was nothing else to be done. I reserve foam as an absolute last resort, or to save marine life. Are you sure I am griefing? Keep this moment in mind the rest of the round.

    Thankfully the medics and synth, Phelan fend off TKO and treat me. When I wake up, the FIRST THING I DO is communicate to my team that I have foam to give them reasonable warning in case a proper breach happens. I prioritize the wellbeing of marines over my own health even though I'd just been killed.

    A short time later, pressure mounting on the FOB, I was approached to do organ surgery. My plans to learn from Phelan had been interrupted by me dying and the chaos TKO caused, but since I had the tools I wanted to give it my best shot and help the marine.

    The marine runs off when they hear I'm having trouble with the surgery, so I yell at them to get back so I can do my best to heal them instead of leave them with organ damage. I experiment with a few different tools since I remember fragments of organ surgery, which is naturally exactly when a Ravager shoots us all with bone chips and smashes through the cades.

    Surely NOW I foam, right? A T3 is inside FOB, attacking me and my defenseless patient, the marines have crumbled... If the runner didn't do it, A T3 is an amazing excuse to foam. Except I don't foam to save my own life. I was angry that a T3 had broken through, but thinking logically, one T3 can be repelled. I'm not going to do something stupid and foam everybody over one T3 being a bit ballsy.

    If a proper breach happens, THAT's when I'll foam, and the logs confirm this as it's precisely what I say: "I WILL FOAM IF THEY BREACH". If FOB literally falls and there's seconds until the LZ is overrun, then only under those conditions (and to avoid marines just crumpling) will I foam.

    I warn my fellow marines a SECOND time, "Amir can foam to cover escape", even while I'm low from the Rav. I don't ever want marines to become stuck in foam, which is why I give so many warnings and restrict it to only the most dangerous of situations.

    Despite dying of pain I drag a body to the safety of the DS and offer medical attention to those who need it. Most marines are pilled up, so despite being unsure of the steps I volunteer to help fix Sergey Petrenko's chest. Logs will confirm that I was being healed while performing surgery on another marine - I injected myself with painkillers so I didn't pass out, and continued to do my job as best I could, prioritizing another marine over myself.

    At this point I'm juggling my own health, watching out for rogue runners, Praes spitting, Ravs trying to breach, while trying to follow the synth's instructions (I believe they helped list the steps for chest surgery), and getting another patient who was hugged. The rest of the doctors are busy, so I volunteer to help kill the larva. As luck would have it naturally this is when the xenos begun to breach for real, so I do my best to seal up the surgery and hope he can survive long enough to fix his organs on the Almayer.

    After multiple warnings and multiple suboptimal chances to foam, I finally DO foam, specifically with the intent to slow the approaching swarm of T3s and queen, and allow marines as much time as possible to get on the dropship and evac, as logs will confirm.

    I notice 2 ravs heading for the west DS doors and a dead marine on the ground, so in an effort to stall the ravs from entering the chaotic dropship (use your imagination to think what would have happened) as well as give myself time to save the marine, I foam a second time. The ravs hesitate just long enough for me to grab Karina and drag her to the relative safety of the DS, where I defib her successfully and save her. Without this foam, the 2 ravs would have entered the DS and we would have lost a marine.

    We arrive at the Almayer and begin bringing people to medbay to heal them - I notice a revivable marine has been discarded and I curse when he goes perma while I'm trying to help him.

    Hijack begins, I'm hungry from running from runners, ravs, praes, boilers so I bring some cookies for myself as well as other marines, hoping to improve morale and keep them well fed in case they need to retreat quickly.

    I drop a few Bucket+beaker combos on the ground and coordinate with some other marines, including the CL, to foam in the event of a breach - And not before! By delegating a task to the CL like this, I can focus on helping marines, healing fractures, patching them up, and rely on a teammate to seal lifeboats closed if xenos come.

