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Post by Nesence » 31 Dec 2017, 23:13

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Colonial Marines Character:Carmen 'Missy' Wile

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On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
On average 30 hours Monday-Friday, with widely varying times on week ends.

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
I do not.

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
I began playing in 2015 I fear i have not.

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
None, I used to play goon station, however since then I have fully transitioned to CM.

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made: I have made none.

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
I am not Currently Staff on any other server.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
No I have not.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Not that I can recall.

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
I am not, However I have used what i expect to be similar programs in the past, and feel that i can become proficient in Slack.

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
As the situation has been handled ICly I would await the MPs placing the offending player in the brig then contact them to gather their explanation, after receiving their explanation I would make a note of the incident and be sure to note down their explanation.

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
Though this is no longer a situation likely to take place, I would make an announcement of the breach as possible and inform the admins as necessary should the breach be irreparable.

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
I would contact them linking the Marine quick start guide and suggesting that they request any additional aid from either one of the mentors or if none are available me.

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
I would do my best to be accommodating as i would assume them to be upset about a matter, if they persist in their abrasive behavior I would inform any admin+ staff member the matter would be forwarded to (should the forwarding be necessary) of their conduct and perhaps make a note of their behavior.

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
I would link them to the relevant rules and that though they may have used the name for quite some time it is still in violation of the rules and must be changed and that they have now been informed.

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
Contact them informing them that the weapons are not permitted to ensure they are aware of the situation, other than that leave the matter up to MP enforcement.

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Though this is now impossible with the introduction of the skill system, I would inform them that surgery is to be preformed on the ship, unless a doctor chooses to be present at the FOB, and to finish the current surgery then to direct those in need to the dropships.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
I would first and foremost take note of the composition and ages of the alien team. If the aliens consist of an ancient empress 2 elite T3s and a mature hunter i would contact the queen and inform them that they should attack the ship as they are a small but powerful force. On the other hand however if the aliens consist of a newly evolved queen and a trio of teir one and twos, I would contact the current commanding offcier and inform them that the xenos are weak and should be finished off.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
I would inform them that Such action would not be considered end of the round grief as the Iron bears (or UPP nowadays) are hostile to the USCM and therefore it would not be uncharacteristic to shoot at them even when other threats have been resolved.

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
I would notify the MPs of the mad marine, thus ensuring that they have something to do, assuming that they have not already been made aware via in game methods and then Slack message an admin with the details to seek a ban as necessary.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
I would notify them that that is not a sufficient reason to utilize deadly force, and that i am required to send the matter up the chain. I would then check the FF logs and screen shot the matter in question, then Slack message anadmin with the pertinent evidence.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
I would Slack message for Admin+ staff assuming that no other staff members have already done so.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
This would be largely dependent on the details of the comments in question, if they are being directed at person who has ahelped in such a way to directly harass them I would view that as a violation of rule 1. If however, upon reviewing the comments made I find that they are intended as jokes and that most people seem accepting of the situation I would inform the ahelper that racist comments are not in direct violation of any server rules, and that if they feel their character would be ICly offended by the comments that have been made that the corporate liaison is able to contact Human Resources, who's authority the matter would fall under.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Assuming that the matter of the dead marines is not being dealt with ICly i would announce the situation, then slack message an admin to proceed with the banning process and aheals as might be necessary should IC revival fail or be unavailable.

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
I would contact them and inquire why they felt the need to do this, if a reasonable answer is provided, such as not being aware of where the fighting was taking place, or making a mistake. That and taking into account what I have seen as an observer I would make a judgement call, should i find that it was simply a suicide to assist the marines I would slack message an admin regarding the matter and including screenshots of the matter as best as possible while suggesting a job ban.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
I would contact them informing them of the act like a xenomorph rule, and if it has been a consistent matter I would make a note as well, if i find the player has a history of doing so I would Slack message an admin the with relevant information regarding a temporary ban as per the rules.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
I would inform the Ahelper that the semantics used are quite irrelevant to the rules. Though I would agree it is failRP the exact word choice of players is really of no consequence.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
I would message them informing them of the anti meta gaming rules and suggesting that they retract their statement ICly by stating that as a planet distant from earth it would be logical to assume that there would be 'xenomorphic' fauna (given that the in universe name for the xenomorph is xenomorph XX121 it is presumably an existing naming convention).

