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Post by MauroVega » 21 Feb 2018, 17:15

Byond ID:
MauroVega

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Natalia Quiroga

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Male

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ART (Argentina Time) UTC/GMT -3 hours

On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
6 to 10

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
Yes

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
A few weeks before the split from new eden

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
Halo,maybe persistance and FTL

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=3883&hilit=MauroVega+App
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Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
Nowhere

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
Once for a misunderstanding with a welder tank in engineering

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Nope

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
Yes

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.

Heal the person he shot if he didn't fire lethals back,question the person,if he has no notes but has no clear intention of being a good player give him a day ban with a "very nice" note,if they just did it cause they are new,give him a 6 hour ban,a link to the rules and a note along

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.

I think this can't happen now,fix the breach,check if it was acid and or C4 and start checking the notes of said person,if they have previous notes and have been warned about the rules,give them a 2 or 3 day ban depending on their notes,if it was first offence just a day ban with a link to the rules

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.

If there is a mentor,direct them to them,if there is none and i'm aghosted at this point,i would follow them around and show them the ropes,if they are on a command position (XO,CMP,SO) give them some tips on how to handle the squads and how to use the overwatch console,if they are a marine role,simply the basics of line of fires to try to avoid any FF incidents

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.

Start checking his notes while telling him to calm down and not disrecpect the staff,if he continues to harras with Ahelps the next round,mute from Ahelps and add a note about hostile/toxic behavior

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.

Tell them that ignorance is not an excuse and that he was warned about the name,if they continue to use the name and have no notes,a 1 hour ban along with a link to the rules,if they have past notes a 3 hour ban

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.

Start checking his notes for any similar scenarios,if he was ordered by the SO to deploy to assist with the FOB,then let him move along,if he has no particular reason,warn him verbally and add a note,if he continues and has no notes,issue a 1 hour ban with a link to the rules,if they have notes then a 3 hour ban

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.

Tell him that the lack of doctors is not an excuse to metagame,tell him to seal the marine and send him up,if he continues despite warnings,issue a 3 hour ban about the issue along with a note,if he has no notes,then a 1 hour with a link to the rules

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?

Follow the chain and see who the Aco is,tell them about the current problem and encourage them to push along the lines of making one final push/going for all or nothing either via SM or an ARES//high command announcement

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
Tell him combat betwen antags at round end,such as Marines VS Bears (UPP) or CLF is allowed

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.

sleep him,warn him about his behavior and add a note,if he keeps doing it despite warnings ban him for 3 hours and link him to the notes,leave him a note of being un co-operative

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.

Check his notes,if he has no notes,warn him about the proper escalation and link him the rules along with a note for further incidents,if he has notes give him a 6 hours for the escalation

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.

Head to slack and get a higher up

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.

Tell them minor slurs are allowed,Aghost and LOOC in the area where the 9 players are to tone it down and keep it minimal,note the 9 about the slurs for further incidents

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.

Look for his Ckey in the player panel,apply a 7 day ban and prepare to file a perma,Aheal the wounded and get someone to cryo his body,IF it happens that someone fires back,or is beating his SSD body,SM them to stop and not heal them

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.

Check their notes,If the queen had strict orders about larvas,apply a 3 hour ban along with a note about the charge,if he has previous notes,add a day 7 ban along with a Jban from Xeno under suicide as a larva

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.

Warn them about the Med Rp and not to use netspeak in the hivemind,add a note about the incident and apply a 3 hour ban and escalate from there if it continues to happen

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".

Tell the player its not a big issue to call it dropship since its a colective hivemind,fluffy terms are nice but optional

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.

Warn him about the issue,if he has previous notes,apply a day ban along with a note about the pre deployment meta,if he doesn't,apply a note and warn him not to mention "aliens/xenos" during the briefing

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.

If he has previous notes,apply a day ban and heal the dead marine,mention in the ban note that it is not ok to kill someone for those reasons and without the aproval of the other party

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.

Tell them about it in Mchat and move on

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.

Try to get a capture of the issue and get it to a head staff

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.

