Darius Ico's Commander Application

[Westhybrid]

Byond ID: WestHybrid

Player name you use the most: Darius Ico

• http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=12818 | Commander Re-Application [Denied for applying during three month waiting period]
• http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.p ... 679#p38679 | Commander Application [Accepted]
• http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=10226 | Moderator Application [Accepted]

Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?

Yes.

Why should you be whitelisted?

It would be easy to refer to the past two Commander Applications, one of which was accepted and the other which was denied on a clerical error, as to the reasons why I would do well in the role of Commander. It would be easier to point out that I wasn't removed from the Commander Whitelist for doing something wrong as a Commander; I was removed from the Whitelist due to mistakes made as an Admin. It is easiest to point out that I have played this role before, for over a year, was accepted once before for my conduct as a Commander, and have played the role well for many to see.

I'm gonna continue to give you the Commander you likely need. If Marines hate that Command is in a never-ending circle jerk up in the CIC while they're getting murdered down in Big Red, I'm gonna be the one not just listening in on every channel but actually delegating. I've proven time and time again I can coordinate squads and actually talk to the people on the ground instead of playing distant. I'll actually roleplay with marines on the ground instead of only the on-board crew.

Better than that, if you're looking for those sweet RP, I'm playing a CO that could actually exist. I enjoy and tolerate the gung ho, cursing left and right during brief, probably thirteen years old CO just as much as the next guy, but if you're looking for someone who's actually going to play the role with a degree of realism, look no further. I'll offer a consistent, believable Commander who avoids the meta-game and reacts to situations on the ground organically and uniquely each time. I know rounds drag on and can become repetitive, and so to the best of my ability, I'll try to shake things up a bit each time.

And finally, just an appeal to reason: I shouldn't have been removed in the first place. I played this role very well and while I failed in my duties as an Admin for a brief moment, I never failed as a member of the community, and the events of my removal didn't correlate to the responsibilities of the CO Whitelist. I have gone through the proper channels, waited quietly and patiently, and with the permission of the Staff and the confidence of the community after this vote, I would like to play Commander again.

Thank you.

[TehSpoderman]

Well I can obviously tell you are not a baldie. +1 from me. Don't fek up fam.

[Challenger]

What are you going to do to avoid making the mistakes that got you dewhitelisted?

[Symbiosis]

Haven't seen you much in game... so let's try a good ole question.

The RO has dictated that squads will line up in a specific order for attachments; Alpha first, Bravo, Charlie, Delta. He has his reasons, and frankly, attachments are a privilege anyways.

Unfortunately Delta has begun rioting, and they've beaten an MP and stripped him in the process. They demand the RO be demoted, and Charlie is in the process of backing up Delta, claiming the MP attacked the Delta SL with a harm baton for speaking out against the RO.

The CL looks to you, narrowing his eyes.. he tells you the W-Y is watching... fix the situation.

What do you do?

[TehSpoderman]

Well since Challenger isnt asking it, can you write a briefing to show your literacy or something?

[Youbar]

What are you going to do to avoid making the mistakes that got you dewhitelisted?

It would be easier to point out that I wasn't removed from the Commander Whitelist for doing something wrong as a Commander;I was removed from the Whitelist due to mistakes made as an Admin.

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And finally, just an appeal to reason: I shouldn't have been removed in the first place. I played this role very well and while I failed in my duties as an Admin for a brief moment, I never failed as a member of the community, and the events of my removal didn't correlate to the responsibilities of the CO Whitelist.

[Westhybrid]

What are you going to do to avoid making the mistakes that got you dewhitelisted?

I won't spawn a Predator in basketball shorts holding a basketball in one hand and spaghetti and meatballs in the other.

But to answer your question seriously, I know full and well the cost of shenanigans on CM, and I have zero intentions of abusing the limited amount of IC power the Commander role has. I'm not and have never been the guy to order wholesale executions for marines who look at me funny, and I've always hated the kind of CO that tells MP's to go hunt down a Squad Leader because he went to Point A instead of Point B. I'm just there to get the job done.

Less seriously but still answering your question, unless someone were to reinstate my Admin verbs and put a lot of Wild Turkey bourbon in my system, its highly unlikely that at this point in the game I'm able to recreate the circumstances that lost me my whitelist position. If any Admins with the spawn verbs are looking to recreate my experiment, the steps are pretty straightforward.

[Challenger]

If you got dewhitelisted from CO for reasons entirely unrelated to being a CO why are you trying to get whitelisted again instead of directly appealing it to the staff?

I'm not a fan of the onesided, no witnesses, staff drama story here so I'll just abstain.

[Westhybrid]

Haven't seen you much in game... so let's try a good ole question.

The RO has dictated that squads will line up in a specific order for attachments; Alpha first, Bravo, Charlie, Delta. He has his reasons, and frankly, attachments are a privilege anyways.

