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Post by lucashunter608 » 10 Sep 2016, 05:31

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Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here):Lucas Oliveira

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Setg'in Thwei

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? A lot actually, I've been reading the wiki of the predators and i learned a bunch of things i didn't know.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):Setg'in was born in one of the most honorable clans in the Yautja Prime. As time went by, each member of his family met their demise. Many of them tried to hunt xenomorphs but died a brave death. Setg'in started by hunting puny vermin, but one day he knew he would hunt xenomorphs just like his family once did. He trained with the elder of another clan but suffered in the process, as the elder didn't go easy on him. When he saw Setg'in was ready, he ordered Setg'in and two other Yautja, Yeyin and Lar'ja, to hunt a Quatza-Rij in order to test their skills. They fought fearlessly, but in the battle, Lar'ja lost his life, and Setg'in one of his eyes. The elder saw that he had earned his first battle scar and was pleased, but he told him that he must not stop until he becomes a veritable xenomorph hunter.[/glow]
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How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)? I want to be as agressive as possible, not showing fear or remorse when hunting my prey, stalking the marines and setting traps, luring the xenomorphs and hunting both species, i mostly do things alone but i can and will capture humans to make them slaves, the only thing that matters is how my opponents will fight, i want to entertain the people that are playing in the same round as I, i will do as many events as possible, doing raids on both bases and etc. i will also be stealthy as possible.

Why should we whitelist you? I want to make rounds more spicey and fun at the same time, there's not many predators 24/7 in the server, and i will try to be 24/7, i'm a little worried to become the same old boring predator every single round, i hope that doesn't happen.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? Not in this month.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why? Hippie, i tried to help a friend understand the server and he tried to drown and kill the clown.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Neither of those, but if i needed to choose one of those i would break a rule, since the code of honor would ruin the round and probably piss a lot of people, but both are still very important and they should't be disobey'd, i understand.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Helgraf » 10 Sep 2016, 09:46

I like the way you intent to play the predator, it certainly seems unique to me. I liked your story alot as well. I haven't seen you too much ingame recently though, that could be just me since im playing xenomorph a bit more often for now. I don't how well you RP so i'm purely going off the story. Your banning on hippie doesnt discourage me since i know how hippie can get. I also don't know however your ban history on here so that makes me a little hesitant. I think you will do good and wont break the rules as a predator though since you understand the code of honor is VERY IMPORTANT, however you still dont want to break rules, that would be bad. Overall, i am confident in your abilities I would say.
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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 10 Sep 2016, 20:22

Helgraf wrote:I like the way you intent to play the predator, it certainly seems unique to me. I liked your story alot as well. I haven't seen you too much ingame recently though, that could be just me since im playing xenomorph a bit more often for now. I don't how well you RP so i'm purely going off the story. Your banning on hippie doesnt discourage me since i know how hippie can get. I also don't know however your ban history on here so that makes me a little hesitant. I think you will do good and wont break the rules as a predator though since you understand the code of honor is VERY IMPORTANT, however you still dont want to break rules, that would be bad. Overall, i am confident in your abilities I would say.
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If i do remember, i had been banned from "ramboing" the caves, what happaned was...me and another marine were going to the caves to scout and help the other team, right when we were in the caves the commander says there is two survivors in the crashed ship, we got in there, tried to convince them going with us, we failed and suddently some stupid marine rushed to the hive and i tried to go after him, as i went back i found some larvas scattered in the ground and i decided to kill them, when i was in the middle of the road an admin starts discussing with me and bla bla bla, turns out i got banned for ramboing.

I stopped playing for some weeks because i was playing a lot of M&B (mount and blade) and paradise, about my RP, i can say some wrong words but overall i think i'm fine and people can understand me.

I think by far, i only got banned 3 times, first one was in the alpha, i killed lots of SSD marines for !!FUN!!, got unbanned and started playing correctly, the other one i realy don't remember why i got banned, and the last one i already stated up there, that's all!

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by DMAN » 10 Sep 2016, 22:21

+1 Will breathe some fresh air into preds.
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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Boltersam » 11 Sep 2016, 06:53

I'll say this right off the bat, personally, I don't think you'd be a good Predator, simply from previous interactions with you.

However, I can't say -1 just for disliking someone, so I'll try for a neutral view.

The back story is fine, it's spell checked, MOST of the grammar is adequate, but I do have a few qualms with it.

Your Predator not knowing about humans is...Rather strange.

