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Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 01:12

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Marine Name (so we know who you are; if you play alien mostly, state that here): Haythem Castian, although most players generally know me as a xenomorph player. Something of a reputation as Queen.

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Ai-Nai'stbi

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? Yes I have taken the time to review the Predator's code of honor.

Character background (An ADEQUATE description and story of your predators background):
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How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator)? To be quite honest, killing in this game has become rather part and parcel to me(I frequently play as the Queen, who is stationary for most of the round leaving my job to command and direct) While I will engage in the hunt for the sake of glory and honor and enjoying a melee centered role that's not a xeno, finding someone I think would give me a run for my money without curbstomping my face, what I'm REALLY looking forward to is the ability to have a non-hostile interaction that isn't exactly friendly either.

Generally when you play either side, any kind of interaction is nearly impossible, because inevitably if one side lets their guard down the other will kill them. Predators on the other hand, while yes still vulnerable to various marine shenanigans, are far more able to interact with both sides in more ways than bloodshed and in unique manners. If the marines aren't shooting you, you're probably a human and a marine, which limits possible ways to engage in interesting dialogue. By the same manner, if a xeno isn't ripping your face off, you're probably a xeno or being tackle spammed. Most xenos usually won't start shit with a predator, and I realize I'll regret saying this later when I get RPG'd out of nowhere, marines usually won't fire on sight at predators.

I eagerly look forward to all the kinds of taunts, challenges, mockery, some heartfelt comedy(That was a joke. Probably. Laughing at stupid people's mistakes can be fun.) I'll be able to engage in without getting shot, shanked, stabbed, or some other unpleasant ending.

To be honest I fully anticipate rounds where I never have a single kill, because it's just not that rewarding anymore to smack down on someone who can barely challenge me, with anyone that would challenge me be leagues above me and absolutely wreck my shit.

Why should we whitelist you? I've been a mentor for a few months and I've been a part of the CM community for several years now. I like to consider myself a veteran player, in addition to being an enormous fan of Predator and Alien comics(I have tons of them on my kindle).

I just hope to be able to add to the madness in my own way, and maybe create a few opportunities that are woefully lacking in this day and age.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? I have not been banned in the last month no.(HA, perks of being staff. Can't get beaned unless I get removed too.)

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?
Yes I am currently banned from Paradise Station(I got beaned in February). I could give you an extremely long story as to why I didn't do anything wrong and my salt was justified, but in essence, I told an officer he was absolute shit at his job in OOC after the round ended, and a prime example of why players despise security. This netted me a ban. Like I said I still feel I was justified considering he arrested me for trespassing instead of the person stabbing me with scalpel, broke my skull twice with his baton, set me on fire(By removing my helmet as a plasmaman) during surgery to fix my skull, and finally I spent the remaining thirty minutes of the round in the brig processing room because everyone was too busy fighting shadowlings to help this guy learn his job. At this point I refuse to appeal a ban out of principle.

Aside from the Paradise mess I have no outstanding bans.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Yes I am aware I can get the boot at any time should I fail to comply with the rules.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 01:13

Also, just as a forward. Apologies if the perspectives were a little confusing in the story. It's not my habit to switch viewpoints with so little warning, but I really wanted to convey a point with that.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Sleepy Retard » 16 Nov 2018, 07:02

So...you want to play your pred in a way where you insult the Marines and xenos sometimes? That's all I got out of your play style.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Karmac » 16 Nov 2018, 07:04

Two things:

First thing; What's the story supposed to tell me about your predator exactly? Aside the brief monologue at the beginning, you go into more detail about the prey and his surroundings than the predator himself.

Second thing; What's the playstyle supposed to be? "My predator will hunt, but ALSO he will roleplay" is what that short paragraph boiled down to from what I read. This also had absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote in the story so I cannot fathom what the point of this statement was.

Big -1 from me so far.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 07:53

Karmac wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 07:04
Two things:

First thing; What's the story supposed to tell me about your predator exactly? Aside the brief monologue at the beginning, you go into more detail about the prey and his surroundings than the predator himself.