Ignore it,if its something to heavy or explicit,mute them from OOC and warn them,along with a note about staff disrecpect

Any additional information you'd like to add?
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by NethIafins » 23 Feb 2018, 15:14

1st - formatting. Please mark form items and your responses separately

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Sorry man, but no potato.
Read moderating guidelines, reread rules, and just check accepted moderator applications, it is not forbidden as long as you don't blatantly copy answers (also they may change)

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Post by MauroVega » 23 Feb 2018, 16:17

NethIafins wrote:
23 Feb 2018, 15:14
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Regarding 19,mercy killing/RP where a marine kills another one must be allowed and properly escalated by both parties
And thanks for the rest of the corrections
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Skysoldier » 23 Feb 2018, 19:25

Alright few things, the common ban system we use is 3 hrs - 1 day - 3 days - 7 days depending on severity, it's not that we have to follow it completely but it's a good system to use.

Your ban times are honestly completely erratic and random to what I see but it could be easily fixed. This also means some of your ban timers are completely misplaced in my opinion

From what you say however, you seem to have general lack of actually investigating through use of logs and other things, most of these cases could be a simple misunderstanding, or it could be properly escalated or loads of weird circumstances that could make this different.

On the other hand you do reference the notes and you seem to know what they are meant to be used for, generally fine, NethIafins has given you some feedback as well but here some extra.

You are a fine player in my opinion compared to most so theres a slight positive.

13. Noting 9 other players when generally they are mostly fine and roleplaying with it? You should leave that alone, if it is getting worse then just tell them to tone it down with no notes unless it is more extreme.

Everything else is kinda said and falls under what I've written.

I'll give you flat neutral rating for now.
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Post by Tharinoma » 23 Feb 2018, 19:32

How much time and effort did you put into this application? Feels like you just rushed it. Feels like you don't really care about being accepted as mod.
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Post by MauroVega » 23 Feb 2018, 19:59

Tharinoma wrote:
23 Feb 2018, 19:32
How much time and effort did you put into this application? Feels like you just rushed it. Feels like you don't really care about being accepted as mod.
I did put time in to it actually,they answers were mostly based on my previous experience,so outdated,yes
Like neth said,i'll have to re check on protocol and such
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Post by Adralimas » 23 Feb 2018, 21:10

I'll stay nuetral on this one for now. If this is denied feel free to contact me on discord if you have any questions at all about moderating!, Best of luck.
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Solarmare » 23 Feb 2018, 22:46

1 and 5 don't require an outright ban. Immediate permanent isn't needed if they have no notes on 14, better to just leave a week ban if they've logged off. 6 is an IC matter more or less. As far as 15 goes a warning should suffice if you found it to be suicide, if they did something like log off or have a previous note about it an immediate xeno ban is fine. Skysoldier noted the issue with 13. You need to revise 19 as well.

You've received feedback but haven't really responded to it in depth so I can't really tell whether you're taking it. I'll give this a -1 until you can provided a set of revised answers about the issues we've raised, taking criticism and improving from it is rather important and I haven't seen an in depth response from you making it difficult to judge whether you are doing so.
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Post by MauroVega » 23 Feb 2018, 23:04

NethIafins wrote:
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Post by Solarmare » 23 Feb 2018, 23:24

Not really seeing enough to think you've really taken the feedback, 19 and 1 can be left as IC issues, but you don't even mention investigating 19. 13 doesn't really require mass noting. I'll sit at a -1 for this application I think, you seem to understand the rules and knew of the announcements made earlier but some judgements are still off to me. If you need to mute them to prevent them from talking a ban might be more in order if they can't actually be trusted to continue in LOOC.
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Post by Grimcad » 24 Feb 2018, 09:19

Alright. I'm pretty on the fence here at the moment so I would like to give you a tough situation. The kind of situation that I'm sure you have handed to you on the first day with Trial Mod Luck. And I would like you answer about what you would do and how you would proceed to solve the situation. Please take your time and use ALL YOUR RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE TO ANSWER. Depending on how you answer I will have follow ups for you. If you have questions for me, don't put them here, but rather PM me personally on here or Discord.