    Evac is set to 15m, in my experience 10m tends to be the fair point where xenos have a chance to breach and marines have a chance to evac. I comment in mod chat that 15m may be a bit too long, as it increases the time xenos have to assault defenses by 50%. In other words, marines have to find a way to survive for 50% longer or else they ALL die.

    One marine comments on me using foam and I respond as honestly as possible: Build a better FOB. If marines unga into xenos and leave a Praetorian to spit at every doctor in FOB while TKO runs around focusing our medics, what do you think will happen? If FOB was defended properly and not abandoned as it often is, if a Rav was not allowed to break into FOB and begin attacking people, maybe foam would have been unnecessary. But we WERE sieged by T3s, they WERE NOT properly repelled, our marines DID ungaball and die, and some SURVIVED thanks to me buying time with foam as the absolute last resort.

    I notice that xenos are pushing through our defenses in lifeboats, marines huddling together, turrets being hit by endless boiler barrages, Queen stomps audible and Ravs breaking the cades. We still have a few minutes to go before evac is called, so I foam to create a barrier between ourselves and the xenos to buy time and minimize boiler damage.

    The Queen appears to have pushed INTO the foam, underestimating its strength - She died, trapped in foam. Time is ticking down, the marines at the cades are impossible to save (there are about ten xenos sitting on them), and cades will contain the foam outside of the lifeboats. Buying time is the single most critical variable at the moment. Again it proves itself useful and the Ravager dies as he overextends and is bursted down thank to the foam.

    The immediate threat gone, I refocus my efforts to helping marines - One of which had been inap ODed by the other doctor. A marine complains about the foam (which by now has saved marines and led to the death of the Queen and a Rav), and I tell him to "Cry about it". Every second counts during evac. I will not wait until Queen is on the ship screeching to foam. I foamed proactively to buy time and it accomplished that goal extremely well.

    It did so well that a small marine counterpush began shortly after the Queen's death - Not only had we killed the Queen, saved marines, but we'd also pushed them back enough that the lifeboats could actually evacuate resulting in a Xeno Minor.

    I foam one last time in celebration - I fully admit I was wrong to do so, it was LRP of me to foam on the lifeboat as there was no need for it and we had already evacuated. That foam was the worst one all game because it accomplished nothing. All my other foams, however, had accomplished their goals and there is no way we would have survived without them.




    I warned multiple times I would foam only if a severe breach happend; Severe breaches happened; I foamed as a result. Foam takes ~15s to solidify. It is not comparable to a SADAR FFing somebody (where you have frames within which to react). If you are too slow to simply walk out of a foam, then you would die anyways to Runners, Lurkers etc. The same way I do not expect somebody with 10 fracs to escape a foam, I also do not expect them to be savable as they will never make it onto the dropship in the first place. Same goes for dead marines at cades; Technically I have blocked them with foam. But nobody is leaving an evaccing DS to rescue somebody past 2 ravagers, let's be realistic here.

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    Will dissect this tomorrow.
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    Ok there's a lot to dissect, mostly waffle. Lets begin.


    I'd already communicated with the synth that I would help groundside. and suddenly leaving them alone to make chems (which I was never taught how to do) simply doesn't make sense, especially given I've taken the surgical vest. I'll stress it again: I'd prepared for surgery, I could help the most groundside, whereas I would be a dead weight in chems.
    You claim to be "a dead weight in chems" yet it requires a intermediate level of chemistry knowledge to make "Foaming agent", which also begs the question that you found time to make foaming agent in a chemistry lab, take a janitor bucket from a location and go through the effort of mixing the 'correct' proportions and acquiring the correct chemicals, which also means that you negated your job for your own benefit.

    If a proper breach happens, THAT's when I'll foam, and the logs confirm this as it's precisely what I say: "I WILL FOAM IF THEY BREACH". If FOB literally falls and there's seconds until the LZ is overrun, then only under those conditions (and to avoid marines just crumpling) will I foam.
    Why? Why foam? It's not your job to be focusing on breaches, your a DOCTOR not a engineer. You should be focusing on your patient rather than thinking "uhh hole FOB breach me foam" and along with that your completely disregarding the fact it was EXCESSIVE and flooding onto marines who are extremely likely to miss this due to them being mid-combat, as suggested by the fact its the FOB siege.