Unfortunately Delta has begun rioting, and they've beaten an MP and stripped him in the process. They demand the RO be demoted, and Charlie is in the process of backing up Delta, claiming the MP attacked the Delta SL with a harm baton for speaking out against the RO.

The CL looks to you, narrowing his eyes.. he tells you the W-Y is watching... fix the situation.

What do you do?

The only thing you can do is defuse the situation to the best of your ability. Defusing the situation and keeping players in the game while keeping the game moving is the priority.

Because I'm walking into the situation without all the facts (based on what you've given me), I have to make assumptions. In my experience, its easier for someone to join as an MP and start harmbatoning people for crossing the street than it is for a Squad Leader to organize a riot. If an MP beat down the Delta Squad Leader for just saying shit, I'd have to confer with the marines that the MP was in the wrong and shouldn't have done what they did. I also have zero reason to believe, statistically, that an entire second squad (Charlie) would back Delta up if the MP wasn't in the wrong; they can't all be lying.

Still, a public beatdown on the MP is bad for business, and the poor guy is going to get blood on the floor, so that has to stop. I'd wrangle up the other MPs, tell one of them to get Officer Harmbaton to the medbay, and the others stay at Cargo in case things continue to go awry. The WO is going to have to talk to the beaten down Officer about his conduct. He shouldn't be a problem for the rest of the round if most of the marines are planetside and he's up top twiddling his dumb thumbs.

Now, the marines and their attachments. My opinion on attachments is that they're superficial bullshit. They're so superficial that it couldn't matter less what order squads assemble to get them. While I understand the RO had his reasons, my order supersedes his own, and he needs to just let people line up at random to get their shit, so they can take a seat, and go fight the enemy in a decent timetable. If marines are still rowdy and want the RO's head, I'll tell them they just need to accept the fact that the RO is still going to do his job, get content that they're getting their attachment, and be on their way. The RO has to accept he answers to me. Finally, if the numbers in cargo are low, I'll help out by running the second line to keep things moving along. MPs will stay there to deter any further violence.

It is not easy being everyone's friend, but it is the fastest way to keep the game moving and to keep the players playing. Exert a little force when you need it, but mostly appeal to the driving force in every marine's head, which is to just move the fuck along.

[TehSpoderman]

If you got dewhitelisted from CO for reasons entirely unrelated to being a CO why are you trying to get whitelisted again instead of directly appealing it to the staff?

I'm not a fan of the onesided, no witnesses, staff drama story here so I'll just abstain.

He did appeal it to the staff. He did it through a ban appeal and Apop said the only way to be whitelisted again is to apply again.

[Challenger]

I don't see any information regarding that ban appeal in the OP.

[Westhybrid]

If you got dewhitelisted from CO for reasons entirely unrelated to being a CO why are you trying to get whitelisted again instead of directly appealing it to the staff?

I'm not a fan of the onesided, no witnesses, staff drama story here so I'll just abstain.

I did appeal to Apophis in separate PMs that I'll be happy to share here if you want. He didn't remember that he had my whitelist access stripped when I was removed as an Admin when I asked him about it. I got fired at the end of March and came back a month later to find CO was slashed out for me, so I PM'd him about it if it was an error, it wasn't. After getting all the information and making my case to him personally, he said no. I tried making a ban appeal for CO with the same information, that ban appeal was swiftly answered and taken off the appeals section, and I'll try to link that as well if you want it. I then made a re-application to be a commander in May, but Apophis forgot to mark my name or make it clear that you have to wait three months to re-apply after you've already been removed. I was able to re-apply legally on June 24th of this year.

I'm not looking to put anyone on the spot. I'm not looking to stir the pot or to make a defense for what I did beyond that my removal made little sense to me or others I brought this information to. I have jumped through several hoops without any rhyme or reason and I'm doing exactly what I was told to do. So here I am.

If you want witnesses to the PMs, that's Apophis. If you want witnesses of the events that had me removed as an Admin, you can refer to Kavlo or Feweh who were both present. Everything else can be found here on the forum.

I would just like to play CO again. I'm willing to set aside the possibility I'm being fucked with and go through the proper channels if it gets me back to playing CO.




EDIT: http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12795

That's the link to the prior ban appeal where I was told this was not the proper way to go about it, then I re-applied here in May.

I was not given an opportunity to reply to Feweh or Apop on that thread; it was locked and moved immediately after Apophis's response. So I figured I just had to move along and do what they said to do next.

[Westhybrid]

Well since Challenger isnt asking it, can you write a briefing to show your literacy or something?

I usually write them in real time. I stated it before, but a lot of my briefings and interactions in game are entirely organic. If you're looking for literacy, though, this is how a heftier brief would appear. It has a little more fluff to it.

"Alright, find your seats and settle down. We'll make this go as quickly as possible on our end, remain in your seats and keep chatter to a minimum so we can make that happen."