You get three ahleps, one right after another.

1. [From Harry Truman] Hi yeah, sorry to bother you, I just shot George Washington, and accidently killed him. He was punching Franklin Roosevelt, the PO and took a few shots at him too, narrowly missing me. He was obviously trying to kill him. I'm dragging him to medbay now.

2. [From Abraham Lincoln] This pilot was being a jerk to me. I'm the other PO and this guy Franklin Roosevelt was drunk, telling me he was in command, that he was my superior and that I would have to answer to him. And do what all he says. And that's all BS. Making up all sorts of crap, that's against the rules. Then he wouldn't Fly down to DS2 and pick up wounded marines trying to evac. And then he just shot George Washington.

3 [From George Washington] Yo some crap just went down. Harry Truman just up and shot me with for no reason. They NEED to get punished. Franklin Roosevelt was refusing to go down and evac wounded marines, so I went to hit him, in disarm, shake him up you know. Then he punches me and I punch back. The other PO joins in cause Roosevelt was a jerk. So we are fighting then Roosevelt pulls out a gun and blasts me, 88 burst to the chest, which is messed up, he should get in trouble too. Then this Truman guy comes up, punches me, and then kills me with a point blank slug to the chest. That crap is messed up and you gotta do something about it now. You cant just shoot someone like that. Do something and then tell me what you did.

George Washington is also starting to complain in dead chat.... loudly.

Try to include as much info as you can in your answer, because I don't want this to really turn into a back and forth on the App. You can also PM me here or on Discord.

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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Nicboone » 24 Feb 2018, 11:18

werent you staff a while back?
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Post by MauroVega » 24 Feb 2018, 18:07

Grimcad wrote:
24 Feb 2018, 09:19
Alright. I'm pretty on the fence here at the moment so I would like to give you a tough situation. The kind of situation that I'm sure you have handed to you on the first day with Trial Mod Luck. And I would like you answer about what you would do and how you would proceed to solve the situation. Please take your time and use ALL YOUR RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE TO ANSWER. Depending on how you answer I will have follow ups for you. If you have questions for me, don't put them here, but rather PM me personally on here or Discord.

You get three ahleps, one right after another.

1. [From Harry Truman] Hi yeah, sorry to bother you, I just shot George Washington, and accidently killed him. He was punching Franklin Roosevelt, the PO and took a few shots at him too, narrowly missing me. He was obviously trying to kill him. I'm dragging him to medbay now.

2. [From Abraham Lincoln] This pilot was being a jerk to me. I'm the other PO and this guy Franklin Roosevelt was drunk, telling me he was in command, that he was my superior and that I would have to answer to him. And do what all he says. And that's all BS. Making up all sorts of crap, that's against the rules. Then he wouldn't Fly down to DS2 and pick up wounded marines trying to evac. And then he just shot George Washington.

3 [From George Washington] Yo some crap just went down. Harry Truman just up and shot me with for no reason. They NEED to get punished. Franklin Roosevelt was refusing to go down and evac wounded marines, so I went to hit him, in disarm, shake him up you know. Then he punches me and I punch back. The other PO joins in cause Roosevelt was a jerk. So we are fighting then Roosevelt pulls out a gun and blasts me, 88 burst to the chest, which is messed up, he should get in trouble too. Then this Truman guy comes up, punches me, and then kills me with a point blank slug to the chest. That crap is messed up and you gotta do something about it now. You cant just shoot someone like that. Do something and then tell me what you did.

George Washington is also starting to complain in dead chat.... loudly.