The first hunt was abnormal, Predators being solitary creatures, and being able to kill a creature that singlehandedly tore a fully armed Predator apart in seconds, with a single punch is a big exaggeration of strength. Generally, snowflake Predators that have plot armour and excel at any form of combat are frowned upon.

Then the Queen speaking to him in his sleep, telling him how special and DIFFERENT he was from ALL the other Predators on the planet.

Being an orphan was a nice step from the norm as most applicants don't go into their Predators' families. Both of his parents being badasses, the father singlehandedly hunting Badbloods and taking two down before exploding, when all THREE, experienced, armed, dangerous Badbloods, that could use plasmacasters at will without the honor code, and the mother taking down nearly a whole Xenomorph hive, a feat that takes no less than THREE skilled, potential Elites to do!

For your play style, we're not aggressive simply because we're not supposed to hunt either side to near extinction or cripple them for the rest of the round, because we're not supposed to be a major impact on either side unless they decide to throw everything they have at the Lodge, or Jones decides to go up on the Sulaco and duel the CO.

Hippie is infamous for having a very loose behaviour on enforcing rules. It would take more than murdering a clown to be banned, unless the clown was staff.

Being banned from CM no less than three times doesn't put you in a good light, either.

honor code violations result in removal from the whitelist. Stating that you will break them, isn't a good way to be accepted, even if it'd be for the betterment of the round.

-1, both personally and from analysis of your application, I don't think you should be whitelisted.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 11 Sep 2016, 07:11

Boltersam wrote:I'll say this right off the bat, personally, I don't think you'd be a good Predator, simply from previous interactions with you.

However, I can't say -1 just for disliking someone, so I'll try for a neutral view.

The back story is fine, it's spell checked, MOST of the grammar is adequate, but I do have a few qualms with it.

Your Predator not knowing about humans is...Rather strange.

The first hunt was abnormal, Predators being solitary creatures, and being able to kill a creature that singlehandedly tore a fully armed Predator apart in seconds, with a single punch is a big exaggeration of strength. Generally, snowflake Predators that have plot armour and excel at any form of combat are frowned upon.

Then the Queen speaking to him in his sleep, telling him how special and DIFFERENT he was from ALL the other Predators on the planet.

Being an orphan was a nice step from the norm as most applicants don't go into their Predators' families. Both of his parents being badasses, the father singlehandedly hunting Badbloods and taking two down before exploding, when all THREE, experienced, armed, dangerous Badbloods, that could use plasmacasters at will without the honor code, and the mother taking down nearly a whole Xenomorph hive, a feat that takes no less than THREE skilled, potential Elites to do!

For your play style, we're not aggressive simply because we're not supposed to hunt either side to near extinction or cripple them for the rest of the round, because we're not supposed to be a major impact on either side unless they decide to throw everything they have at the Lodge, or Jones decides to go up on the Sulaco and duel the CO.

Hippie is infamous for having a very loose behaviour on enforcing rules. It would take more than murdering a clown to be banned, unless the clown was staff.

Being banned from CM no less than three times doesn't put you in a good light, either.

honor code violations result in removal from the whitelist. Stating that you will break them, isn't a good way to be accepted, even if it'd be for the betterment of the round.

-1, both personally and from analysis of your application, I don't think you should be whitelisted.
Alright, responding some of your views in my story, he trained with an elder for almost his entire life, as most as a Quartza can be tough as a queen, my predator is still a very strong Yautja, since i mentioned the elder didn't take easy on him, about the queen talking with me...maybe it was a little too snowflakery, but from my view of story, that queen who was talking with him would be the same queen that killed his mother, making the story a little more interesting, about the agressive part...i see a LOT of predators being friendly or simply IGNORING xenos, but the thing is, predators grow xenos to hunt them, not have a nice chat with tea, i don't want to be that kind of predator, if one tries to be friend with me, i'll just fight him off, wanting or not, from my point of view, i find that very dishonorable because they're supposed to be killing machines and have no fear, i already stated why i was banned, and they aren't that big, most people get banned, does that make them a bad player? no, everyone makes mistakes, and we should accept those, he doesn't know about humans because he simply never leaved Yautja Prime, he was training his entire life with an elder to finally face off the queen that killed his mother, about code of honor, i mentioned if i had an option i would NOT break any of those, but if i needed, i would break a very minor rule if there was no choice to make, since breaking the code of honor would remove my whitelist away, you should see me more in CM, i'm not sure why you rather don't like me in the game personally, that's all, please remember that i'm just responding to your critisism, not trying to start a "fight" here.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Boltersam » 11 Sep 2016, 07:21

