Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

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Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by Redikalzip » 04 Mar 2018, 08:30

Your Byond Key: ReDikAl.ZiP

Your Character Name: Simon 'ATOM' Sanford.

Accused Byond Key(if known):
Spookydonut

Character Name: Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 4/03/2018 05:10 AM CST.

What rule(s) were broken: CMP rule: Improper escalation. Improper execution.

Description of the incident: So, I not want say what happened before CIC incident, but okay, let me start. That's strange situation in the CIC with WO (Hiedi) and his strange reaction on the pushing. WO was inside astronavigation center when I tried wield vents in the Astronav, WO pushed me out of astronav, after few seconds I eneble my HELP intent, but Red had HARM intent (You know what happend with Help-Harm intern = still pushing). After that he stanned me by stunbaton and put handcuffs on me.
Momentally I tried run away from that WO, because he did arrest me without reason. He thought that I was trying to block him inside the astronavigation, but first, I had no acces to Astronavigation (I was Delta Engineer), second I didn't want to do that. In addition, CL tried to help me, he defended me and tried to remove the handcuffs, but the WO stunned him and me after I tried to escape. Well, after that he charged the stun-slugs and started shooting at me and at the CL. Few times he slugged me and the CL too, after one of marines unhandcutted me and I'd grab my tactical shotgun for send one shell. I didn't want kill him, just calm him down. Sad, he stunned me, put handcutts on and charged 7 shells in my body. I died momentally.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): Nope.

How you would punish the accused: Oh, MP/CMP jobban...
Simon "ATOM" Sanford: "Use your brain and be a tactical man with your good aim for rifle"

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by Tharinoma » 04 Mar 2018, 09:24

Hello,

What was the official reason behind your execution?
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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by spookydonut » 04 Mar 2018, 09:37

At the time I said attempted murder which is wrong, and I also didn't give him a chance for last words.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 04 Mar 2018, 21:51

I was witness to a majority of what took place. I however did not witness the incident of the astronav. During my investigation Spooky Said that they believed that ReDikAl.ZiP was attempting to lock them into astro nav, How ever. I do believe the execution was do to the fact that ReDikAl.ZiP shot the CMP with a lethal weapon. the Marine law is Assault with a deadly weapon : to enact physical force against someone with a lethal weapon, such as a sidearm, blade, or rifle. Max punishment would normally be Perma. At the time I was the CO and I was Dead by this point. So It technically would be a unauthorized Execution, As well as they failed to give the prisoner their last words.

Also, After Spooky executed ReDikAl.ZiP another marine Shot Spooky to death. Due to my investigation into the rest of the incident i was unable to catch the name of the one who killed spooky. I asked about it in Msay and others said to just wait until the player report so That will also need to be looked into.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by spookydonut » 05 Mar 2018, 23:33

About 15-20 minutes before this ReDikAl.ZiP's character was brigged after coming up for surgery and IC complained about my character being a fault for him losing his mortar that was on the ground, so IC I had reason to believe that he might attempt some sort of revenge against me. At the time IC I believed he was trying to shut me out of CIC after the shuttle had crashed.
The benny hill style chase around CIC was perhaps not my greatest moment as an MP though. I switched from using stunbaton to beanbag rounds as the risk of tazing people setting up defences was too high with the tazer as opposed to the hitscan of the beanbags, there were only 3 people who attempted to interfere with the arrest, first an SL, then a PFC, then the CL. Apart from them there was I think one other person who got accidentally stunned, an SO I believe.

I executed for the stated IC reason of attempted murder, which is wrong as attempted murder should be assault with a deadly weapon which doesn't merit execution, and that a charge of murder requires approval of the aCO for execution. On reflection his actions possibly merited a charge of Terrorism which would have justified execution, but I did not state that IC at the time or follow the procedure of giving him his last words.

After that I was killed by a pilot.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by Redikalzip » 06 Mar 2018, 04:58

That's nothing about mortar, I was no angry about you arrested me when I /was/ operated. Thing, you arrested me first... was a radio. I had command radio plus MP channel, I tried ask about charlie SL, after you said turn off your MP channel. I did so. In the battle I tried find tac binos for mortar. After ravager did cut off my hand , I came to medbay for new arm. But, doctor didn't end operation and I lost alot of blood (you saw that), I think you arrested me on the half of operation.
In the IC I did shot you once for calm down your strange arrest. But you just "BE"d me. And I repeat, I had nothing bad with your first arrest, doctor didnt end operation.
Thats all.

So, you said... revenge? *sigh* man, I'm not that dude who wants kill CMP for uncomfortable arrest in the surgery. I'm not griefer.
Simon "ATOM" Sanford: "Use your brain and be a tactical man with your good aim for rifle"

I love my "SADAR".
I love my M56B without BC.
I love M41A with QF.


Be happy. Be marine.

Atole Bhu'ja
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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by freemysoul » 06 Mar 2018, 05:37

I'll be investigating this soon.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by slc97 » 06 Mar 2018, 13:50

This looks like it's essentially resolved. Redikal claims the execution was a fuck up, and Spooky has come in and admitted that the execution was a fuck up.

As for punishment, Spooky has no prior history of anything like this and is in here saying "Hey, sorry I fucked this up, guys." And personally I know Spooky would never maliciously ruin someone's round. I'd say this doesn't need to go past a warning.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by Redikalzip » 06 Mar 2018, 18:19

First time I did not want make that report, because I know Spooky and his playstyle. He's just good dude.
About punishment, maybe just little warning, I'm not want jbanned him as CMP, maybe.
Simon "ATOM" Sanford: "Use your brain and be a tactical man with your good aim for rifle"

I love my "SADAR".
I love my M56B without BC.
I love M41A with QF.


Be happy. Be marine.

Atole Bhu'ja
Son'ka Atoj'e

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by slc97 » 06 Mar 2018, 18:40

Well there ya go, you're happy and Spook's happy. All taken care of then.

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Re: Player Report - Hiedi 'Red' Gomez

Post by Emeraldblood » 06 Mar 2018, 22:04

We'll talk to Spooky about the matter, though other than that, the appeal has mostly resolved itself. Glad you two lovers could work it out together.
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