Second thing; What's the playstyle supposed to be? "My predator will hunt, but ALSO he will roleplay" is what that short paragraph boiled down to from what I read. This also had absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote in the story so I cannot fathom what the point of this statement was.

Big -1 from me so far.
I can admit I may have been a tad bit carried away with the imagery, but I like imagery, and my intent was for this to be perceived as him making the observations himself. He's somewhat dispassionate, easily distracted, and more interested by something as simple as a door knob than his quarry up until it was a threat to his health.

Second thing. Level with me, and tell me that 90% of applications don't boil down to the same thing, with a little bit of fluff that from all the countless rounds I've watched predators hunt rarely factors in. What I wanted you to take away from this was that I'm not playing this to revel in the fight. Y'know "KILL BURN MAIM" but rather I'm more interested in the uniquely different chance to interact with both sides in a manner not requiring bloodshed, as roleplay planetside is usually extremely difficult to accomplish thanks to the lurking threat of vicious bloodthirsty aliens.

I come into this after we have had hundreds of players make their application, and I have no delusions about what I can accomplish in the limited confines of this game while remaining true to Predator lore. Maybe I'm an asshole who's being overly meta, but I'd rather be straightforward about it then beat around the bush when I know what it will amount to. The intent of my story was to point out that I'm not illiterate as well as show to some degree a bit of personality. I probably commited the same crime I used to in highschool English where I read a writing prompt and totally misinterpret the requested information.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 07:57

Sleepy Retard wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 07:02
So...you want to play your pred in a way where you insult the Marines and xenos sometimes? That's all I got out of your play style.
Refer to my post for Karmac. I've watched countless rounds with predators in my time on this server and there's very little I can do that is still fresh and unique due to gameplay confines, as well as what other players will play along for. My intended message was "I'm not here so much for the fight as I am to have a nonviolent, albeit probably hostile, interaction with both sides, something impossible for marines and xenos to accomplish with one another since they're busy murdering one another."
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Karmac » 16 Nov 2018, 07:57

Okay so your excuse for having a bad application is everyone else has a bad application? I don't mind if none of this carries over into the game, that's your responsibility, but at least make it look like you tried here.

Additionally, saying we should white-list because you are a staff member is possibly the most unintelligent thing I've ever heard, I'd understand more if you'd added on "And I believe this has helped me become a more responsible figure amongst the community". As it stands, it feels like you're just sort of asking for this white-list to be given to you.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 08:02

Karmac wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 07:57
Okay so your excuse for having a bad application is everyone else has a bad application? I don't mind if none of this carries over into the game, that's your responsibility, but at least make it look like you tried here.

Additionally, saying we should white-list because you are a staff member is possibly the most unintelligent thing I've ever heard, I'd understand more if you'd added on "And I believe this has helped me become a more responsible figure amongst the community". As it stands, it feels like you're just sort of asking for this white-list to be given to you.
That's not what I'm saying. You confuse a a belief in simplicity not inherently being bad with a lack of effort. If I had not wanted to try, I would have done worse. I am trying to be straightforward. I'm sorry to hear you're not seeing it the same way I do but c'est la vie.

If I wanted to use my mentorship as an excuse, I would have referred to it more than in passing, but I hardly consider that worth noting more than "I try my best to help the community to some degree."
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Sleepy Retard » 16 Nov 2018, 08:05

KingPhilipIII wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 07:57
Refer to my post for Karmac. I've watched countless rounds with predators in my time on this server and there's very little I can do that is still fresh and unique due to gameplay confines, as well as what other players will play along for. My intended message was "I'm not here so much for the fight as I am to have a nonviolent, albeit probably hostile, interaction with both sides, something impossible for marines and xenos to accomplish with one another since they're busy murdering one another."
okay noted ty
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Karmac » 16 Nov 2018, 08:45