"As of 1200, High Command has activated the crew of the Almayer and all available infantry to assess and rectify the causes of the distress signal being broadcasted on all frequencies. High Command's attempt to de-scramble the message has manage to at least determine this distress signal is coming from Lazarus Landing, classified as a Wey-Yu mining and research facility on LV-624."

"For those of you who don't know or don't care where we are at any given time, LV-624 is in our neck of space, and as such, High Command wants our boots on the ground. Initial scans show that their power grid is either damaged or depleted, and with the exception of the distress beacon, none of their groundside comms are strong enough to get a response. We don't know who is alive or what the problem is. UPP could be involved but everything is speculation. What we are certain of beyond a doubt is that they need our help."

"Again, you've been activated to assess and rectify. You're not granted permission to discharge your weapons until you can get a visual or verbal confirmation that enemy combatants are on that planet. Manifests show that there are dozens of civilian colonists, and we don't want any of them taking fire during the operation. Get information, get confirmations, and listen to your Squad Actuals and Overwatch for further instructions."

"If you have any questions you can direct them to myself or the Lieutenant Commander on your squad comms, we'll be listening. Your squad directives should be uploaded within the minute, and Pilots are on standby to deploy you. Keep focused, stick together, get the job done, and we will bring you home. Dismissed."

Obviously the brief will have actual squad assignments, but anything I try to do now would equate to "Alpha, you're doing this, Bravo, you're doing that," et cetera.

[Challenger]

I sure am a fan of having to wait until the 12th post in a thread for someone to properly explain the circumstances behind their dewhitelisting with links and references, instead of just detailing their own potentially biased version of the events.

I'd be giving this a -1 for making me investigate more than I should have but you look like an alright lad with a stellar aptitude for CO so catch my +1. I hope you don't get docked for not including the ban appeal link in your OP, though.

[Rain7x]

+1, West is a great player and admin, definitely one of the better players on the server

[Enceri]

+1, I've had good experiences with Darius Ico in Command roles, and even if we don't always win, he makes it fun.

[NoahKirchner]

You're not bald, and even though you banned me from your twitch livestream once, I still think you are capable of not SSDing at roundstart or giving meme orders over the command announcements.

[Westhybrid]

You're not bald, and even though you banned me from your twitch livestream once, I still think you are capable of not SSDing at roundstart or giving meme orders over the command announcements.

If you're still banned from it I can probably fix that.

[NoahKirchner]

If you're still banned from it I can probably fix that.

I think it was only for a week and I hardly use twitch but I appreciate the offer.

[Chuckachu]

I'm willing to give you another go at this very fun but stressfull position. You took a step back and didn't lash out in anger and waited till you were mentally connected to even try to come back and start over as just a player. I respect that alot, I have trouble doing that myself so big kudos there. If Apop is willing to let you be back to play at all after upsetting him and he directed you to go through normal channels then I say welcome back. Do us proud and don't be a afraid to go off script! And don't forget that CO's can reassign folks ID cards.

+1

[apophis775]

He was removed, because it's our standard procedure to strip all whitelist from staff who are removed for disciplinary reasons, if they received that whitelist while on staff.

This will probably get accepted unless a boatload of people suddenly vote no.

I will also add that I'm not a fan of being name-dropped so many times as the person who removed you when it was a group decision by headstaff.

I'm just the person you PMed when you found out you had been removed.

And again, as far as "shouldn't have been removed in the first place". You admin-abused shortly after giving your retirement post. As I've explained, staff viewed this as a "fuck-you" and it went from "retirement" to "fired". It's in the past, and you need to accept there was no conspiracy or malice behind removing you, it was a direct consequence of your actions. Stop trying to push it off onto others.

[jusa297]

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[TehSpoderman]

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he used to be an adminnu

[Westhybrid]

He was removed, because it's our standard procedure to strip all whitelist from staff who are removed for disciplinary reasons, if they received that whitelist while on staff.

This will probably get accepted unless a boatload of people suddenly vote no.

I will also add that I'm not a fan of being name-dropped so many times as the person who removed you when it was a group decision by headstaff.

I'm just the person you PMed when you found out you had been removed.

And again, as far as "shouldn't have been removed in the first place". You admin-abused shortly after giving your retirement post. As I've explained, staff viewed this as a "fuck-you" and it went from "retirement" to "fired". It's in the past, and you need to accept there was no conspiracy or malice behind removing you, it was a direct consequence of your actions. Stop trying to push it off onto others.

I kept your name out of it until someone asked. It's not name dropping, your name was only used where it was relevant and factual. I had no intention of bringing you or any other Heads into conversation until Challenger brought it up.

I did take responsibility for the consequences of my actions. I spawned a basketball playing predator at the end of the round. It got me fired, and it got me here. I'm not here to debate that. I'm just here to play the game you made.

You have a vote like anyone else, and more than that, Heads have the authority to deny any CO apps at their discretion. So you do what you have to do. I'm not here to fight about it anymore.

[apophis775]

Approved.