Try to include as much info as you can in your answer, because I don't want this to really turn into a back and forth on the App. You can also PM me here or on Discord.
For Harry,i would tell him for future scenarios like this to ahelp first, and try to get a hand on Mp's to resolve the situation instead of going in without info of what's going on and shotting people up, if he has previous notes about similar incidents of escalation/killing other marines apply a day-ban, if it's first offence, warn him verbally that in these situations its better to ahelp and let the staff and Mp's handle it, add a note for future problems about fights and escalation

For Abraham, tell him that next time something similar occurs, to try and get a hand on the Mp's/Aco and inform them of the situation, for possible charges of negletion of duty and being drunk on the job, also inform him that the situation is being handled currently, if the other PO was being too hostile/dick'ish he could also Ahelp for a warning on rule 1 since its not allowed to be a dick for no reason

For George, tell him to calm down in Dchat or he will be muted, check the logs to see if George hit Truman at any point, if he hit Truman with a bullet, don't heal him as firing back gives away the healing, while also checking if he fired at the PO first and ask him why, if he did that is, not mention hitting truman with a bullet, if he tries to dismiss or dodge the question, check the notes,if its first offence simply warn him verbally to tell him liying to staff is not ok an add a note about it for future cases, If he fired on the PO first and has previous notes, apply a day ban about liying to staff and escalation,if he has none, simply warn him about liying to staff and note it, check the notes of the PO Roosevelt, if he has previous notes of improper escalation/dick'ish behavior apply a day-ban along with a Jban from PO under Improper escalation as an officer, if its first offence, apply a 3 hours ban for the hostile and improper escalation and tell him to avoid future problems, adding a note about the incident for future preference, tell George the situation was handled accordingly and that
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Post by MauroVega » 24 Feb 2018, 18:08

Nicboone wrote:
24 Feb 2018, 11:18
werent you staff a while back?
Yeah i was, hence why the yes on previous staffing experience
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Gerald888 » 24 Feb 2018, 19:54

So I don't have really anything specific to say since everyone else seems to have touched on everything I was worried about. Except 16, Your answer makes me think you will be a bit ban happy. I'm neutral on this one.

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Post by MauroVega » 24 Feb 2018, 20:23

Gerald888 wrote:
24 Feb 2018, 19:54
So I don't have really anything specific to say since everyone else seems to have touched on everything I was worried about. Except 16, Your answer makes me think you will be a bit ban happy. I'm neutral on this one.
The server has a Med to high RP standard and the alien rules especify: Hivemind is the English translation of a Xeno's thoughts. However, keep it formal and realistic, but spouting memes constantly or disrupting others with them is not allowed and you will be banned
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Gerald888 » 26 Feb 2018, 09:28

From the CM CoC:5. Determine the bare minimum punishment
a.There's no reason to jump straight to a ban, especially if the incident didn't cause a major disruption to the game.

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Post by MauroVega » 26 Feb 2018, 12:07

Gerald888 wrote:
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From the CM CoC:5. Determine the bare minimum punishment
a.There's no reason to jump straight to a ban, especially if the incident didn't cause a major disruption to the game.
Well i said if it continues to happen,not on the first round they get warned about it, that would be too much
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Grimcad » 26 Feb 2018, 20:09

MauroVega wrote:
24 Feb 2018, 18:07
For Harry,i would tell him for future scenarios like this to ahelp first, and try to get a hand on Mp's to resolve the situation instead of going in without info of what's going on and shotting people up, if he has previous notes about similar incidents of escalation/killing other marines apply a day-ban, if it's first offence, warn him verbally that in these situations its better to ahelp and let the staff and Mp's handle it, add a note for future problems about fights and escalation

For Abraham, tell him that next time something similar occurs, to try and get a hand on the Mp's/Aco and inform them of the situation, for possible charges of negletion of duty and being drunk on the job, also inform him that the situation is being handled currently, if the other PO was being too hostile/dick'ish he could also Ahelp for a warning on rule 1 since its not allowed to be a dick for no reason

For George, tell him to calm down in Dchat or he will be muted, check the logs to see if George hit Truman at any point, if he hit Truman with a bullet, don't heal him as firing back gives away the healing, while also checking if he fired at the PO first and ask him why, if he did that is, not mention hitting truman with a bullet, if he tries to dismiss or dodge the question, check the notes,if its first offence simply warn him verbally to tell him liying to staff is not ok an add a note about it for future cases, If he fired on the PO first and has previous notes, apply a day ban about liying to staff and escalation,if he has none, simply warn him about liying to staff and note it, check the notes of the PO Roosevelt, if he has previous notes of improper escalation/dick'ish behavior apply a day-ban along with a Jban from PO under Improper escalation as an officer, if its first offence, apply a 3 hours ban for the hostile and improper escalation and tell him to avoid future problems, adding a note about the incident for future preference, tell George the situation was handled accordingly and that

