Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

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Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Asmodius » 09 Aug 2018, 15:51

So, you wanna' roll survivor? Well, here's your guide, from me personally. Your rules on what you can do and what you can't do.

So, to start off, don't do anything, including killing Xenos, this cripples the hive, therefore leading to Marine victories. What you can do within staff favor is hang a sign around your neck that says I'm sorry, i.e.:
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Next, you don't want to shoot yourself, this denies the hive a larva. What you can do however, is disposal your gun, or leave it on the ground next to you, unloaded, chamber emptied and on safety, so it won't hurt anyone. Remember, guns are dangerous. You want to try to separate yourself from the other survivors, so it doesn't seem as if you're making an attempt to live. In fact, handcuff the other survivors so it makes it easier for the Hive to take them back. They don't want hosts that might be unruly and punching that Young Runner's chitin in. That's violent.

If you want to be a good survivor, instead of a neutral one that just gives yourself up: gather all of the wildlife you can and get them to one spot, this makes it easier for the Xenomorphs to devour them and bring them back to the hive for larger population numbers.

This is a stretch here but, make a stun-prod and try to disable the other survivors, this way, the Xenomorphs don't even have to run to catch their prey, they just lie on the ground waiting, brilliant!

If anyone has any suggestions on how to play survivor better, please, throw them in the thread here for reading. And remember, everyone:
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by z a n e b o t » 09 Aug 2018, 15:54

yeah ok +1

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by RedsPro » 09 Aug 2018, 15:56

You got banned for killing a monkey as a survivor? Survivors cant meta. What the fuck. They literally know all the information. Actual state of CM lads.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Slduggy » 09 Aug 2018, 15:57

Imagine "crippling the hive" being a bannable offense. Like that's ridiculous. Does that mean pulling up pipes on prison is greifing xenos?
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by FracturedAntler » 09 Aug 2018, 15:59

Ha, jokes on you, I killed two monkeys once and I didn't even get banned.

But really, it's a dumb rule. Their whole role is to help the marines meta, why shouldn't they know this information?

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Asmodius » 09 Aug 2018, 16:04

You are fully aware of the xenomorph threat and are able to use this knowledge as you see fit.

You watched as a larva burst from the chest of your friend, {name}. You tried to capture the alien thing, but it escaped through the ventilation.

{name} was attacked by a facehugging alien, which impregnated them with an alien lifeform. {name}'s chest exploded in gore as some creature escaped.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Survivor » 09 Aug 2018, 16:07

That ban is ridiculous, man.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Arbs » 09 Aug 2018, 16:10

This is so sad and funny at the same time.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Ratpack » 09 Aug 2018, 16:11

Yeah the whole no kill primate rule is kinda lame.

In all honesty, our job, as survivors, is to either
A. Aid the marines before we are rescued by killing as many Xenos as possible while we wait for rescue, and after we are rescued give them all the information they need to know, IE their ability to use vents, the different types of Xenos that they have avalible, and what the facehuggers do.
B. Go apeshit on the marines and act like psychopath, trying to inflict as much damage on them before being captured/killed.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Asmodius » 09 Aug 2018, 16:21

Ratpack wrote:
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Yeah the whole no kill primate rule is kinda lame.

In all honesty, our job, as survivors, is to either
A. Aid the marines before we are rescued by killing as many Xenos as possible while we wait for rescue, and after we are rescued give them all the information they need to know, IE their ability to use vents, the different types of Xenos that they have avalible, and what the facehuggers do.
B. Go apeshit on the marines and act like psychopath, trying to inflict as much damage on them before being captured/killed.
no, you cant kill xenos, that cripples the hive.

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Torrentia » 09 Aug 2018, 16:27

Man 24 HOURS for KILLING A MONKEY? I can't think of any context where this makes sense. What was the justification for this ban?
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Asmodius » 09 Aug 2018, 16:28

Torrentia wrote:
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Man 24 HOURS for KILLING A MONKEY? I can't think of any context where this makes sense. What was the justification for this ban?
it was in my way and awan was the queen therefore i crippled the hive, and it wasnt his inability to lead that made the xenos lose
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Torrentia » 09 Aug 2018, 16:34

Wait a moderator was the queen? Please tell me he wasn't the one who banned you. Either way that's a HUGE conflict of interest, and frankly someone higher up the chain should take a look at this.