lucashunter608 wrote: Alright, responding some of your views in my story, he trained with an elder for almost his entire life, as most as a Quartza can be tough as a queen, my predator is still a very strong Yautja, since i mentioned the elder didn't take easy on him, about the queen talking with me...maybe it was a little too snowflakery, but from my view of story, that queen who was talking with him would be the same queen that killed his mother, making the story a little more interesting, about the agressive part...i see a LOT of predators being friendly or simply IGNORING xenos, but the thing is, predators grow xenos to hunt them, not have a nice chat with tea, i don't want to be that kind of predator, if one tries to be friend with me, i'll just fight him off, wanting or not, from my point of view, i find that very dishonorable because they're supposed to be killing machines and have no fear, i already stated why i was banned, and they aren't that big, most people get banned, does that make them a bad player? no, everyone makes mistakes, and we should accept those, he doesn't know about humans because he simply never leaved Yautja Prime, he was training his entire life with an elder to finally face off the queen that killed his mother, about code of honor, i mentioned if i had an option i would NOT break any of those, but if i needed, i would break a very minor rule if there was no choice to make, since breaking the code of honor would remove my whitelist away, you should see me more in CM, i'm not sure why you rather don't like me in the game personally, that's all, please remember that i'm just responding to your critisism, not trying to start a "fight" here.
I never stated that you were.

As tough as a Queen? No. Here's why.
Even Predators have to obey the laws of realism and species. Saying your Predator can take on a Queen singlehandedly, is like saying a human with a sword could take on King Kong. A single Predator will never be physically stronger or faster than a Queen (With no eggsack, of course). There is a reason why it takes three aspiring Elites, some of the most skilled among the Predators, to bring down a hive.

I ignore T1s and Young T2s unless they attack me. Why? Because I'm too strong for them. There is no honor in killing a weaker foe than you. At most, killing T1s or Young T2s is justifiable if they attack you first.

The Predators on CM aren't killing machines. That's because we're not here to murderbone and flex with our gear capable of taking out an entire side.

Everyone makes mistakes, but that saying only works up to a point. Three bans from the very server you're trying to become a powerful, game-changing role on, makes me very hesitant to give you a +1.

Give me an example of a "Minor" rule in the Honor Code.

As for why I don't like you ingame? Personal interaction with you, hearing about you, and simply seeing how you act.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 11 Sep 2016, 07:44

I'm not talking about the honor code, i'm talking about the rules, i think even a T1 can take a predator if he is robust and has a trick in his hand, everyone is a worthy challenge, but i won't just go around and kill things, i'll see what both sides are doing, and decide which to attack, but always seeking for worthy prey to duel or hunt, for me? xenomorphs are stronger, even being T1, they can break your bones and can be a tough challenge if the player is good.

My bans aren't that big of a deal, not including the first one because it was in alpha and i was a stupid idiot back there, but the last one i can explain, i was heading to the caves with another marine and the commander makes an annoucement that some survivors were in the crashed ship, me and the other marine went there to investigate, we found the survivors, talked a little bit and all that, tried to convince them to go in the rasputin for rescue and a marine suddently starts to speak gibbish and runs off to the center of the cave, i go after him and try to find him but had no luck, as i was going back to the crashed ship i found some larvas, killed them and i have a discussion with the admin trying to explain why i was there, but i could't and i got banned for 12 hours, the other one i just don't realy remember what i did hehe.

Since that is a story and won't affect anything in my gameplay, i can be as badass as i want, if i killed the queen, would it matter gameplay wise? of course not, its just a story, i wanted to make my Yautja special in some way, since it is my story and i do what i want with it, from my perspective.

I'm not a bad player or a bad guy, i'm there to have a good time with my friends, kill some xeno scums, have fun you know? at least try to see how i play as a marine, how i react at things, how i do things!, i would like to have a chance to play as a predator, since i've been playing as marine and xeno since alpha, and things get kinda boring, i just want to try new experiences, but if you still want to give me a 1- its fine, everyone have their ways of seeing things, that's all.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by LordeKilly » 11 Sep 2016, 10:16

lucashunter608 wrote:I'm not talking about the honor code, i'm talking about the rules, i think even a T1 can take a predator if he is robust and has a trick in his hand, everyone is a worthy challenge, but i won't just go around and kill things, i'll see what both sides are doing, and decide which to attack, but always seeking for worthy prey to duel or hunt, for me? xenomorphs are stronger, even being T1, they can break your bones and can be a tough challenge if the player is good.