    One marine comments on me using foam and I respond as honestly as possible: Build a better FOB. If marines unga into xenos and leave a Praetorian to spit at every doctor in FOB while TKO runs around focusing our medics, what do you think will happen? If FOB was defended properly and not abandoned as it often is, if a Rav was not allowed to break into FOB and begin attacking people, maybe foam would have been unnecessary. But we WERE sieged by T3s, they WERE NOT properly repelled, our marines DID ungaball and die, and some SURVIVED thanks to me buying time with foam as the absolute last resort.
    This is a pretty selfish view to have, you've had a marine come up to you and complain about your use of foam presumably because it inconvenienced them, or killed them - although that's difficult to gauge without incredibly thorough logs - and you've told a MARINE not a engineer to build a better FOB. Additionally, you have access to comms and your at the FOB; since from your own account it seems that the engineers were bald, why not help them? Tell them where the FOB should be reinforced, again your looking for an excuse to use the foam nades. Additionally, an account from Decker states how this was at a bottom line is grief and there is no excuse for it.
    Seen them metal-foam the dropship which stopped Marines getting aboard.
    Then ANOTHER account of the DS incident shows this
    the problem I have in this case is there was no coordination, it was a doc for crying out loud. Were they on squad comms talking to marines? Did they even have Binos to observe and identify effective opportunities? Alpha comms was absent of any of this so i'm not aware of this was the case.
    You were not coordinating this effectively for marines to listen to you, or you simply chose not to.

    The Queen appears to have pushed INTO the foam, underestimating its strength - She died, trapped in foam. Time is ticking down, the marines at the cades are impossible to save (there are about ten xenos sitting on them), and cades will contain the foam outside of the lifeboats. Buying time is the single most critical variable at the moment. Again it proves itself useful and the Ravager dies as he overextends and is bursted down thank to the foam.
    The queen did not die because of the foam, unless logs will prove me wrong.

    The immediate threat gone, I refocus my efforts to helping marines - One of which had been inap ODed by the other doctor. A marine complains about the foam (which by now has saved marines and led to the death of the Queen and a Rav), and I tell him to "Cry about it". Every second counts during evac. I will not wait until Queen is on the ship screeching to foam. I foamed proactively to buy time and it accomplished that goal extremely well.
    This is the second marine in your account that has complained to you about the foam and you though the most appropriate thing was to say "Cry about it"? This goes back to my previous point of you looking for excusing to use foam nades, along with the fact that you were doing this intentionally to "meme". You foaming ""proactively"" lead to this
    The absolute worst instance within this round though was the use of metal foam on multiple occasions in the MIDDLE OF MARINES at lifeboats. This is absolutely unacceptable, the tile coverage was so large that the entirety of the lobby was covered meanwhile marines are dying and going perma at the front, firing lines were blocked, xenos had free reign to claw tiles and push to gain ground.
    At this time I was a ghost and spectating this whole affair after dying as the CO, I watched you foam right ontop of marine lines with one message of warning. One message of warning. This lead to SEVERAL marines getting stuck, one or two marines getting killed by xenos and countless trapped and a disruption to the hold. This is grief.