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
I would inform him of the rules regarding escalation of violence and that if in future they intend to act in such self serving ways in character to perhaps consider non-lethal methods in the future.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
I would slack message them regarding the matter. If incorrect enforcement continues I would ultimately utilize the staff report function to ensure that the matter is dealt with via the proper channels.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
I would first slack message them inquiring as to why it is taking place if no sufficient answer is provided I would utilize the staff report function.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
This is entirely irrelevant to me, people say stupid things on the internet all the time and this would be neither different nor more serious. If any complaints are made, I would not see myself doing much more than adding a note for extremely childish behavior.

Any additional information you'd like to add?
I have been playing CM on and off for close to three years now, and have thoroughly enjoyed my time with it. If I should be accepted as a moderator I quite like to preserve that enjoyment for as many others as possible.

Thank you for consideration,
Nesence

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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by NGGJamie » 01 Jan 2018, 06:10

Giving your application a glance-through it doesn't seem like you're aware Mods don't need an Admin to place a ban, though most of your answers aren't too shabby. Mods can place bans as low as 3 hours or as high as 7 days(Note we have a standard ban escalation policy of 3 hours/24 hours/3 days/7 days depending mostly on the player's history unless they do something really bad. The only bans that need to be "requested" are permabans, which Apop/Feweh approve/apply. Mods are also able to Jobban/Roleban, which is always permanent until appealed.

I might recommend placing a reply with updated answers given that knowledge, and more mention of player's notes. Without being thorough, here's a few hints for answers that stuck out to me.

17. Nothing wrong with calling a dropship what it is, fluffy terms are nice but optional.

19. Your answer here is a bit over-simplified for a nuanced situation like this.

20/20a. Staff don't staff report each other, check out our hierarchy.

Those aren't the only ones that need tweaks, but overall your answers are good if lacking specifics on exactly what sort of ban you might place, with a little more detail I'd say they'd be great. I can understand some unfamiliarity on your part considering you only have 3 notes, and no bans on your CKey.
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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by NescauComToddy » 01 Jan 2018, 14:59

Taking a look at some of your answers, I realize that there is a lack of detail in most of them, and I noticed that you forgot to include basic protocols in it, such as applying notes to each infraction a player makes and analyzing them to determine the weight of the ban that a player would receive. As Jamie said, a moderator does not depend on an admin, enabling them to apply a ban from just three hours to seven days. However, keep in mind that if you are accepted, you can resolve your doubts with moderators who have successfully completed the trial period, admins and members of the head-staff, especially the head of your department, who would be Jerk.

3. Your response was adequate, but remember that you must first direct a mentor to the new player if one is available.

6. It is not necessary to send a PM to the player to warn him that he is running the risk of being apprehended by MPs when carrying a weapon on green alert.

8. You added unnecessary details to this answer. You do not need to check the xenos composition, just send a subtle message to the commander asking him to speed up the operation.

Even after what Jamie said, there are several answers that are lacking in detail, that is, incomplete. A larger example would be 1, 2, 19. Your activity in the forum is also very low, especially for one who says they have been active since 2015.

As already said, it would be great if you could review your answers with the staff's basic protocols in mind, as well as correct those quoted by Jamie.
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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Tharinoma » 03 Jan 2018, 23:11

Hello Nesence,

I like your application. It is well worded.
It also reveals, however, that there are important things you do not know, things that any long time player a tiny bit active on the forums should know. Like moderators being able to ban, how long we usually ban for, jobbans, permabans.


Here's a review of your answers.
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Your low forum activity doesn't play in your favor. Being active both on in game, on slack and the forums is required for moderators, so you'll have to work on that.
Should your answers to my questions above be satisfactory, I will probably support you being trial'ed. Most of your problems look like they would be easily fixed by a trial period, and I like your mindset.
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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Solarmare » 04 Jan 2018, 20:52

I want clarification from you on some things.
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You don't seem to understand that moderators are essentially the police of this server dealing with the banning ourselves, so I'm not sure you understand what you're signing up to do as a moderator.

With that in mind is this something you want to continue with, which will need an answer to the questions raised so far about your application to meet what we expect a moderator to do?
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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Jerkface00 » 07 Jan 2018, 21:27

Some concerns with how you would go about processing the situations in the questions posed. Most importantly that you as a moderator have the power, and the authority, to actually handle those situations yourself.

Moderators are the servers "police force" for making sure the rules of the game are followed over the round. Admins are there to assist the moderators and provide the voice of more experienced staff if needed (among their many other roles). Most, of the cases we provide in this application don't require the attention of an admin specifically because we want to know how you as the applicant would resolve things.

With that in mind, I'm hoping to leave this undecided a little while longer to see how you reply to the comments about your answers raised already, and how you might change any other answers in the original application.