My bans aren't that big of a deal, not including the first one because it was in alpha and i was a stupid idiot back there, but the last one i can explain, i was heading to the caves with another marine and the commander makes an annoucement that some survivors were in the crashed ship, me and the other marine went there to investigate, we found the survivors, talked a little bit and all that, tried to convince them to go in the rasputin for rescue and a marine suddently starts to speak gibbish and runs off to the center of the cave, i go after him and try to find him but had no luck, as i was going back to the crashed ship i found some larvas, killed them and i have a discussion with the admin trying to explain why i was there, but i could't and i got banned for 12 hours, the other one i just don't realy remember what i did hehe.

Since that is a story and won't affect anything in my gameplay, i can be as badass as i want, if i killed the queen, would it matter gameplay wise? of course not, its just a story, i wanted to make my Yautja special in some way, since it is my story and i do what i want with it, from my perspective.

I'm not a bad player or a bad guy, i'm there to have a good time with my friends, kill some xeno scums, have fun you know? at least try to see how i play as a marine, how i react at things, how i do things!, i would like to have a chance to play as a predator, since i've been playing as marine and xeno since alpha, and things get kinda boring, i just want to try new experiences, but if you still want to give me a 1- its fine, everyone have their ways of seeing things, that's all.
The only think i'm with lucas here is probably the T1-T2 hunting. I've met some pretty formidable Hunters and Runners before, if you struggle fighting something, it's worthy in my opinon.

Now for the other things, having significant bans as a player is not good. The position holds you in high regard, and you can't make any fuckups. If you honestly think you won't mess up, go ahead. But just know that you shouldn't get pissed off if you get removed for doing some stupid shit and trying to apologize. It won't pass here.

Regarding the story, it does matter. It's not just some bullshit we do for filler, the position is a roleplay position. If you actually care about it and follow how it's meant to be played, you'd reflect your story somehow through your character in game. You trying to say that you were on-par with a Queen that early on just shows your lack of the lore, which is basically the the entire role. Referencing the lore, reflecting it's ideas and morals through your character and implementing them. Fucking up there isn't just, "oh, it's a dumb story, we don't even need it anyway," it's much more.

I've also had poor interactions with you before. Between that and the points Boltersam made, you're not doing too well.

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Also Kudos to you, Bolter. Your responses weren't generic and shitty like mine usually are.
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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Boltersam » 11 Sep 2016, 11:46

LordeKilly wrote: The only think i'm with lucas here is probably the T1-T2 hunting. I've met some pretty formidable Hunters and Runners before, if you struggle fighting something, it's worthy in my opinon.

Now for the other things, having significant bans as a player is not good. The position holds you in high regard, and you can't make any fuckups. If you honestly think you won't mess up, go ahead. But just know that you shouldn't get pissed off if you get removed for doing some stupid shit and trying to apologize. It won't pass here.

Regarding the story, it does matter. It's not just some bullshit we do for filler, the position is a roleplay position. If you actually care about it and follow how it's meant to be played, you'd reflect your story somehow through your character in game. You trying to say that you were on-par with a Queen that early on just shows your lack of the lore, which is basically the the entire role. Referencing the lore, reflecting it's ideas and morals through your character and implementing them. Fucking up there isn't just, "oh, it's a dumb story, we don't even need it anyway," it's much more.

I've also had poor interactions with you before. Between that and the points Boltersam made, you're not doing too well.

-1.

Also Kudos to you, Bolter. Your responses weren't generic and shitty like mine usually are.
Drink more coffee, better responses made. I don't respond to every application anyways, so I might as well make them count when I feel strongly about an app.

As for T1s, the only time they pose any kind of threat is Ancient, and even then it's minimal unless they have a competent person like, say, Whistles, the godlike Xeno.