    I warned multiple times I would foam only if a severe breach happend; Severe breaches happened; I foamed as a result. Foam takes ~15s to solidify. It is not comparable to a SADAR FFing somebody (where you have frames within which to react). If you are too slow to simply walk out of a foam, then you would die anyways to Runners, Lurkers etc. The same way I do not expect somebody with 10 fracs to escape a foam, I also do not expect them to be savable as they will never make it onto the dropship in the first place. Same goes for dead marines at cades; Technically I have blocked them with foam. But nobody is leaving an evaccing DS to rescue somebody past 2 ravagers, let's be realistic here.
    Wow. Just wow. You clearly don't understand anything about what we're trying to get to you.
    Severe breaches happened; I foamed as a result. Foam takes ~15s to solidify. It is not comparable to a SADAR FFing somebody (where you have frames within which to react).
    Foam cannot be stopped when it reacts, poor argument.
    If you are too slow to simply walk out of a foam, then you would die anyways to Runners, Lurkers etc. The same way I do not expect somebody with 10 fracs to escape a foam, I also do not expect them to be savable as they will never make it onto the dropship in the first place.
    A classic "this is your fault not my fault". Along with the fact your clearly neglecting the fact that marine DO exit the DS to save marines, it's quite often actually.
    Same goes for dead marines at cades; Technically I have blocked them with foam.
    There is no "Technically" you either have or you haven't - and you clearly have.
    But nobody is leaving an evaccing DS to rescue somebody past 2 ravagers, let's be realistic here.
    Refer to my previous point. The person who should be realistic is you, your playing a doctor, you chose to foam several marines which resulted in several deaths, you chose to neglect your duties, you chose to waste a slot and you griefed marines.



    A lot of words, and to conclude you still haven't addressed the fact its over several rounds and you CLEARLY lack any remorse for your actions, neither have you actually said sorry for well anything or addressed your comments after and before the round(s).



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    Some mentions of foaming at the fob to what appears to be the hijack at lifepods. It's not all of the mentions but it gets the point across.

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    All of the mentions I could find of Lunarflu doing surgery during the round - however this seems to be shortly before the fob was swarmed and taken over by xenos and hijack seems to have happened not that long afterwards.
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    If any foam bombs were activated they don't appear to have appeared on the logs when activated for whatever reason, but here are rough timestamps of when foam grenades were detonated based on deadchats reactions as well as the appearance of "obj/structure/foamedmetal" at these times.

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    Since it was mentioned, here's the log of Lunar talking to phelan and also mentioning they don't know organ surgery very well.
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    Update:

    I've been asked to put some extra logs in for context so I'll do that.

    Lunar being attacked by a runner roughly 3 or so minutes before the first foam-creating reaction went off, and a ravager at the lifeboats; presumably from being blocked by foam.

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    I was asked also to include any deaths that happened around about the time the foam was created. There weren't that many that died within a reasonable time-frame after the foam was created, but they're still there.

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    Feel free to hit me up on discord if I've missed anything and I'll get on it as soon as possible.
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    At the time the report was submitted, server RP rules were more lenient than they are today and expectations on what was required for a player to be considered fulfilling the duties of the job they selected were also a lot more open to interpretation.

    Logs show that Amir Al-shabbah Alomera performed surgery on two patients and referred a third to the Synth, Phelan due to not knowing how to perform larva-implant removal.
    Logs show Amir did attempt to communicate intentions to use the foam, and for what purpose to others. The usage was consistent with what could be considered a reasonable move to try out, given the circumstances. (Although it does appear that it wasn’t as effective as expected/intended.)

    The logs also show that two marines and one ravager were killed, at least in part due to the use of the foam. While that’s not ideal, it is within the threshold for accidental friendly fire type incidents. Combined with the log showing that the foam use and intention was announced lends weight to the conclusion that the marine deaths were accidental.

    Amir did have a history of using foam in various ways across several rounds around this time, and at the time it was reviewed and determined to be meme-y, but no more so than other common activities which were allowed at the time. By current RP standards, it’s likely that this would merit intervention, but we don’t enforce server rules retroactively.

    People favor different play styles, and while I can sympathize with those who found this round frustrating, there are no actionable rule breaks here.

    Report is denied.

    Edited to clarify:
    The report on this specific round was denied based on logs. Staff is aware that at around time of the report there were similar instances, which was addressed by SomeNerd at that time.
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