Ok so lets go ahead and work through your answer in a bit of detail. It looks like you have a ok grasp of the situation, and what happened here but you didn't quite get the full picture. One of the things I would have like to seen you put a bit more emphasis on is your fact finding. This was a situation a quite a bit different than the app questions, in that you didnt know exactly what was going on. So your fist step should have been to PM everyone involved and get their sides of the story in full. The second step should have been to start log diving and find out exactly what happend for yourself. Remember we sort of go by the management adage of "trust, but verify." I would have then posted the information you would have found from that investigation. And then you should check the notes of everyone.

One of the things that you would have missed by not log diving is the severity of the beat down Franklin Roosevelt received, which is pretty key here. While George somewhat alluded to it and glossed it over, what happened is that George and Abraham beat Roosevelt into near critical condition. Also George never shot anyone. Sure he may have fired his weapon but no one was wounded by it.

With Lincoln the first part of his issue is an IC issue. Your buddy drunk and not wanting to work? Go to the MPs. Is he being a jerk and trying to tell you what to do? Your surperior officer. But the second part is an issue. Remember Lincoln just joined in and started attacking Roosevelt after he was attacked by Washington. While he might have a bit of reason to start laying into Roosevelt. He definitely did not have a great reason, and did it to excess to boot. Its ok to start a bit of a scuffle with another marine, but it is not ok to kill, or nearly kill him with your fists. This would be improper escalation.

Roosevelt would actually be in the clear here. While sure he did fire on a marine, those two marines were in the process of beating him to death. And he only fired once, albeit with a burst of AP to the chest. I would concider saving your own life proper escalation and so he actually gets a pass in this situation.

Truman should be the one you come down the hardest on, he had no place in that altercation, didnt understand exactly what was going in the first place, but still forced himself into it and fired upon and killed a marine. That is definitely improper escalation and should be handled accordingly.

George would be in the clear here too. He followed proper escelation. He started with disarm and only moved to harm after being harmed himself. He did a bit more that he probally inted to do, but that is only because Lincoln decided to jump in and administer his own "justice" as well. That being said he would still not be elligible to be ahealed out of a situation he started. Even if it did get unpredictably out of hand.

Not telling the players involved exactly what punishments you are handing out is a good move. A "it is being handled" is good enough to suffice.
As for muting George its ok if the people get angry and salt in Dchat. To an extent. A warning is a good thing to hand out if you feel that it is starting to get too bad. And muting him would be the right thing to do if it got that bad.

You show an ok understanding of the rules but I can't help but feel you rushed your answers. You even cut out in the middle of a sentance while typing. I'd be willing to give you a positive review. But I would also want you to know I would expect you to do a lot of independent research while a trial And that you would need to show some growth from where you are now. But thats kind of what the trial is for. So I'll give you a +1, but its a tentative one.

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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Kerek » 27 Feb 2018, 23:49

Personally, I think you’re a bit ban happy. Its good to not gove out too many warnings, but it does seem a bit excessive in my opinion. And you stray from the standard ban times quite a bit even though I believe its been the same. I’ll go ahead and just say neutral for now. I do recognize your character, though.
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Re: MauroVega's Moderator app

Post by Jerkface00 » 01 Mar 2018, 15:43

I'm pretty convinced that not much effort was put into this application. A number of the responses to the questions are outright wrong and don't follow the staff COC guidelines laid out. Responses to criticisms were an improvement, but not enough in my opinion to convince me that you have a solid grasp on what we would expect of you in terms of rule enforcement as a trial mod.

Thank you for your interest in helping out, however your application for trial mod is denied.
If you decide you'd like to try again in the future; I would suggest making sure to more carefully follow the COC guidelines. Consider the impact of the act in question, how you would investigate the matter in the best means you can think of to arrive at a clear and decisive stance, and how both the act in question and your response will effect the round before going through with your response.

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