T2s at Young are on-par in terms of threat level to their Elite equivalents in the T1 category. Unless, again, you have Whistles (I use him for an example because you CANNOT beat him if he's a hunter. And Toroic specialises in crushing.) dodging, strafing, running on and off weeds and slashing the bajeezus out've you, then I stand by the point that if you're going to spend time hunting something, it should be a Mature T2 and above.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 11 Sep 2016, 15:23

You know, i played as a predator in the bootleg and i'm sure i won't fuck up, i think you can compare a B18 armor user with a predator, since they are robust enough to resist ravanger hits, in my point of view, everyone pose a threat if they know how to fight, even that simple T1 can break your bone and stab your hand, i've had AWESOME interactions with predators before, becoming a slave is the best thing to happen, they teach you to hunt and all that cool stuff, i think i could have done better with the story itself, but i'm completely sure i won't fuck up, just look at my older app, just because you've had bad interactions with me doesn't mean i will be a bad predator.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Boltersam » 11 Sep 2016, 16:26

lucashunter608 wrote:You know, i played as a predator in the bootleg and i'm sure i won't fuck up
The bootleg let anyone be a Predator. This stands for nothing.

And, previous interactions with you do matter, because if you're (Not actually what I think of you, just an example,) a person that we think would use the role to murderbone, metabuddy to hunt an entire side exclusively, etcetera, we would -1 you. As for you in particular, previous actions, the app itself, and your responses, lead me to believe you wouldn't fit the role.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 11 Sep 2016, 16:30

Boltersam wrote: The bootleg let anyone be a Predator. This stands for nothing.

And, previous interactions with you do matter, because if you're (Not actually what I think of you, just an example,) a person that we think would use the role to murderbone, metabuddy to hunt an entire side exclusively, etcetera, we would -1 you. As for you in particular, previous actions, the app itself, and your responses, lead me to believe you wouldn't fit the role.
Its fine if you think like that, i played as predator and learned a lot from it, that's why i think i will be a good predator

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by forwardslashN » 17 Sep 2016, 00:47

The story is passable, though I'm not sure why Yeyin failed the test by not helping his comrades. Or why they were all fighting the same thing, but that's a minor point. I don't think being a pred on the bootleg really qualifies you for this. I remember one of the accepted applications was a predator-janitor, and I'm pretty sure they accepted anyone to be whitelisted. More importantly though, you have some notes on you, and your last app was denied because of that. I'll just sit on neutral.
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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 17 Sep 2016, 09:35

forwardslashN wrote:The story is passable, though I'm not sure why Yeyin failed the test by not helping his comrades. Or why they were all fighting the same thing, but that's a minor point. I don't think being a pred on the bootleg really qualifies you for this. I remember one of the accepted applications was a predator-janitor, and I'm pretty sure they accepted anyone to be whitelisted. More importantly though, you have some notes on you, and your last app was denied because of that. I'll just sit on neutral.
Oh yeah, the underlines really make it difficult to read the text.
Yeyin didn't pass because he just didn't help his team take down the Quatza, http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Quatza-Rij as the wiki says, it is a tradition to hunt in a group of 3, since the animal can be probably compared to a ravanger in terms of strength, since Setg'in and his friends are very far from being the best hunters, they worked together to take down the Quatza, since only the most skillful hunters try to hunt it alone, i made my Yuatja Blooded just because of this hunt, if it wasn't for it, he would't even be on Lazarus since he would not be able to get his own spaceship to travel space.

About the bootleg server...yes, they accepted anyone to join as pred, BUT there was a code of honor, so if anyone would break it the Yautja would be gibbed, i played around 5 rounds as predator and i can say i was doing good at it, i've learned how to do things and i'm sure i won't fuck it up if you lads do accept me.

My last app was BAD, i've saw my errors and applied again, i'm only applying because its boring to play the same old marine and the same old xeno again and again, i want to make rounds way more interesting.

I know i have probably a lot of notes with me, but who doesn't? you can trust me, i won't fuck this up.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by forwardslashN » 17 Sep 2016, 11:22

lucashunter608 wrote: I know i have probably a lot of notes with me, but who doesn't?
The uh...majority of the people who get accepted have very few notes, and generally no previous bans. Thanks for clarifying about that particular hunt, it's something I wasn't aware of.
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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by lucashunter608 » 17 Sep 2016, 12:18

forwardslashN wrote: The uh...majority of the people who get accepted have very few notes, and generally no previous bans. Thanks for clarifying about that particular hunt, it's something I wasn't aware of.
Well then, hopefully my notes aren't that big of a deal.

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Re: Setg'in Thwei (Deadly Blood) (Blooded)

Post by Feweh » 19 Sep 2016, 18:44

This is denied, as the player has shown they dont understand predator mechanics and lore.

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