Except you spent what equated to an entire paragraph of pointless exposition on how you didn't want to kill people because 'predators are op', which was probably the most roundabout way to be straightforward. In addition, this is possibly the lamest way of portraying your intended play-style, and does not go into detail on what exactly or how exactly you intend to accomplish this.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 08:48

Karmac wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 08:45
Except you spent what equated to an entire paragraph of pointless exposition on how you didn't want to kill people because 'predators are op', which was probably the most roundabout way to be straightforward. In addition, this is possibly the lamest way of portraying your intended play-style, and does not go into detail on what exactly or how exactly you intend to accomplish this.
Alright I was a bit wordy you got me there but I still disagree with how you interpret my statement, but like I said, c'est la vie.

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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by Karmac » 16 Nov 2018, 08:51

Yes, but it does give other predators an insight into how you'll act as a predator, which is especially helpful for people who haven't seen you play, i.e. Myself. You're essentially expecting me to just trust your word for it here pal.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 09:01

Karmac wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 08:51
Yes, but it does give other predators an insight into how you'll act as a predator, which is especially helpful for people who haven't seen you play, i.e. Myself. You're essentially expecting me to just trust your word for it here pal.
I do the same thing when I write as a hobby. I rarely have an initial plan, I wing it and refine in hindsight. I say this with no deception or falsehood, I considered what I would be able to do as an end result, I genuinely did not plan out some complex playstyle or tick. Take that however you want, positive or negative.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 16 Nov 2018, 09:33

Hey let’s not keep up the back and forth here debate. He gave his negative 1 recommendation. If you guys want to talk about it take it to a private message or discord thanks

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Post by Ghostdex » 16 Nov 2018, 10:12

I'm not really feeling the application, sure the story was cool but didn't say anything about your predator more than 'he hunts and kills'. The 'why should we whitelist you' part has already been pointed out which I can agree with on it, it's rather eh. I mostly see you play xeno and when you don't I haven't seen you pull off any great RP.

For the reasons above I'm going with a -1 for now.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 16 Nov 2018, 10:43

ghostdex wrote:
16 Nov 2018, 10:12
I'm not really feeling the application, sure the story was cool but didn't say anything about your predator more than 'he hunts and kills'. The 'why should we whitelist you' part has already been pointed out which I can agree with on it, it's rather eh. I mostly see you play xeno and when you don't I haven't seen you pull off any great RP.

For the reasons above I'm going with a -1 for now.
Can respect that. Like I said I probably made the same mistake I did in highschool. Didn't follow the prompt properly and got carried away.

And noted for the future.
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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 16 Nov 2018, 10:57

So I reviewed it and I would say its a "Generic application" that he put effort into. From what I gather he's "Meh I'm a pred, I hunt, I insult oomans and serpents."
There's nothing wrong with that.

My expectations of predators active members of the community, who aren't shitlords, and know how to roleplay.

He is mostly a xeno main and one of our more popular queens, so I can't fault him for that.


I'm going to +1 it based more so on his reputation than the application.

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Post by Symbiosis » 16 Nov 2018, 18:44

I’m going to go with +1. During my many months playing Xeno I had many, many experiences with KingPhillip (KP).

They weren’t an Unga Battle Queen like me. They had the ability to, sure. They preferred a more gradual ramp up. They allowed the round to proceed without THEM being the focus and sole driver.

This is why I’ll give this a +1. The app isn’t phenomenal by any means, but I have little doubt that the player will do well in the role and make the focus of the round on other individuals.
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Post by Imperator_Titan » 16 Nov 2018, 18:57

The backstory told me more about the thugs and their lifestyles than the predator himself and as usual, that's a big red flag. The playstyle is extremely generic and offers nothing new.

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Re: Ai-Nai'stbi (Different Courage)

Post by KingPhilipIII » 28 Nov 2018, 16:53

Cheers folks. Appreciate the feedback, gonna withdraw my app.

Might as well do it now so I can fix my mistakes sooner rather than whenever Emerald smacks me with that denied. This has stagnated a bit.
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