A few more questions: was the queen deadminned? Is this a written rule? Is killing xenos, larva, or dying as a survivor also a bannable offense since it could "hurt the hive"?
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 09 Aug 2018, 16:37

Torrentia wrote:
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Wait a moderator was the queen? Please tell me he wasn't the one who banned you. Either way that's a HUGE conflict of interest, and frankly someone higher up the chain should take a look at this.
Actually the moderator did the right thing and did a legtimate ahelp. I began to investigate it, but Thor logged off before I could talk to him, and then I had an emergency IRL to respond to so another moderator/admins took over.

Also I'm pretty sure it was a farwa and not a monkey.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Sulaboy » 09 Aug 2018, 16:37

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Torrentia » 09 Aug 2018, 16:41

So I assume it wasn't the staff queen who did the ban.

Also farwas and monkeys are mechanically the same so I don't see any reason to reply to this thread just to point that out.

My question is still: is it against the rules to kill a monkey?

Edit: Julio deleted his reply about monkey vs. farwa after I had written this.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Surrealistik » 09 Aug 2018, 16:44

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 09 Aug 2018, 16:46

Torrentia wrote:
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Edit: Julio deleted his reply about monkey vs. farwa after I had written this.
I combined everything into one post because it was a double post.
But no the mod who reported it did not issue the ban, the mod did what any other player would do and reported it with an ahelp.
I originally investigated it saw a farwa died and went to talk to thor but he logged, and I had to go so I gave it over to another mod and an admin took over I believe.

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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by KingPhilipIII » 09 Aug 2018, 16:48

I personally think it was less the monkey killing itself and more of an excuse to get him for things he's already done.

Thor, I have nothing against you in general, but I think it's shitty how you grab a gun as quickly as possible and then rush the hive to kill larva/sleeping xenos that think they're safe. Literally on Prison you rushed to civilian residences armed with a shotgun hoping to kill defenseless larva before being captured. It's just kinda shitty, and it's not good roleplay in any capacity because a person that survived an infestation of horrific aliens would not blindly rush into the heart of these horrific aliens in hopes of slaughtering them. That's not the act of a person trying to survive the apocalypse but someone who knows he's playing a game and acting accordingly.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Torrentia » 09 Aug 2018, 16:51

Third time asking this question in this thread: is it against the rules to kill a monkey?
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Slduggy » 09 Aug 2018, 16:52

Torrentia wrote:
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Third time asking this question in this thread: is it against the rules to kill a monkey?
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Asmodius » 09 Aug 2018, 16:55

KingPhilipIII wrote:
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So, my target wasn't the larva, but, instead, the Queen. That doesn't make it any less shitty what I did. I've said several times that my mission is to kill the Queen and cripple the hive. As a survivor, it's priority to grab a gun as fast as you can, the second part, rushing the hive, that's where it becomes iffy.

The larva were there but the queen wasn't, she had spawned in a different spot, which lead me to becoming a baby-killer. Well, I failed to kill any larva due to them all evolving on my contact with them and you can't pointblank larva apparently. So, that's a thing.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Slduggy » 09 Aug 2018, 16:57

KingPhilipIII wrote:
09 Aug 2018, 16:48
I personally think it was less the monkey killing itself and more of an excuse to get him for things he's already done.

Thor, I have nothing against you in general, but I think it's shitty how you grab a gun as quickly as possible and then rush the hive to kill larva/sleeping xenos that think they're safe. Literally on Prison you rushed to civilian residences armed with a shotgun hoping to kill defenseless larva before being captured. It's just kinda shitty, and it's not good roleplay in any capacity because a person that survived an infestation of horrific aliens would not blindly rush into the heart of these horrific aliens in hopes of slaughtering them. That's not the act of a person trying to survive the apocalypse but someone who knows he's playing a game and acting accordingly.
So retro-active punishment is now a thing for CM? That doesn't sound right.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Sleepy Retard » 09 Aug 2018, 16:58

Unbiased PoV: In the past, monkey killing was not allowed since it disrupted the balance of the game, how that holds up today I'm not entirely sure. Assuming this rule is still in effect, this was a legitimate ban if we go by the book.

Besides that, it's silly to me.
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Re: Survivor Rules: Thor's trial

Post by Lumdor » 09 Aug 2018, 16:59

Torrentia wrote:
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Third time asking this question in this thread: is it against the rules to kill a monkey?
From the ruling we had that killing monkies can un-balance the round for xenos, yes it goes against lore and such, but game-balance is the main thing here.

If survivors go around killing all the wildlife then that will put the xenos had a huge disadvantage.
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