Looking forward to hearing back from you,
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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Snypehunter007 » 08 Jan 2018, 12:31

Nesence wrote:
31 Dec 2017, 23:13
7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Though this is now impossible with the introduction of the skill system, I would inform them that surgery is to be preformed on the ship, unless a doctor chooses to be present at the FOB, and to finish the current surgery then to direct those in need to the dropships.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Assuming that the matter of the dead marines is not being dealt with ICly i would announce the situation, then slack message an admin to proceed with the banning process and aheals as might be necessary should IC revival fail or be unavailable.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
I would contact them informing them of the act like a xenomorph rule, and if it has been a consistent matter I would make a note as well, if i find the player has a history of doing so I would Slack message an admin the with relevant information regarding a temporary ban as per the rules.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
I would inform him of the rules regarding escalation of violence and that if in future they intend to act in such self serving ways in character to perhaps consider non-lethal methods in the future.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
I would slack message them regarding the matter. If incorrect enforcement continues I would ultimately utilize the staff report function to ensure that the matter is dealt with via the proper channels.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
I would first slack message them inquiring as to why it is taking place if no sufficient answer is provided I would utilize the staff report function.
Just a critique of some of your answers:

7.) Your reasoning for telling the medic to stop the surgery isn't quite correct. They should stop doing surgery because as a medic, they wouldn't know how to do it, not because "it has to be done on the ship". They aren't allowed to finish the surgery, either.

14.) Since it is griefing, all marines injured by the griefer are to be ahealed. After that, you would proceed to check the notes of the palyer and apply an appropriate ban. You wouldn't need to ping a admin on slack unless you were unsure on something.

16.) If it has been an on-going problem (as in it has happened more the once recently), the player would be subject to a xeno jobban.

19.) The marine who killed the other marine to take a spot on the escape pod is valid in this case, it is one of our rare instances where suddenly killing another marine would be allowed.

20.) This answer isn't exactly "wrong" but it isn't quite right. You can message other staff in-game and talk to them there. For between-staff disagreements, you would bring it up to your Senior, in this case (if you were a moderator), you would bring it up to Jerkface00 the Senior Moderator.

20a.) Again, you would bring it up to your Senior, not use the "Report Staff" function.

This is just a glance-over of your application and there might have been things I missed, but based on some of things you posted here (and I realize that some of it you couldn't know, so I'm excluding things like that) I'm going to have to give this a:

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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Nesence » 08 Jan 2018, 14:33

Thank You all for your critique, I shall do my best to address your concerns and questions as best I can.
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In regards to my low forum activity, I'm not normally a very vocal person, online or in person, and generally don't speak out much when I don't have anything meaningful to say. To the point of having to set myself a deadline to put in my initial application by the end of 2017 and having had to physically lock myself into a room to finish this reply rather than let both slip into the 'ill do it later' abyss. Outside of that explanation all I can say is that I do intend to make a conscious effort to be more active on this forum.

In Regards to my lack of understanding in regards to the details of the powers entrusted to a moderator I can only say that i failed to do the proper research into the matter, and that I've really never had much cause to learn their powers due to a general lack of interaction. I feel that thanks to your quite helpful replies, and taking the time to properly read up on the matter, I do feel I have a better, though far from perfect grasp on the matter.

Thank you for your criticism and consideration,
Nesence

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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by slc97 » 13 Jan 2018, 11:12

We've had people on staff who are not very vocal and have low forum activity, but my concern is that your description of yourself would also lead into low slack activity. Being a mod is about more than being on the server and policing it. It's about being a part of the team by regularly speaking in slack, holding your fellow team members accountable for their actions, and being available in the discord and forums to monitor and report any issues to Admin+ ranks.

Right now, I'm going to have to say -1. I don't dislike you, but I'm not 100 percent sure that you're ready for staff work. Maybe you could join up as a mentor and test the waters and get a feel for how we operate, but that's still a hard maybe from me, and would take Jamie's input overall.

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Re: Nesence-Moderator

Post by Jerkface00 » 15 Jan 2018, 20:55

This application has been up for longer then I would normally let them sit. I was undecided on whether I was going to pass or deny this application. I was concerned with what appeared to be a basic lack of understanding on what the position's responsibilities detailed. I figured if I could watch you play a round or two I could get a feel on how much of a grasp on the game you had.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to spot you in game to watch you, and this application has been open for much longer then I'd care to let it sit without a resolution.
So my doubts stand and I've got to deny your application at this time.

Feel free to apply again in a month. I'd suggest being as active as you can and have a presence on the forums and/or discord.
Thanks for your willingness to help out.
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